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WC: Request for nominations

Now is the time to provide nomininations for moderator, admin and treasurer roles per the council model of WonderCafe2

Nomination Process

To form Council, the community is asked for nominations.  After a suitable nomination period of not less than 5 days, the nominations are closed and Council selects new members from the nominations. For purposes of the initial Council, the three founding administrators shall perform the selection.

http://www.wondercafe.ca/blogs/wondercafe2adm/wondercafe2-council-revise....

 

Roles can be claified via these links:

Moderator(s): http://www.wondercafe.ca/blogs/wondercafe2adm/moderator

Admin(s): http://www.wondercafe.ca/blogs/wondercafe2adm/administrator

Treasurer: http://www.wondercafe.ca/blogs/wondercafe2adm/treasurer

 

Nominations will be open until May 24th end of day.

 

Please perform due diligence .  

  • review the role requirements as documented above
  • consider is now the right time for this person to be on council
  • confirm with the person they are willing to stand for nomination

 

Please submit your nomination, the role and your reasons for nomination privately via a wondermail to this account (wondercafe2adm).  

 

If you would like to publicly name whom you have nominated, post their account name and the role below.  

 

This thread is NOT a place for dialogue on the suitability of someone.  

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Admins are listed as available for nomination both as confirmation of their role, as well as a recognition that you may wish to nominate one or more of the current admins for a different role. 

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What's spoken of here is the procedure for nominating others. Is the procedure for nominating oneself the same?

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One should be nominated; thereby ensuring that you have the support of at least one other.

 

What you are referring to is volunteering.  If you would like to volunteer for a role, then, I recommend you place your name on ChemGal's thread.

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Pinga wrote:

One should be nominated; thereby ensuring that you have the support of at least one other.

 

What you are referring to is volunteering.  If you would like to volunteer for a role, then, I recommend you place your name on ChemGal's thread.

Thank you for the reply Pinga. I wasn't asking for myself. At this time I'm not interested in any Council role. Rich blessings.

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no problem, DC

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bump

plus, no idea why i referred to Jae as DC...unless i was too tired to type the "n". sorry jae

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Pinga wrote:

bump

plus, no idea why i referred to Jae as DC...unless i was too tired to type the "n". sorry jae

No problem. My guess was that it was a reflection of the days when I used to be MC Jae.

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I nominate Mendalla, chansen and Pinga as admins.

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Hilary wrote:

I nominate Mendalla, chansen and Pinga as admins.

Ooh, risky move there Hilary

:D

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livin' on the edge!

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I'll second that Hilary

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This should shake things up a bit then... Rather than nominating Mendalla, chansen, and Pinga...

I hereby nominate Pinga, chansen, and Mendalla as admins.

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In all seriousness, we can't do it all. Well, we could, but I don't think that's right. I'm not interested in being a moderator. The only thing I plan to remove is spam and banned members reappearing. I'm too controversial around here to act as a mod, and I know that. I'm going to avoid modifying posts as much as humanly possible.

 

So, consider who you think here is fair and around quite often, and has the respect of many, if not most members. Talk to them. Then get back to us.

 

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Chansen, they nominated us as admins.  Theoretically should have asked first; however, given we are already stepped into the role, probably ok.

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chansen wrote:

In all seriousness, we can't do it all. Well, we could, but I don't think that's right. I'm not interested in being a moderator. The only thing I plan to remove is spam and banned members reappearing. I'm too controversial around here to act as a mod, and I know that. I'm going to avoid modifying posts as much as humanly possible.

 

So, consider who you think here is fair and around quite often, and has the respect of many, if not most members. Talk to them. Then get back to us.

 

So the Admins will, at least in part, be operating as Mods? I don't remember that as a part of the job description. Will the Treasurer also be acting, at least in part, as an Admin or Mod? Will the Mods take on functions of the other roles? These kinds of things are important for us to know as we consider who to nominate.

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There are certain functions which are only available to the admins. In a situation where no moderator is available and to deal with spam type accounts, an admin may be required to take action.

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Dcn. Jae wrote:
chansen wrote:

In all seriousness, we can't do it all. Well, we could, but I don't think that's right. I'm not interested in being a moderator. The only thing I plan to remove is spam and banned members reappearing. I'm too controversial around here to act as a mod, and I know that. I'm going to avoid modifying posts as much as humanly possible.

 

So, consider who you think here is fair and around quite often, and has the respect of many, if not most members. Talk to them. Then get back to us.

 

So the Admins will, at least in part, be operating as Mods? I don't remember that as a part of the job description. Will the Treasurer also be acting, at least in part, as an Admin or Mod? Will the Mods take on functions of the other roles? These kinds of things are important for us to know as we consider who to nominate.

No it isn't, you're just being obtuse. As an admin, yes, I'd have the same abilities as a mod, plus the keys to the site itself. Big deal. If something Very Wrong was posted on the forum, yes, I'd launch it into the sun. But it's not my job to go around solving personal spats, and all I'm saying is that me wading in on disagreements would not be smart in the first place.

 

That, and I was reading into it that Hilary was nominating us for mods, when she actually wrote "admins". Still, we need to be discussing more people than Pinga, Mendalla, and myself.

 

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chansen wrote:

In all seriousness, we can't do it all. Well, we could, but I don't think that's right. I'm not interested in being a moderator. The only thing I plan to remove is spam and banned members reappearing. I'm too controversial around here to act as a mod, and I know that. I'm going to avoid modifying posts as much as humanly possible.

 

So, consider who you think here is fair and around quite often, and has the respect of many, if not most members. Talk to them. Then get back to us.

 

 

It actually more than that. If our admins do their job they will try to achieve consensus on how the board is run, and failing that they should admin in regards to what the greatest numbers would support.  It is only when the board does not not have a clear majority would the admin actually be called on to decided.  For example, if I was a mod and deciding, I would not allow certain behaviour and allow others.   Best practice would require that I disregard my beliefs if there was a clear demand from the membrs for something different.  

 

So IMHO the first requirement for mods and admin, is the time and committement needed, and the ability (health, and freedom from other destractions) .

 

Second is the ability to listen and agreeing to strive for a consensus, or something close to it. (as consensus is usually unachievable.) 

 

You seem to have the time,(first and most important, as at the begining we will need mods and admin to spend the time to articulate their decisions, )  and the ability to listen to others, so I would say you are very qualified. You are also able to seperate what you like, and what 

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For the record, It was quite clearly stated in the position description for the admin that admins' privileges are "All mod privileges plus..." and then listed the additional abilities. So it was very clear from the get go that we would have both mod and admin powers.

 

Mendalla

 

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I have a wondermail out asking for permission to nominate someone.

(admins-just take it as a sign of respect that you were nominated)

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Sorry, I goofed. I was thinking Hilary was nominating us for mods.

 

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you're a goof, chansen.

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Flagged.

 

See you in hell, Hilary.

 

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can't wait for the chansen DLC

 

(voiced by Steve Martin?)

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I know that you've explained it before - many times.  But I'm still not sure of the process for nominating.

 

Suppose for instance that I think that Johnny would be an excellent choice for moderator.  I've checked and she's been a member for two years and, after a six month layoff, she's been posting semi-regularly for the last six months.   What do I do now?   

 

Also, except for a very few, I that I might guess at (mainly the three who have been doing most of the work so far) I have no idea what various people's skills are or whether they would be interested.  Is there a thread where people can offer to take on a position and I could go from there.

 

A few years ago I would have been willing, and with a bit of a learning curve probably capable, of taking on one of the non-tech positions.  I am no longer able.

 

Best of luck.  

 

 

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If you have a sense someone would be a good moderator, or treasurer, or admin, you would send them a wondermail (or if you know them via facebook or email, reach them that way).

 

Ask them if they want to do it.

 

If they say, yes, they would be interested, then send their name in to wondercafe2adm

 

Admins will review eligibility.  For example, you may not know if they are banned, nor should you need to.

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HOwevr one may just propose someone. So far Pinga Chansen and Mendale have been nominated for admin by a couple of people. None have accepted. CHansen states that he is reluctant (trans: he needs encouragement) Pinga and Mendala have yet to indicate if they accept (trans: they either are waiting for more encouragement, or they are unwilling to go first.smiley

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seeler wrote:

Also, except for a very few, I that I might guess at (mainly the three who have been doing most of the work so far) I have no idea what various people's skills are or whether they would be interested.

 

This.

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Tabitha wrote:

I have a wondermail out asking for permission to nominate someone.

 

Tabitha, awesome that you are doing this.

i do appreciate people pondering and doing part of the diligence.

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Pinga wrote:

Tabitha wrote:

I have a wondermail out asking for permission to nominate someone.

 

Tabitha, awesome that you are doing this.

i do appreciate people pondering and doing part of the diligence.

I also have such an email out, but thus far the people who have responded have answered, thanks but no thanks.

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Dcn. Jae wrote:
chansen wrote:

In all seriousness, we can't do it all. Well, we could, but I don't think that's right. I'm not interested in being a moderator. The only thing I plan to remove is spam and banned members reappearing. I'm too controversial around here to act as a mod, and I know that. I'm going to avoid modifying posts as much as humanly possible.

 

So, consider who you think here is fair and around quite often, and has the respect of many, if not most members. Talk to them. Then get back to us.

 

So the Admins will, at least in part, be operating as Mods? I don't remember that as a part of the job description. Will the Treasurer also be acting, at least in part, as an Admin or Mod? Will the Mods take on functions of the other roles? These kinds of things are important for us to know as we consider who to nominate.

Since that's the case, it changes everything. I hereby rescind the nomination that I originally made, and will instead nominate chansen, Mendalla, and Pinga to the role of Admin.

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sent & continuing to send feelers out (at least one of them Dcn. Jae & i share in common probably), waiting for all replies before sending admin  email

 

 

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I am not entirely sure who is nominating me at this point (was Hilary first?) but I accept. My secret agenda to convert you all to the worship of the Great Old Ones must contin...huh?...I'm not supposed to talk publicly about that? Oops. As I was saying, my mission to promote greater dialogue and harmony among all people of faith must continue. Yeah. That's what I really meant

 

Mendalla

 

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Can i nominate you for the comedy show?

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The gong show!!!! lol

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Pinga wrote:

Can i nominate you for the comedy show?

 

Depends which one. Have they replaced Craig Ferguson yet?

 

Mendalla

 

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Sent out 3 invitations. One replied so far that has been approached and said "yes".

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Bump.

Today's the final day this time round for nominations to come in. Thus far we have various combinations of chansen, Pinga, and Mendalla for Admins.

No one has been nominated yet for the roles of Mods and Treasurer.

Get your nominations in, folks. Hurry, hurry, hurry.

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Dcn. Jae wrote:
Bump. Today's the final day this time round for nominations to come in. Thus far we have various combinations of chansen, Pinga, and Mendalla for Admins. No one has been nominated yet for the roles of Mods and Treasurer. Get your nominations in, folks. Hurry, hurry, hurry.

 

Actually, we have noms for mods but they came in as private messages as Pinga requested in the OP. She's been monitoring it so I don't know how many we have at this point without checking. However, I'm not sure we have a treasurer nominated as of yet. Again, Pinga can say more since she's monitoring the admin Wondermail.

 

Mendalla

 

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Mendalla wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:
Bump. Today's the final day this time round for nominations to come in. Thus far we have various combinations of chansen, Pinga, and Mendalla for Admins. No one has been nominated yet for the roles of Mods and Treasurer. Get your nominations in, folks. Hurry, hurry, hurry.

 

Actually, we have noms for mods but they came in as private messages as Pinga requested in the OP. She's been monitoring it so I don't know how many we have at this point without checking. However, I'm not sure we have a treasurer nominated as of yet. Again, Pinga can say more since she's monitoring the admin Wondermail.

 

Mendalla

 

That's good to hear Mendalla. I truly hope that no one nominated me because, really, I must insist, I'm not interested in being on the Council at this time.

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giggle

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Dcn. Jae wrote:
Mendalla wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:
Bump. Today's the final day this time round for nominations to come in. Thus far we have various combinations of chansen, Pinga, and Mendalla for Admins. No one has been nominated yet for the roles of Mods and Treasurer. Get your nominations in, folks. Hurry, hurry, hurry.

 

Actually, we have noms for mods but they came in as private messages as Pinga requested in the OP. She's been monitoring it so I don't know how many we have at this point without checking. However, I'm not sure we have a treasurer nominated as of yet. Again, Pinga can say more since she's monitoring the admin Wondermail.

 

Mendalla

 

That's good to hear Mendalla. I truly hope that no one nominated me because, really, I must insist, I'm not interested in being on the Council at this time.

 

You would know if they were. They are supposed to be asking your permission first.

 

Mendalla

 

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Mendalla wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:
Mendalla wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:
Bump. Today's the final day this time round for nominations to come in. Thus far we have various combinations of chansen, Pinga, and Mendalla for Admins. No one has been nominated yet for the roles of Mods and Treasurer. Get your nominations in, folks. Hurry, hurry, hurry.

 

Actually, we have noms for mods but they came in as private messages as Pinga requested in the OP. She's been monitoring it so I don't know how many we have at this point without checking. However, I'm not sure we have a treasurer nominated as of yet. Again, Pinga can say more since she's monitoring the admin Wondermail.

 

Mendalla

 

That's good to hear Mendalla. I truly hope that no one nominated me because, really, I must insist, I'm not interested in being on the Council at this time.

 

You would know if they were. They are supposed to be asking your permission first.

 

Mendalla

 

No one has contacted me, so people are not abiding by the rules. At any rate, my day is rapidly drawing to a close. The time for me to sleep is quickly arriving. I look forward to reading the proposed slate of candidates in the near future. However, again, for me, let me say it just one more time, not really interested in being on the Council right now.

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Dcn. Jae][quote=Mendalla wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:
Mendalla wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:
Bump. Today's the final day this time round for nominations to come in. Thus far we have various combinations of chansen, Pinga, and Mendalla for Admins. No one has been nominated yet for the roles of Mods and Treasurer. Get your nominations in, folks. Hurry, hurry, hurry.

 

Actually, we have noms for mods but they came in as private messages as Pinga requested in the OP. She's been monitoring it so I don't know how many we have at this point without checking. However, I'm not sure we have a treasurer nominated as of yet. Again, Pinga can say more since she's monitoring the admin Wondermail.

 

Mendalla

 

That's good to hear Mendalla. I truly hope that no one nominated me because, really, I must insist, I'm not interested in being on the Council at this time.

 

You would know if they were. They are supposed to be asking your permission first.

 

Mendalla

 

No one has contacted me, so people are not abiding by the rules. At any rate, my day is rapidly drawing to a close. The time for me to sleep is quickly arriving. I look forward to reading the proposed slate of candidates in the near future. However, again, for me, let me say it just one more time, not really interested in being on the Council right now.[/quot]

 

Jae, I am not sure why you insist making this thread about you; however, if no one has contacted you, it would imply no one has nominated you or that they have not followed recommendations of contacting the person they are nominating.

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I think Jae's just joking. "The time for me to sleep is quickly arriving" was a clue. Like, he's waiting on pins and needles.

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I have sent a wondermail to Wondercafe2 Admin. I hope someone picked it up.

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Yes, Crazyheart, thanks.  It was picked up.  

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Just curious to know - have you received sufficient nominees?  Not asking for numbers or names, but wondering - is there any category we should focus our attention at the moment?   I did notice upthread a comment re treasurer nominees being sought - progress on that front? 

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I think we are all out & about this weekend, so I wouldnt' anticipate any closure / decisions until early next week; however, quick thoughts are below.

 

1.  Yes, there are sufficient nominations for moderator.  We just need to select to ensure mix is appropriate and then plan for training.

 

2. Treasurer.  No one has sent a wondermail in regarding a confirmation of a treasurer.  Not a huge deal, if not done at cutover but would be nice.

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