Inanna...are you an INFP? I thought you might be, but with a higher IQ than me!

Hi Kimmio

Cool....I'm so thirsty for new topics.

 

We sure could have a lot of fun with this one. I'm not too familiar with it although I understand the test was around before the Dead Sea died.

 

 

You sure are in good company. I found a list of celebrities who are INFP, check it out.

 

 

The problem with these types of tests is that very often we really don't know ourselves  very well, not as well as we think we do re our answers.  Also our answers may depend on our moods  on a given day. There are so many variables. On the net someone was saying if our personalities truly were so fixed we'd be in a mental place. We all have some similiar personality traits out of 16 that are  given. 

 

 

(I'll get back on this, I have company coming.

Inanna Whimsey..?...yes.... the WC genius definitely)

 

Celebrities

http://www.celebritytypes.com/infp.php

 

 

Critical opinions here, there's such  a wide variety of opinions on the net.

 

http://www.skepdic.com/myersb.html

 

Stardust...I think the same thing. These tests are parts of the picture...but then as I read the comments I have so much in common with some people, it's hilarious! Like, have you ever been to a restaurant, and you leave your sunglasses there, your jacket someplace else- and the next time you go shopping you leave your keys there- you still haven't figured out where you left your jacket and the clerk runs after you to bring you your keys...and you're stopping to type this on your iPhone right now? Could happen to me- easily! (Hello hiring managers- hire me! Lol.)

In all seriousness, I CAN be less of a space cadet...but it's a struggle. I don't come by organizational skills and pragmatism easily. My mother trained me...INFPs almost have to train themselves out of it to function- or try to make a living as artists if they have enough skill and discipline. Like on my way to work I wish that the bus goes a few more stops so I can hear that song one more time and I imagine the lyrics and I get a little weepy...but I like that...or have you ever imagined that your feet felt like hands and then as you wiggle your foot you feel a phantom thumb toe and you are actually disappointed that you don't really have one, and frustrated because now that you felt it the sensations still there when you think about it again...funny stuff! I have actually thought that! And so has someone else there!!! So there's some truth to this. I think all the misfits fit there! :)

Kimmio

You're scary..............

 

I'll spend time on this forum later, its groovy.

 

There are debates going on about whether multi- tasking is driving us all nuts?  Too many irons in the fire perhaps? Internet or iphone addiction is another up and coming catastrophe. We have worries about teens texting while walking . Somebody  actually fell into a pot hole while texting.  Then of course there's the drivers who text while driving,  they  kill themselves and others.

 

Communication is good but are we over doing it re being trivial via the media   ? I mean is there much ado about nothing? Have we forgotten how to   concentrate, how to think? 

INTJ

 

It is just a preference.

I don't drive. So that's good. I don't walk and text because I use a cane so that's good too. But I will stop in my tracks to text something while in the grocery store and get so engrossed in it that I don't realize that someone's trying to get past me...then they get testy and I feel bad about it for awhile.

Edit:

Re your post above:

If someone has never been crazy, done or said something crazy, they have missed half  of the fun of living. It would be such a very boring life.

Are you sure you didn't always have your own way as a kid.....? laugh.....and that's what you're trying to recapture ever since? The bus and the music should obey your whims...funny...you've quite the imagination too!

Hmm. A prefence in the sense that you can further develop the less prominent traits...but our natural tendencies are pretty true to the original type. I like being an INFP but if only I could translate that into something others will appreciate and find useful instead of discussing thumb toes on WC?

I was an only child until 9 when my dad moved in with my stepmom. Then I was hurled into middle child on the weekends. And they hated me. No. My older stepsister always got her own way! My stepbrother was an impish little prankster...and I just tried to get along so they wouldn't torture me. At my mom's place, my mom wouldn't let me have my own way (she wouldn't even let me bring stuff home from my dad's place) if she caught me with something I got while I was there, she let me have the wooden spoon! But I was always INFP, long before that. I used my nerf ball as a sponge to watercolour paint with. And I made friends with caterpillars. I cried when I found out that tuna used to swim in the ocean with their friends- and now they're on my plate. Judging by the comments on the site...that's INFP true blue!

Aw...Kimmio...but see how privileged you've become being here on the WC and all....

 My mother was a public school teacher. I was her pupil sometimes and she would keep me in at recess to prove that she didn't play favorites. I know because I was always good...ahem . I didn't know my father (separation)   he died young at 42.   I also had a step father ( don't ask)  and a half sister.

Hi Kimmio,

 

 

Yes.  It is similar to having a favourite colour or a favourite food.

 

You may not like other colours or other foods, you still wear them and eat them.

 

Score wise I'm a very definite introvert.  I can handle social gatherings with a number of strangers.  I wouldn't choose such a gathering ordinarily.  Every now and then it is a necessity and so I fit in.

 

It helps if there are folk present who respect my introversion.  Extroverts are the worst for failing to notice it.  Sometimes I'd rather be with introverted strangers than my extroverted friends.

 

 

True.  But they aren't fixed.  On some of the charts I am so moderate that I might swing back and forth.  Introversion has never wavered though I don't think it ranks as high now as it once did.

 

Nor would I want to be rid of it.  I love solitude.  It is a great place to think inside of.

 

 

Somebody somewhere has complied a list of all the character types and the jobs their types are suited to.  I don't think it is quite that simple but it would be a place to start.

 

Grace and peace to you.

John

I know...ironically, used to work in the employment couselling field for a few years- made over a third more, maybe double, money than I do now- parts of it were great but man was it stressful- mentally, emotionally, physically. Totally wore me out. There was a lot of "playing a role" expected and some value conflict. The job I have now is a pretty good fit. Ain't perfect and doesn't pay well- but my boss must be an INF something. I'm blessed. Great guy. We work in an office- with cubicles- pretty mundane- but he meditates and makes wood instruments in his spare time. I'll write that novel...someday! It'll probably take me a shorter time to write it than to think about writing it.

Here's a website  related to jobs and the test. I can't recall ever having taken this test in my banking or Trust Co. career in my younger days. 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/mar/19/myers-briggs-test-unscientific

I know it's a pseudo-science, but I think there's truth to it. I find it really wrong that you are expected to brag about your accomplishments in job interviews- yet, that's what we're told we have to do.

I think learning the other traits would be more like learning a different language. It takes awhile to "think" in the second language. Some people never do, they're always translating as they go.

The teacher's kids were always the really good kids! My mom was actually a sub at my elementary school for awhile. I was a really good (well pretty good) kid until sometime in highschool. But I got in trouble once- I got a detention in art period- because we were supposed to make these coloured paper vases to tack up on the board for a spring display- and I was daydreaming and probably didn't hear the instructions- so when the other kids were folding their paper in half so that both sides were symmetrical, I was drawing mine freehand and it came out lopsided and I got a detention for that! I was so ashamed! Then the same teacher put me in a class for gifted kids which was great- until I changed schools and they were doing Mensa (type) tests already and I couldn't keep up- so back to regular class again.

The celebs...I can see it in some. The poets, writers, I admire. On another site it says Mr. Rogers was INFP (but he seemed more extroverted)- so you've got a spectrum from Edgar Alan Poe to Mr. Rogers. Some of those people I admire...but I have none of their talent. Not well developed anyway. I would not want fame. Ugh. The drugs took Jim Morrison and Kurt Kobain down. They were talented- but they went sideways, then down. Johnny Depp! Whoo Hoo! I always knew it. Alas...he was out of my league. My hubby looks a bit like him- at least I think so. ;)

Kimmio

You're such an original and you're still gifted in so many ways.....:)

My company just left so I'm gonna read up on the OP  topic.

 

Where do chronic alcohol  drinkers or alcoholics fit in? I suppose we shouldn't stereotype...?...it is a disease. I've known some men who couldn't attend social events ( weddings, funerals) unless they had a few shots under their belt first. Their basic characters may be introverts who become extroverts after a few  too many swigs?

 

Or its a totally different scenario, different topic for another time. I read a book....."Games Alcoholics Play ". I thought about it when Inanna Whimsey wrote to you  about game playing for all of us.

The skeptics...they don't get it. ;)

I could see how INFPs- introverts in general could be prone to alcoholism. It makes sense. Then others...maybe they escape into books or music or poetry or painting. Some do both perhaps. It would be living a paradox- to have fame and people always in your face, critiquing your work in public, maybe misunderstanding it- if you don't like crowds, and you're a rock star? Maybe that's how they cope. They hit the bottle, or the drugs.

Here's Rev. John's prognosis - sp

 

 

INTJ.

I'm convinced there is truth in this test altho' perhaps not 100% meaning there's room for other surprise appearances of one's personality. Somebody on the WC wrote that only the 10 commandments were cast in stone .........:)

 

 

I'm INFP and I love Myers-Briggs.  Much of the critcism of Myers-Briggs is really based in the test and interpretations being horribly misused.

 

Myers-Briggs collects personality data and then groups it together to form personality profiles.  It's essentially a sorting system which, when used properly, should help people understand themselves and others and facilitate understanding and communication.  The 4 categories aren't the only categories that people can be sorted in to, obviously, but I think they were reasonable choices (where you get your energy, how you gather information, how you make decisions and how you organize yor behaviour).  Typically, the stronger your preference, the less likely it is that your preference will change over time.  

 

It should NEVER be used as a tool for hiring people.  It's a tool for self-knowledge above all else.  It can help an individual explore their own career interests and options, but it can't help an employer know whether a person is capable of doing a job or not.  Knowing your type and someone else's can help you to communicate more effectively and to understand that differences between and among people are ok.  

I agree. Not sure it is used for hiring people...although a career that is strongly suited for an ESTJ...an INFP would not be a good fit for (they might be capable of it but miserable in it)...but I had to laugh, on the thread "You know you're an INFP if?"...and someone answered, "If you took the MBTI." I think some HR's use it for understanding their staff/ team better (if they're sincere about it not trying to root out those that don't fit a mold- it'd make me nervous if I knew the HR was an ESTJ administering the test. ) edit: removed wink. Not even funny. I would feel nervous if the HR giving the test was an ESTJ.

I'm an ISFP - introverted sensing feeling perceiver. It means I'm kind - laid-back - quiet - and sensitive. I love nature - and art - and music. I'm really into anything I come into contact with using my five senses. I relate really well with kids and animals.

Yeah. We're pretty close in MB type. I looked up ISFP again. Was wondering what the difference between sensing and intuition was- sensing is relying on the 5 senses, and intuition is like a sixth sense (which can be wrong especially according to the thinking sensors, but we INFP's will fiercely defend it if our value system says so, anyway- which is also my intuitive understanding). Are you sure you're not an INFP (do you lean close to it)?

I've taken the real test and the online ones a couple of times too. I am almost always INFP...always NFP for sure. When I was working in a job where I had to be outgoing and be 'out there' with my E hat on taking cues from what was going on around me...I got 'stage fright' everytime I had to do any public speaking in front of more than a handful of people but I did it anyway and wasn't too bad (I actually gave small workshops and once I got used to it, especially if it was with the same small group for a few times, I was okay. It could be fun, but I still got nervous everyday even if it was with with the same group until a few minutes into it...large groups I buckle at...not surprisingly, I came closer to the middle between E and I during that period of time (took the test again as part of a career development course to learn about the test- we were learning about various career exploration tools in the course- some are casual tools, that anyone in the field can work with, others like MBTI are patented and you need particular certification for administering the full test. I think that's how MBTI makes money because it's not rocket science. I didn't become certified to administer it professionally but almost took that course too. I have forgotten a lot of specifics. It's been a few years). I most definately feel like an I.

Thinking sensors? Hm, usually the four groups considered are the SJs, SPs, NFs, and NTs. Do you perhaps mean the SJs? You asked if I'm close to being an INFP. Good call. My preference for sensing is slight according to the official MBTI-II and some online tests. (My I and F are moderate preferences, my P is a strong preference.)

That was a category, according to my own intuition. Meaning, people who rely on data/ thoughts and 5 senses vs. feelings and intuition are going to see the world quite differently, I think (or I intuit/ feel). They perhaps will rely on hard evidence as perceived by their five senses (those who require 'proof' for example- can't just get a feel a strong hunch, that they 'know', without seeing, for something being the case without proof first- not a hard sense of knowing but a strong belief that you feel to be true). And those who are ST get as upset about that as those who are NF would be inclined to get frustrated with the ST for not "getting it". (sorry, edits, got that muddled up- got myself confused. ;) )

The thing with relying on the five senses is that for one thing they can only determine human perceptions. The other thing is- look at Stevie Wonder, for example- a blind person who has a "sixth sense" you could say. Artists have it too- they intuit ideas and possibilities through imagination, they 'see' what isn't there yet or they see something in a different way. Stevie Wonder- he has 4 senses, plus his 6th- highly developed- his "mind's eye"- and he did amazing things with it. I would venture to speculate that he may not have been so gifted had he not been without his eyesight, but of course, neither I or anyone else can proove that (and someone's bound to get offended by me suggesting that)...I'm pretty sure your 'N' is quite strong.