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WC2 - Oh, behave! - Community Code of Conduct draft discussion
Posted on: 05/13/2014 09:15
We have put a first draft (well, first public draft, it's been drafted a few times among ourselves) of a Code of Conduct, including proposed sanctions and appeals process, for Wondercafe 2. There will not be a vote on it at this time. We are merely putting it out for discussion so you can have at it and propose changes, alternatives, new ideas, etc. If you think you can do it better, put your idea up on your blog and link to it from the thread. If you just want to change a clause or section, put your proposed change up in the thread. Nothing is cast in stone yet. What we want is your input on this code.
After this discussion, we will wait until the moderators are nominated and chosen and we will have a more specific discussion of it from a moderation standpoint with them, then bring a final draft back for a final public discussion and vote.
One thing we would ask is that, while the discussion can be a bit more freewheeling here than on other WC2 threads, we stay focussed on things like what rules we want, how we want them enforced, and such. Financial issues, governance issues, technical questions (other than related to moderation) should be in other threads.
For comparison, the current Guidelines of Conduct for this site:
http://www.wondercafe.ca/guidelines
Mendalla has copies of the guidelines/rules from other sites he is on as well if people wish to see them.
Wondercafe2 Admins: Mendalla, Pinga, chansen
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Pinga
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:16
I will say that I am not in a position to contribute very much, if anything, financially yet I fully expect to be welcomed as a member. I don't have computer skills, so there won't be any contribution that way either.
But I hope that my presence will be considered valuable. I think I can start or contribute to posts that raise awareness, ask questions, offer opinions, offer comfort and reassurance, and maybe even be amusing. I think that counts.
Seeler absolutely you are a valued member.
In fact, you are one of the people who I am building wondercafe2 for. You are important to me. I cannot imagine a site without your posts, I want to be a part of a community that you are a part of. You are not the only one. It is you that this is about, the members. It is about folks who show up for a week and need a kind voice or someone to ask clarifying questions. It is about youthworker, and all the othes who have popped in.
Pinga
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:22
Mendella, nah, I won't ask it to come back on topic. This one doesn't have a vote, it is a discussion. It is also a good example of how moderation can be difficult. For anyone considering who might be a good moderator, they can ponder this thread and what skills would be useful.
For me, I figure it's a free for all at this point.
My expectations are quite low about the deliverable of a dialogue on moderation in this thread at this point.
It does say why sometimes you may want specific forums with tighter rules. Ie one on council business may have tighter rules, than say an open one on religion/faith
Pilgrims Progress
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:24
Just checked in to see how things were going........
Pages and pages on code of conduct......
It's clear to me that there is a downside to Canadian politeness - it leads to never-ending discussion on what is acceptable and what is not.
I have just one question.
When I face palm my way through yet another thread that meanders in circles like an ancient Aussie river - with no destination in sight - is it acceptable for me to say,
"Oh, FFS!" (so long as I don't use the actual "rude" word?????)
Admin team, you have a long road ahead, may I suggest a week-end retreat once a month to recover?
Mendalla
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:27
I'll let you have "Oh, FFS" if I can have "OMGWTFBBQ".
Mendalla
PS. Look it up.
chemgal
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:27
Uh oh, even Pinga's given up :)
lol Pilgrim, go ahead and even write it out. Swearing is ok. Glad to see you're still around a bit, I haven't noticed many posts from you lately.
Pinga
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:41
on a side note, I am testing a function in wondercafe2 where if you type "fuck" it replaces the word with f***
Pilgrims Progress
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:45
Them's fightin' words, Mendalla.
No self-respecting Aussie would ever let a Canuck mess around with OUR barbeque.
Where would we put our prawns (not shrimps)?
Don't answer that - you would be breaking the code of conduct.
Pilgrims Progress
Posted on: 05/15/2014 18:54
Pinga, so glad to see that I've managed to drag you away from policing threads.
(Just a bit of light-hearted fun, cousin, so please don't be offended.)
Must run, 'I've got to see a man about a dog."........
Kimmio
Posted on: 05/15/2014 19:05
Well, then, perhaps definitions regargarding contributing finanancially. or in-kind or other activities related to the community, could be plainly explained. And very happily I will be proven incorrect.
It means (very clearly if you read it correctly) that contributing to the community is a way of demonstrating commitment for the purposes of being a member of Council just as being an active poster is. It isn't even about joining Wondercafe, it's about being nominated for Council. That's all. It does not mean you MUST contribute anything to be a poster or even to be on Council, it is just a way of acknowledging those who have contributed (there are a couple already) or will contribute in future should get some recognition for doing so.
Mendalla
PS. Damn, now I know why Kimmio posts the way she does. I've edited this sucker like 6 times. I need to slow down and review what I want to say before hitting Save.
Thanks....( I think?). ;)
chansen
Posted on: 05/15/2014 19:07
I will say that I am not in a position to contribute very much, if anything, financially yet I fully expect to be welcomed as a member. I don't have computer skills, so there won't be any contribution that way either.
But I hope that my presence will be considered valuable. I think I can start or contribute to posts that raise awareness, ask questions, offer opinions, offer comfort and reassurance, and maybe even be amusing. I think that counts.
Seeler absolutely you are a valued member.
In fact, you are one of the people who I am building wondercafe2 for. You are important to me. I cannot imagine a site without your posts, I want to be a part of a community that you are a part of. You are not the only one. It is you that this is about, the members. It is about folks who show up for a week and need a kind voice or someone to ask clarifying questions. It is about youthworker, and all the othes who have popped in.
Active members are the most important resource a forum can have. If the money dried up completely, we could literally move all of this to a simple, free forum with advertising galore and no frills, but free, and hopefully active. If the members leave, we're left with an empty site.
Having active members ensures we have lurkers who want to know what the members are writing today. Lurkers might become members. They might not, but even if they don't they are important, too. We want people who simply visit and don't even register to think, smile, and laugh along with us.
If they join in, all the better.
For the site we envisioned, we needed some funds. We asked around. We are grateful for those who supported us financially. Now we'll all have a kick-ass, top-notch discussion forum that Wondercafe should have been from the start. Even with the clunky tech, it marches on. That says something about the people and connections here.
AaronMcGallegos
Posted on: 05/15/2014 19:33
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/16/2014 19:07
oh, things are coming along SWIMMINGLY here
here's my contribution/interaction to the CoC
hello there, netizen, and welcome to wc: the Second Coming's code of conduct, a collection of ancient rules handed down by an angry goddess to demean hir jealous creations...
err,
created eons ago by the thirteen wise sages who had spent their whole reincarnations to discover hoary Truths (over more than a little wine...)
err,
a set of living social norms that we have tried to express in written form. they are created by humans and, as such, are human and not some Holy Writ...
(but the Deities of WC2 are the Star Chamber...err, the Guiding Council of Light and, as such, these rules will give you an idear as to what behaviours are ok and which aren't...try not to be afraid...much)
that written, following are some of the social norms here at WC: the Second Coming (cue electric guitar)
two axioms -- Don't be a Dick & You don't have the Right to not be Offended. what did our mothers teach us when dealing with others? to play well with others, not to play with others. and aboot offense: be cognizant of where your feelings & thoughts come from, where they are generated, and who has responsibility for them. there will be a test counting toward 50 per cent of your final grade, netizen
we're here to have conversations. an online community, fellow explorers of the shared human experience
don't ever feel obligated or entitled to stay here; take an opportunity to explore here for a month or two and if, after that, you don't feel like you belong, that's quite alright -- there are more than enough places on the 'net that would be happy to have you as a visitor
for those with a chip on their shoulder, with a need to be right, or righteous, or enjoy being the 9-year-old policecritter who tries to find the flaws and loopholes in laws, this isn't the place for you. the internet is wide and various; there are other places better suited for you.
this also isn't a freedom of speech board -- we aren't here to engage in a no rules groin-waving speech match...again, there are other places on the 'net that cater to that crowd
also remember that no one here has a sense of humour
none at all
well, not on days beginning with R
looking forward to riffing with you
Signed,
WC: the Second Coming's Fourth Horsecritter, the Cheerleader
Tabitha
Posted on: 05/17/2014 12:43
Lovely to hear from Aaaron.
Yes I trust the 3 who are taking us to the new step. I will be joining WC2 when it is open.
My participation level changes as other things in my life change but it is a community I value!
carolla
Posted on: 05/18/2014 20:58
love it Inanna! You do have a gift.