*shakes head sadly*

I don't think anyone has ever proposed that people's heads be cut off for preaching anything, at least in 21st century North America. In fact, there are far more gay people at risk of execution in various countries and regions for trying to be who they are than there are gay opponents at any kind of risk beyond looking like idiots. And looking like an idiot is something you bring on yourself.

IOW, Nothing like a little fearmongering exaggeration to help you case.

Mendalla

All too righteous people living in glass houses is what god is more than likely going to say to them.

now THAT'S a hard-core gamer

its a shame when they go over the bend

like this guy (watch his amazing witnessing powers)

what happens when one of these is finally forced to realize it is a game?

It all fits as eLLe, or eL as source of light and the gay people in their state of anon sense perhaps see what the overly critical of god's children can't. Those that can't see that a universal emotions avoids local excess and rich and powerful glommers of physical treasures. Ever-Isis ... or just avarice?

I was once told I was crazy for my thoughts by a fundamentalist minister (now deceased). He said I was going to eLLe as opposing his laws about shunning portions of God's scatterings. This goes contrary to Matthew 5:22  ... now I ask who is in danger of eLLe fire and who eternal darkness? Do excessive emotions darken the surroundings? One should get over the darkening with a little Levite ... it too a wee thing like the electron-photon paris ... parse, pairs? Even ancient grandmothers were happy to see stains in the bridal bed ... bloody awful some would say ... evil sects!

One should know their LOGOS or dew-ord-ina-antes ... thus the past tense conception ... as afore said! Such is mere word plae messing with the soul ... but if yah got to ask about de soma sole ... yah musta missed IT! In a regathering of wisdom one that missed ID has to go back ... and thus the eternal cycle ... cause gods' children arn't that bright ... often quite stained by bloodshed ... and things their mother said about the breaching of wholly spots ...

Like other things ... they'll get ova ID ... the first thing to go when common sense alights ... than you lose that too as gods' children didn't really wish to know. Is n't that a devil of a thing to say and know it ... sort of like Classic Understanding of ancient's crewing ... some say crowing at the diminishing of the Shadows ... and Don falls like a hole in existence ... an eternal blip?

I've never heard of anyone 'having their head chopped off' or being persecuted in any way for preaching against homosexuals.  On the other hand this type of preaching has triggered much discrimination, hatred, attacks, and death for many homosexuals around the world, and even in Canada people in the GLBTQ community do not feel safe.  And to show this hatred towards them and then call it 'love' is sickening.  

Thus God puked and it reined upon us as descendant thought ... authorities worship ascention like anon-stink in the PEW! Silence ... not even a squeek'Eire ....

Such is regurgitation as fixed wisdom so the tough points won't have to learn ... they can't essense 'oully as they are hard and frigid! Thus the example of going too far in the cycle of life ... in church we call this polity ... look it up as metaphorical extremism!

Could such a thing happen in church with haute heds? The ancient peoples called eM Sarz or Tzars, an offshoot of Caesar's burning desire to control the whole thing. This is avarice of the finest form as  expressed in Cleo Patros desire to own her own actions ... but this may be purely allegorical to amuse the wee people ... like you and me Seeler! Some times the humour seems elusive until you see the only way out ... a glimmer at the end of a hard place ... that's life ... when properly ogre doubt that's wisdom that's beyond us (in myth)!

Franklin Graham has a habit of preaching intolerance and hell-fire.  Think his father, Billy, was a bit more tolerant.

Franklin and others like him are guilty of selective reading of the Bible.

Pastors ought to be willing to face persecution for preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God with people; and that's with all people, be they gay, straight, asexual, and/or anything else.

It's too bad this is the "preaching" that the press loves to report and sensationalize.

Mr. Graham is concerned that one day he will have to stand before God and give account for how he spent his life. I humbly suggest that he practice-up now. He will need to defend making himself wealthy by using poor children around the world - sending them shoe boxes full of holiday trinkets in the name of God.

In the light of the recent discussion about legalism vs grace, it's interesting that Franklin Graham speaks of the need to preach "God's law." First, we're not under law but under grace. Hard to see much grace in Franklin Graham on a number of issues. Second, one has to ask which "law" he's referring to. The law of Moses? The law as summed up and lived out by Jesus? The law written on our hearts as spoken of by Paul? Or the law Franklin Graham has decided upon? 

Franklin Graham, in my opinion, has taken Billy Graham's ministry in an unfortunate direction that I'm not sure Billy would approve of if he were well enough to intervene.

I am guessing he is making reference to end times prophesy.
Rev 20:4

I neither cared for the father or the son in the Graham family.

WaterBuoy, you do use descriptive language "Thus God puked"

I guess that says it al.

I really like to read a thread like this . Watching those who Claim to be Christain . Call down another Christain. Can any of you so called Christains show me any were in GOD word were it's ok to be GAY? Who is in the right here ? Who is trying to help and who is not to?If GOD said yes good enough . If He said NO. You mite want to know that. As The GOD I follow don't much like you to cross Him. I'v lisoned to Bills dad for some years now . Could not say I found anything wrong with what he was preaching. I believe his son is a stand up guy who says what he believes. airclean33

What's your biblical support for saying that being GAY is not ok?

Hi DcnJae-- Please note I ask you first show me scipture were GOD oked it.

I do not know of any.

Okay, your turn.

Sorry to interject here Airclean, but where in the Bible does it say that it's ok to be a thespian or a Baptist or a union worker?

Hi Rev. Steven Davis     your quote      First, we're not under law but under grace

People who have accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior are Under Grace ------People who have not accepted Christ are still under the Law -----Just want to clarify that ------Not all people are under Grace ------according to this scripture ---- there is a long list of people who are still under the law ----- 

Can you show me anywhere in God's word that says its ok to be stupid?  

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Yes, those verses certainly sound like they're against being gay. Now, let's consider the context of the passage they're contained in. The passage is speaking of people who deviated from their natural inclinations to engaging in same-sex practices together. Why? As a result of engaging in idolatry. These were not gay people, at least certainly not gay people as we think of gay people today. Rather, it seems they were straight people who changed their ways as a result of worshipping the wrong god(s).

"In Romans 1: 18-32 Paul treats same-sex intercourse as a prime example of the impurity characteristic of Gentiles. He regards it as unclean and dishonourable and as a punishment visited on the Gentiles for their failure to worship the one true God. He does not specifically say that it is sinful." - Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible.

:D

This is interesting on Romans 1--26-28  ---different interpretations of this ---you decide ---

mmm, delicious-looking finger!

it must be sucked!

seeler    your quote    Can you show me anywhere in God's word that says its ok to be stupid?  

I leave you with God's word on name calling ----you say you belong to Christ ---this is straight from Jesus ----

Jesus Talks about Anger ---

Matthew 5:22

GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

²² But I can guarantee that whoever is angry with another believer^[a]will answer for it in court. Whoever calls another believer an insulting name will answer for it in the highest court. Whoever calls another believer a fool will answer for it in hellfire.

unsafe,

is there anything in the Bibble that says what happens when a christian makes of themselves a fool?

Hi InannaWhimsey    your quote       is there anything in the Bibble that says what happens when a christian makes of themselves a fool?

Sorry can't help you there ---you'll have to ask God for the answer to that -----

Peace

Hi unsafe -- your vid is interesting . But the Gentleman seem to be all over the  place. It could mean this" it could mean that".? Perhaps he should read other parts of GODS word. God Bless---airclean33

unsafe - are you accusing me of name-calling?  I didn't call anybody names.  

airclean asked to be shown in the Bible where God says it is ok to be homosexual.  I counter by asking him to show me in the Bible where God says its ok to be stupid.  The point is that there are many things that God didn't bother to tell us that its ok or not.  God didn't say that its ok to be left-handed.  God didn't say its ok to be red-headed.  God didn't say its ok to be short - or tall.  God didn't say its ok about a lot of things.  

Just because God didn't specifically say something is ok doesn't mean that its not ok.  

seeler      your quote      airclean asked to be shown in the Bible where God says it is ok to be homosexual.  I counter by asking him to show me in the Bible where God says its ok to be stupid

I apologize for the misunderstanding ---my bad -----

Peace

Who wrote the bible?

Is the bible true?

Is today the same as yeserday?

What did God say about love?

your g_d is always testing you :3

God punished Adam and Eve for eating from the Tree of Knowledge.

Matt 5:22?

DRINK!!!

Hi airclean33

 this is Forerunner Commentary on Romans 1v 24-28  ---

Romans 1:24-27

What are the results of rejecting God?

 

1. Uncleanness, meaning moral impurity;

 

2. Longing or desiring, especially what is forbidden;

 

3. Disgracing each other by mutual consent, meaning unlawful and impure connections with one another. Verse 24 contemplates not just a perversion of sex—homosexuality—but any use of it outside of God's law, such as fornication.

Paul describes more of what rejecting God leads to:

 

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (verses 26-27)

Should we be shocked at the explosion of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) in today's world? God tells those that reject Him that such diseases are fitting penalties for the wrong use of sex. Mankind has tried to "advance beyond consequences" in this area by advocating "safe-sex" through the use of contraceptives. However, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services recently admitted that condoms do not prevent the transmission of most STDs. Mankind cannot outsmart God!

These are my thoughts on this ------God is not a respector of persons ----He is a respector of His word

The thing is if you are not born again then all sinners go to Hell ---not for sinning but for rejecting Jesus who can payed the price for our sins -----they will have to give an account for their sins ----these people are still under the law ----All sin has consequenses --as you see above ---diseases etc---

If the person accepts Jesus then they are under Grace and the person's sins are remembered no more-- it matters not what the person did ---so the gay person who accepts Christ is going to heaven --now the thing here is ---Those who have Christ they will not want to go and sin ---The Holy Spirit convicts when sin happens in a born again person -----it will not feel OK with them inside their own selves -----

God Bless Brother

The only thing worse than such a doctrine Unsafe, is when it's presented with such a pious and self serving attitude. Forgive them Father, for they know not what they say..

Got a citation for that one, ac? Claiming that a government agency said something requires proof. News story (from a reputable paper), official press release, or something other than "I said so".

Mendalla

HI Neo    your quote    Forgive them Father, for they know not what they say..---you have it wrong ---it is for what they do not say ------

Actually Neo it is the Father and Son  that does say this -------this is just one such scripture ---there are many more I can quote to you ---This is what I believe --it is not what you believe -----You have your own God and belief -----I was quoting to my Brother in Christ airclean not to your religion ----  

The US Food and Drug Administration says that "it's important to use condoms to help prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases." A 2006 study by the University of Washington found that condoms are very effective in preventing the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. The New York State Department of Health recommends the use of condoms to help prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. I'm on a tablet and can't easily post the links. But I, too, would like to see unsafe's source for the claim that the US H&HS Services Department says they're not effective.

Sorry, unsafe, scripture is useless here, like it usually is. Where did the "U.S. Department of Health and Human Services" admit that "condoms do not prevent the transmission of most STDs?"

Or are you bearing false witness, which is just a fancy way of saying you're lying?

Oh, forget it. You'll never admit you're lying. Let's just go to the source, shall we?

http://www.hhs.gov/opa/reproductive-health/contraception/male-condom/

Well, that's only...say...ALL of the condoms available in drug stores.

Liar.

Romans 2:1

What about sheepskin.

Huh? In what way do you believe this verse necessarily pertains to homosexuality?

I think it has to do with people's hypocrisy in judging others.

In other news; church patriarchs in the Balkans and others are blaming the floods on Conchita Wurst; the trans who won the Eurovision ( European "Idol"/ World Cup of singing) contest. Now, the fact that people are more apt to pay attention to pop singing contests on TV and treat the news as entertainment, rather than working together to resolve serious issues in the world is noteworthy...but blaming it on Conchita is ridiculous.

As for you quoting to Airclean, your "Brother in Christ", and not to me, well this is a "discussion forum". You may want to resort to private messaging if you want no one else to comment.

Rev.Steven Davis and Mendalla   your quote    sayng I wrote  

However, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services recently admitted that condoms do not prevent the transmission of most STDs. Mankind cannot outsmart God!

Sorry your way off base I DID NOT write this ---better check above ------nowhere DO i PERSONALLY SAY anything about the Goverment ---it is forerunner commentary on scripture -----not my words ---Period --if you have a problem with what the commentary says --you will have to adress it with them -

this is Forerunner Commentary on Romans 1v 24-28  ---

What are the results of rejecting God?

 

1. Uncleanness, meaning moral impurity;

 

2. Longing or desiring, especially what is forbidden;

 

3. Disgracing each other by mutual consent, meaning unlawful and impure connections with one another. Verse 24 contemplates not just a perversion of sex—homosexuality—but any use of it outside of God's law, such as fornication.

Paul describes more of what rejecting God leads to:

 

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (verses 26-27)

Should we be shocked at the explosion of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) in today's world? God tells those that reject Him that such diseases are fitting penalties for the wrong use of sex. Mankind has tried to "advance beyond consequences" in this area by advocating "safe-sex" through the use of contraceptives. However, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services recently admitted that condoms do not prevent the transmission of most STDs. Mankind cannot outsmart God!

Just to clarify   ------

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these are ny words -----to airclean33

These are my thoughts on this ------God is not a respector of persons ----He is a respector of His word

The thing is if you are not born again then all sinners go to Hell ---not for sinning but for rejecting Jesus who can payed the price for our sins -----they will have to give an account for their sins ----these people are still under the law ----All sin has consequenses --as you see above ---diseases etc---

If the person accepts Jesus then they are under Grace and the person's sins are remembered no more-- it matters not what the person did ---so the gay person who accepts Christ is going to heaven --now the thing here is ---Those who have Christ they will not want to go and sin ---The Holy Spirit convicts when sin happens in a born again person -----it will not feel OK with them inside their own selves -----

God Bless Brother