DKS
Job Requirement: Cannot Suck at Preaching
Posted on: 05/27/2011 20:53
I came across this ad for one of our local radio stations. Part of the job description looks like this:
Experience with administration, staff management, BBM, programming tools and effective resources are A-side. Flipping to the B-Side, this person cannot suck on-air and in fact win listeners and effectively model.
I wonder how that would look at part of the job description on a Joint Needs Assessment?
"This person can not suck at preaching and in fact win listeners and effectively model."
Does it resonate? Or not?
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GordW
Posted on: 05/28/2011 12:23
Well it fulfills the duty to truth in advertising. Can't see that language getting past Presbytery though. Is there a church-speak equivalent?
DKS
Posted on: 05/28/2011 12:30
Well it fulfills the duty to truth in advertising. Can't see that language getting past Presbytery though. Is there a church-speak equivalent?
Yeah. That's too bad.
revjohn
Posted on: 05/28/2011 14:32
Hi GordW,
Well it fulfills the duty to truth in advertising. Can't see that language getting past Presbytery though. Is there a church-speak equivalent?
Must not sucketh at preaching?
Grace and peace to you.
John
redbaron338
Posted on: 05/28/2011 14:43
Ranks right up there with "Cab attract and keep youth, raise funds, change the world but not the congregation, and walk on water."
DKS
Posted on: 05/28/2011 15:56
Ranks right up there with "Cab attract and keep youth, raise funds, change the world but not the congregation, and walk on water."
Actually, more realistic that walking on water or attracting youth.
Birthstone
Posted on: 05/28/2011 17:01
Ranks right up there with "Cab attract and keep youth, raise funds, change the world but not the congregation, and walk on water."
Actually, more realistic that walking on water or attracting youth.
agreed!
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/28/2011 17:53
The modern Church equivalent?
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Sucking chest wounds, now that's a WHOLE other thing, unless Jesus' was big on the Sundance...
DKS
Posted on: 05/28/2011 18:42
The modern Church equivalent?
3xp3RI3Nc3 \/\/I7|-| /-\d|\/|Ini57r@7i0n, $7/-\Ff m/-\n@g3m3N7, 88|\/|, pR0gr@m/\/\ING 700l5 @Nc| 3fF3C7I\/3 r3$0|_|rc35 @r3 /-\-sic|3. fLipPIng 7o 7h3 8-$ic|3, 7|-|I$ p3r50n c@nno7 5|_|Ck 0N-@ir /-\nd iN F@c7 win LI573NeRs @Nc| 3fF3C7i\/3lY /\/\0c|el.
And what was that?
somegalfromcan
Posted on: 05/28/2011 20:10
The original post written in some kind of crazy crypt.
Mendalla
Posted on: 05/28/2011 20:11
The original post written in some kind of crazy crypt.
I was almost there, just hadn't made the connection to the OP yet. Good catch, somegal.
Mendalla
somegalfromcan
Posted on: 05/28/2011 20:15
Thanks!
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/28/2011 20:27
/\/\477|-|3\/\/ 5:5 bL3$$3D R 7|-|3 9r33|<: Ph0r 7|-|3'/ $|-|4LL 1|\||-|3r17 j00r pr0P3r7'/.
:3
redbaron338
Posted on: 05/28/2011 20:58
/\/\477|-|3\/\/ 5:5 bL3$$3D R 7|-|3 9r33|<: Ph0r 7|-|3'/ $|-|4LL 1|\||-|3r17 j00r pr0P3r7'/.
:3
Gesundheit
somegalfromcan
Posted on: 05/28/2011 23:41
I think Inannawhimsey has been captured by aliens who are using his account to take over the world.
DKS
Posted on: 05/29/2011 06:29
The original post written in some kind of crazy crypt.
I was almost there, just hadn't made the connection to the OP yet. Good catch, somegal.
Mendalla
Looked just fine on this end. Check your browser.
somegalfromcan
Posted on: 05/29/2011 16:15
The original post written in some kind of crazy crypt.
I was almost there, just hadn't made the connection to the OP yet. Good catch, somegal.
Mendalla
Looked just fine on this end. Check your browser.
I was referring to Inanna's "interpretation."
RichardBott
Posted on: 05/31/2011 20:51
You're leet, Innana :)
r
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/31/2011 20:55
You are very worldly, RichardBott :3 Here's your No-Prize :3
Didja know that an Aussie Christian org actually made a l33t Bible that is all in txt messages? :3
DKS
Posted on: 05/31/2011 21:53
Sorry. In my world, leet-speak is uncool. And disrespectful.
RichardBott
Posted on: 05/31/2011 22:06
More disrespectful than any two people speaking a language that the rest of the group doesn't understand, DKS?
I wonder if we'd ever consider our church-speak or theological jargon to be similarly disrespectful?
Christ's peace - r
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/31/2011 22:19
somegirfromcan, you did very well for not knowing the ways of l33t. I think you deserve a No-Prize as well :3
somegalfromcan
Posted on: 05/31/2011 22:27
Sw33t! Thanks Inanna!
Richard - welcome back - it's good to see you on here again. It was fun meeting you at Epiphany Explorations and Victoria Presbytery events in January.
RichardBott
Posted on: 05/31/2011 22:44
Thanks, somegal...
Sometimes I have to wander away when I can't seem to find the right 'tone' in my posts. I've been lurking for awhile, but didn't post... thought I'd try again. :)
It was great to meet you, too!
Christ's peace - r
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/31/2011 22:48
RichardBott,
in case you don't know, check out this thread aboot a Lower Mainland wondergathering on June 11th.
somegalfromcan
Posted on: 05/31/2011 22:55
I'm looking forward to meeting you at that gathering Inanna! Richard - it would be grand if you joined us.
DKS
Posted on: 06/01/2011 06:24
More disrespectful than any two people speaking a language that the rest of the group doesn't understand, DKS?
I wonder if we'd ever consider our church-speak or theological jargon to be similarly disrespectful?
Christ's peace - r
Exactly the same, Richard. Exactly the same. Churchspeak is equally disrespectful outside of a particular context (i.e. a church court or gathering of peers) within the church. Translation or summarization is always appreciated and a gesture of hospitality.
Jim Kenney
Posted on: 06/01/2011 15:39
My big complaint is ready reliance on acronyms -- step out of regular church gatherings for a year, and there are new ones that confound those not in on the jargon.
Mendalla
Posted on: 06/01/2011 15:56
My big complaint is ready reliance on acronyms -- step out of regular church gatherings for a year, and there are new ones that confound those not in on the jargon.
But that's part of the joy of being in a specialized field, isn't it? I went to library school and came out with 50% more acronyms in my brain than I had going in. And 12 years in IT for a healthcare company has increased that total by another 100% or so.
Mendalla
GordW
Posted on: 06/01/2011 16:00
I have been known to ask the "dumb" questions in Presbytery meetings on a regular basis. You know things like:
What is MPE?
What is a JNAC?
What's a remit?
etc...
On the principle that there are always people in the court who may not know what we are talking about. It has gotten me some rather nasty looks at times...
RevJamesMurray
Posted on: 06/01/2011 16:01
But if our goal is to offer the gospel to everyone, expecting them to learn our language before they can understand it is like expecting people to learn Klingon in order to watch an episode of Star Trek.
DKS
Posted on: 06/01/2011 20:53
My big complaint is ready reliance on acronyms -- step out of regular church gatherings for a year, and there are new ones that confound those not in on the jargon.
For a number of years Toronto Conference provided an acronym translation section in their pre-conference book.
clergychickita
Posted on: 06/02/2011 12:16
"Cannot suck at preaching" -- it would probably be helpful to be a bit clearer on what that means... is it about delivery, presence, volume, tone? Or is it about content -- and if so, do you want Bible-based, related to daily living preaching? Or learning about historical contexts and exegesis? Or using a digital projector to link images to issues and thoughts raised?
I have found it humourous/sad/interesting over the years, to hear the compliments I receive about my preaching. "I can always hear you" is always reassuring from the hearing-aid crowd. "I love how you explain the Bible reading" and "it's great how you relate the story to our actual lives" makes me wonder about previous preachers (keeping in mind the short memories of some congregants). "I take issue with something you said today" is the hardest to hear but somehow one of the best -- folks are listening, engaged, and wrestling with the text with me. all good...
shalom