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With or Without God: Discussion Point - WWG's Four Themes

We have discussed With or Without God by Gretta Vosper at some length here on wondercafe. Right now, I am working on a summary of the discussion, which I intend to post as a blog on the cafe and submit to my church newsletter in RL.

I hope to get it finished this weekend. My next project will be co-hosting a Readers' Group with Arminius. We plan a series of threads about Bruce Sanguin's latest book Emerging Church.

Here are the four themes I am working with:

1. The bible is not TAWOGFAT (or, the problems with orthodoxy)

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With or Without God: Discussion Points - The Disconnect

With or Without God, by Gretta Vosper, has recently been discussed at length on Wondercafe. It was my pleasure to host a series of threads about it, and WWG has been the subject of several other conversations.

I propose to start a second series of threads now.

Chapter 1 of WWG opens with the premise that the Christian church, as we have built and known it, has outlived its viability. Vosper suggests that the church has lost its relevance for many, and emphasizes that it can no longer be "business as usual" for many thinking Christians.

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The Emerging Church by Bruce Sanguin: Do you plan to read it?

Bruce Sanguin has recently launched his new book, The Emerging Church: A Model for Change and a Map for Renewal.

Do you plan to read it? Would you like to join a wondercafe readers' group to discuss it?

Arminius and I propose to co-host a readers' group, which will get started after the Labour Day weekend in September. This will give us all the opportunity to add it to our summer reading lists.

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What Are You Reading?

With summer fast approaching, and school now over for the year, I finally have a bit of time to read for enjoyment.

I just started reading Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth". I know I'm a bit behind...I've been wanting to read it for awhile, but just haven't been able to find the time until now.

What are you reading? Or what's on your reading list for the summer?

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With or Without God: Readers' Group Toolbox (Appendix)

Over the last several weeks, the WWG Readers' Group has discussed Chapters 1 "“ 7 of Gretta Vosper's recently published book, With or Without God. Gretta has popped in a few times, and added her perspective, joining our discussion about chapters 1 and 7.

As with previous threads, I will summarize a section at a time, and invite your comments. The following is a summary of pages 318 "“ 320:

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With or Without God: Readers' Group Chapter 7: Crucial Change

Let's take a look at the final chapter of "With or Without God", by Gretta Vosper. Rather than approaching it section by section, I offer a summary of the entire chapter, with a focus on the new material she presents.

Pages 283 "“ 317 are summarized as follows:

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With or Without God: Readers' Group Chapter 6: Responsible Change

Chapter 6 opens with a description of Fowler's 6 Stages of Faith. The following is a summary of pages 260 "“ 276:

Stage 1: Intuitive "“ Projective: Between the ages of 3 and 7, children are unable to distinguish between reality and imagination, and easily succumb to cultural and religious behaviours and taboos. They readily assimilate fantasy and religious belief.

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gretta vosper's book "with or without god"

Just getting into Gretta's book and it's like a complete breath of fresh air to me. I actually have found someone who validates all the reasons why I simply cannot be a member of the United Church - or any other church for that matter. She talks about the elephant in the room that everyone talks around and studiously ignores - is it one elephant or, really, a whole herd of them?

I hope a lot of people get hold of this book and have a serious think about the contents.

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With or Without God: Readers' Group Chapter 5: Reconstructing Christianity

Welcome to the Wondercafe Readers' Group! We are exploring Gretta Vosper's recently published book, With or Without God. We have taken a look at Spong's Foreword and Chapters 1 "“ 4. A section at a time is summarized, and comments about Gretta's ideas are welcomed.

Let's get this thread started with pages 216 "“ 230.

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With or Without God: Readers' Group Chapter 4: Liberating Christianity

Welcome to the Wondercafe Readers' Group. We are studying Gretta Vosper's recent book: With or Without God. On the chapter 1 thread, we even had visit from the author!

As we move through Chapter 4, I will summarize a section at a time. Anyone who has read the book is welcome to critique my summaries, and all are invited to comment. Let's start with pages 150 - 155.

As the chapter opens, we are introduced to the work of Albert Schweitzer.

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