I guess this is directed to Admin. If someone posts "offensive", do you as overseer of the site, make the decision to remove the thread?
Who is told? Is a wondermail sent to the poster who starts the thread?
How are the other posters who weighed in on the thread told it has been removed?
Admin, can you give us an update on this?
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ninjafaery
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:30
Do you want someone to flag your post as offensive as an experiment to see what happens?
I'd be happy to oblige, since I"m a brat at heart.
Or you could flag mine. Should I say something offensive?
MikePaterson
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:36
Hi Ninj
I just tried posting your post as offensive and my post vanished.
Ouch!
crazyheart
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:38
"THanks but no thanks" - a Sarah Palinism
My question comes , I guess, from the thought that what is offensive to some is not offensive to others. For instance, crude language to me is offensive, but to others this is the language that they use every day, so to them it is not
And, so if everytime I saw the "f" word written on this board and flagged it offensive for me, I would have 50 posters yelling at me that it is not offensive to them.
Any thoughts.
MikePaterson
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:38
Now the option to flag as offensive seems to have gone from BOTH our posts. Maybe you can only be found offensive by one person who thereby also gains some immunity?
MikePaterson
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:39
I actually find all sorts of things offensive. I'm very sensitive.
revjohn
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:50
Hi MikePaterson,
Now the option to flag as offensive seems to have gone from BOTH our posts. Maybe you can only be found offensive by one person who thereby also gains some immunity?
I can see them.
Maybe once flagged the flag option disappears. Otherwise really offended people might flag the same post multiple times.
It might also be that admin is alerted in some way and they get to offer a ruling on the post if they feel it is warranted. Having vetted a particular post they may not turn the flag option back on that particular post for the initial flagger just because it will prevent you from flagging it again and again and again until the flagger gets their own way.
Or maybe it could just be another bug.
Grace and peace to you.
John
abpenny
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:58
I find big fat liars very offensive.
Other than that, few things bother me. If something does I count it as good practice to learn to stop blushing....I'm 56 for heaven sakes. I would like to know how to zap big fat liars, though...I think flagging is kinda wussy for that offense.
ninjafaery
Posted on: 10/24/2008 11:58
So now I get a reputation of being offensive? Did I just lose one of my three cracks at being offensive before being booted off the site?
Beloved
Posted on: 10/24/2008 12:03
Greetings!
I would find really bad crude language offensive. But, someone using, let's say the "F" word, very occasionally because they feel they absolutely could not verbalize themself adequately without using it, I may be able to overlook somewhat.
Something that pops to my mind . . . another question . . . is using the word spelled out in full (again referring to the "F" word) any different than using it in an acronym with just the "F" as in "WT_"? (I can't even type it cause it makes me feel like I'm saying it !) Any opinions on that?
If something was really hateful, really racist, really distasteful, really sexually harassing - and continual - I would also find that offensive - if it was a one time (or two) lack of poor judgement, I would probably be able to overlook it.
For myself, I would probably not flag something I found offensive myself on a post, but would probably send an email to administration with my concerns and trust their judgment to deal with it appropriately.
Hope, peace, joy, love . . .
ninjafaery
Posted on: 10/24/2008 12:06
Beloved said, "If something was really hateful, really racist, really distasteful, really sexually harassing - and continual - I would also find that offensive - if it was a one time lack of poor judgement, I might be able to overlook it."
That pretty much sums up how I feel as well.
WTF seems to have snuck into common language somehow. You can go into the variety store and get a slushie flavoured "WTF".
crazyheart
Posted on: 10/24/2008 12:13
I remember reading a post in Social months ago that was offensive. I called the poster on it and ask that they monitor themselves and remove their own post. I was totally ignored but I couldn't find it in me to report the poster to Admin. Why do you suppose that was?
Beloved
Posted on: 10/24/2008 13:49
Greetings!
Could be a lot of reasons crazyheart . . . for myself, I might not want to report someone to someone for something for any of the following reasons:
I wouldn't want:
Others may have other reasons to add.
Hope, peace, joy, love . . ..
you didn
MikePaterson
Posted on: 10/24/2008 13:59
Now I've got my POWERS bacK! Heh heh. I wonder if i can get a hard man reputation around here by flagging MY OWN posts as offensive?
So what happened to you Ninj? Did your screen self destruct? Was there a knock at the door? Did they take you away? And is someone else pretending to be you so as to not cause a panic?
How will we ever know?
LoveJoy
Posted on: 10/24/2008 14:26
I would think that if a post is flagged it would have to actually BE offensive for it to be removed. That would mean it would have to be racist, sexist or hate-speech or something like that. I find that wondercafe is the least moderated site I've ever seen on the internet. By that I mean...people can get quite nasty, use the F-word or whatever, and nothing is done (which I think is ok, btw). And there is NO censorship of ideas, opinions or anything like that on wondercafe.
It would be good, though, if Admin sent a wondermail to the poster explaining the reason for the removal of it though.
WonderCafeAdmin
Posted on: 10/24/2008 16:04
Hi Folks,
So you know, when a post is flagged as offensive, a message is sent to Admin, and we check it out. There have been a few already, and a post or two have been removed for various reasons. There have also been a few that we've allowed to remain! If a post needs to be removed, a message will be sent to the user, and if it continues, we have the option to warn, block or ban the user.
The person who flags the post will also be notified of the action taken.
Ninjafaery, so you know, your post has been allowed! :-)
Thanks,
Admin
revjohn
Posted on: 10/24/2008 16:44
Hey MikePaterson
So you know, when a post is flagged as offensive, a message is sent to Admin, and we check it out.
My speculation was pretty close eh?
Grace and peace to you.
John
Pinga
Posted on: 10/24/2008 20:08
you're a clever cookie, aren't ya...lol
thanks admin...seems like a logical approach
revjohn
Posted on: 10/27/2008 15:07
Hi Pinga,
you're a clever cookie, aren't ya...lol
I'm so bright my mother calls me sun.
Grace and peace to you.
John
elisabeth
Posted on: 10/27/2008 15:30
I think that this is a good idea. I have not really seen too many offensive posts on this message board but I was working on a legal case where I had to review a number of "political message boards" and some of them got very offensive. It seems to me that the moderator has a really hard job monitoring all of the messages that are flying back and forth especially when discussions become heated and if some of the participants can help out occasionally that is good. It also helps the monitor get an idea of the tone that the participants want to maintain. For example if one person identifies a post as offensive it is one thing, if he gets 30 complaints about that post that may be more persuasive. For me language is less of an issue than hate, racsism, homophobia and sexism. Basically I my hope is that we can discuss contraversial matters here, we can disagree but maintain a level of respect for each other. The wonderful thing about the "wonder cafe" is that mostly we do. I think that is a credit to us all! Pats on the backs all around LOL. E.