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The Universe

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,(1770 - 1831), called his system absolute idealism. He believed that reality is Absolute Mind, Reason, or Spirit. Absolute Mind is universal, while each individual mind is an aspect of it, as is the consciousness and rational activity of each person. Absolute Mind continually develops itself in its quest for its own unification and actualization. For this purpose, it manifests itself as the subjective consciousness of the individual, who undergoes a rational process of development from a purely materialistic and self-centered state to a universal and rational consciousness. In this process, the individual passes through several phases--family, society, state--each of which represents a move from individualism to unity. Human history in general is the progressive movement from bondage to freedom. Such freedom is achieved only as the separate desires of the individual are overcome and integrated into the unified system of the state, in which the will of the individual is replaced by the will of all.

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Hegel is one of the few philosophers I have actually read...really different reading 'em and reading about them but the above is a  succinct summary of a major portion of his work...

I just thought it may be ponder able, interesting. I could be wrong (again) 

 

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I am not familiar with Hegal, are his theories similar to Kohlberg's theory of moral development?

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waterfall wrote:

I am not familiar with Hegal, are his theories similar to Kohlberg's theory of moral development?

I don't believe so. He seemed (to my very limited understanding) to be focused on moral

development, Hegel, consciousness. Both end in peculiar conclusions, Hegel in ultimate attunement with the state; Kohlberg; diffident moral development in stages I don't follow,

(Sigh) I am far from being any kind of authority on either,,,

--- I just think that a 'universal consciousness' exists, of which we are all a shard

---is a neat-o conjecture.

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David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel,

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Witch wrote:

David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel,

 

I presume their could be room for others equally stable.

 

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Many mortals cannot consume this profundity of Ðøom ... as metaphor of book knowledge without wisdom. Knowledge is easily passed but some movement is required for digestion ... and humans suffer from constitutionalized instutution ... plugged full and no way to precess about it a Moses in nihelism (close to delight).

 

Mind the fires of passion on the subject, or the object of concern will douse yah ... or they say de deuced as they did with witches and whirlwolves, that learned outside the royal church system (during irregular inquisition, some rub intended) . It is a matter of un-natural confinement as Freud or Jung identified hysteresis ... an electic condition of the soul entity ... when opened ID discharges (like capacitance). What is another curiosity depending on what has been stuffed into the dural saac once called a white stone in biblical language as metaphor for the containment of the diamond mind ... difficult to get into unless you play with ID! But hoo dah precessed about IT ... that witch is out-th'Eire ... a great Maas Toby fore gotten in reversal of emotions ... following thought in the other direction with force ... that which Einstein called tensor ... in which much is lost to mortal ... the unconscious side ... now that's something else!

 

Do I know this Toby true? Not in the least with all the corruption encountered but there does appear to be some alien rationale attached tuit

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I've never read either authors, David Hume or Georg Hegel. But with just a quick glance at the Wiki bio's I would tend towards Hegal's Universal Mind. 

 
 
Hume, says Wiki, "concluded that desire rather than reason governed human behaviour". Hume says that "reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions".
 
 
Hegel, on the other hand seems to "rejects the reality of finite and separate objects and minds in space and time", replacing them with a reality that is "an underlying all-embracing unity, the Absolute."
 
 
They both could be right of course. It may be that Hume simply views things from the bottom up while Hegal sees things from the top down. And then of course there's always the possibility that since I haven't read either in any detail I could therefore  be totally off base in either of my judgements here!
 
 
An Absolute Unity underlying all existence makes total sense to me however. Absolute Mind or Absolute Unity may exist both within and beyond time and space, whereas our existence only occurs within time and space. This concept, also known as Hegelianism, is very much in step with the Hindu philosophy. In fact the Hindus attributed a symbol and a sound to this concept, and they call it "AUM" or simply "OM".
 
 
Could "OM" be "The Word" of the Bible? Could the Holy Spirit and the Univeral Mind be synonymous terms? Could the fact the we as human beings are "The Thinkers" reflect the scriptures that says were were created in the image of the God, the Universal Mind?
 
 
From http://hinduism.about.com website: "Om, therefore, represents both the unmanifest (nirguna) and manifest (saguna) aspects of God. That is why it is called pranava, to mean that it pervades life and runs through our prana or breath.
 
 
While our passions and desires may have stirred us into movement initially, it'll be with our minds, our intuition and the holy spirit within that'll  provide us with the means to eventually come to know God. 
 

 

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OEm is aus sum on the other side ... like jumping the line as Jack, the devil that went through it!

 

Down under they call eM Aussie when they reek of emotions ... there is a certain Eire about eM like psyche-IC! In egypt it was just Mos Sea on the whetted side of the white stone of Revelations 2:17 ... makes the whole thing shimmer ... wealth of the mind in non physical determinates ... generally a large unknown!

 

Odd thing when viewed from outside the system ... back to Kos Moe Logical Humour!

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I agree that the universe is universal consciousness, spirit or mind, and that each individual spirit or mind is an inseparable aspect of the cosmic mind.

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No Python fans here apparently...

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WaterBuoy wrote:

Many mortals cannot consume this profundity of Ðøom ... 

 

How did you enter those foreign letters?  Cut and paste from a Word doc?

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Hi Witch,

 

Witch wrote:

David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel,

 

Wittgenstein a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel

 

So says Bruce.  yes

 

Grace and peace to you.

John

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And I believe Greece still leads Germany 1 to nil.

 

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EasternOrthodox wrote:

WaterBuoy wrote:

Many mortals cannot consume this profundity of Ðøom ... 

 

How did you enter those foreign letters?  Cut and paste from a Word doc?

 

Just click on the omega icon on the menu above and take your pick.

 

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Thank you Arm, you give me a right hand ...

 

 

Too bad there weren't moor of an array there we could resolve a real spectre of word!

 

Pho'd for the soul as unnatural manna ... there's a thought in Romantic impressions!

 

Mortals are not to think only Gods, and with conditioning they forget ...

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