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Week 3: "I Am Listening" Lenten Discussion

Welcome to Week 3 of WonderCafe's Lenten devotional book study. (See Week 1 and Week 2.) 

 
We are reflecting together on the Lenten journey by looking at the daily devotions offered in the book,  I Am Listening: Daily Devotions for Lent (UCPH, 2011).   
 
We welcome you to join in the discussion whether or not you have a copy of the book.
 
Blessings as you journey together with us.
 
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Second Sunday in Lent | Rock Has No Feelings
 
"Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord." Psalm 130:1
 
For a year I was a miner in British Columbia. It wasn't my idea. I was sent as a labourer-teacher from Frontier College. I laboured during the day alongside the same folk I would teach in the evenings -- teaching them whatever they wished to learn. Most often it was English as a Second Language (ESL).
 
But is often the case for teachers, I learned much more than I taught. What I learned most that year happened underground -- in the mine in the mountain and in the depths of me. Indeed, I have found that most of life's profound learnings happen in the depths.
 
Underground I had the most amazing conversations. And in one of those oblique conversations, in the safety of the dark -- a confession.
 
With the drill shut off, compressed air leaking like a quiet sigh, the sound of water dripping...my innocent question: "How did you end up here as a miner?"
 
And an answer from the depths: "Rock has no feelings."
 
And then the story. The story of a broken family, broken relationships, kids slipping away estranged from their dad. A mountain of brokenness pressing down like the thousand metres of rock above us.
 
Conversations in the deep don't always have to happen underground. If we are willing to meet someone in their darkness, to listen in the dark to a story of confession or brokenness, we can encounter a place where the seed of healing can be planted and where new life, by God's grace, can stir.
 
And for us, too, on our own spiritual journey, Lent is one of those seasons when we are invited to go deep. We are given permission and encouragement to meet God who meets us in the depths of our lives with forgiveness, healing, hope, and a new dawn.
 
Discussion:  When did you experience a heart-to-heart conversation "in the deep"? What made it special?
 
 
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Day 11: Monday | Operation Friendship
 
“I will come down and talk with you there; and I will take  some of the spirit that is on you and put it on them; and they shall bear the burden of the people along with you so that you will not bear it all by yourself.” Numbers 11:17
 
Spring 2002, Kandahar, Afghanistan. We had just come through the most difficult part of our tour: four soldiers were killed and others wounded by the U.S. bomb that was dropped on the training range -- recorded in history as the “friendly fire incident.” The emotional stress had taken its toll, and we were all extremely tired.
 
The main role of the chaplain is to provide a ministry of presence—a listening and open ear; a smile; a shared laugh; comfort so that tears may flow; an hospitable space and welcome in an otherwise inhospitable atmosphere. On this late April day, I had reached the point where I thought there were no more smiles or kind words left in me. Living in tents, there was little privacy; so I had decided to take a walk—a walk in the sandstorm was better than sounding frustrated if someone came to talk.
 
Just as I was leaving, a young soldier arrived with my mail. Even in the days of e-mail, there is nothing like a letter or card—something that has touched the hands of one you love so far away, now touches yours. I opened an envelope addressed with the familiar scroll of a long-time friend. Inside there was a “thinking of you” card and written in her hand were the words “I am certain you are tired from looking after everyone” and instead of scolding me for not taking care of myself, she continued by saying “but when you are too tired from praying for your troops, remember we are praying for you.” At that moment, I not only heard the voice of God, but I felt the presence of all the prayers that surrounded me. I realized in my heart what I knew in my head, that I am not alone and that God works for us through others.
 
Almost 10 years have passed since that moment, but I can still step back in my mind and feel that strong presence of God and call on that support. We hear God more clearly not when we try, but when we are in need.
 
Discussion: When have you been changed when God spoke clearly to you through another human being? Did it come as a lightning bolt or was it a slow revelation?
 
 

 

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God speaking to me through another human being doesn't necessarily come to mind as someone actually speaking to me, but rather I have been changed by observing some rather "saintly" behaviours in others. Oddly enough, none of the people that come to mind, probably haven't any idea that they have profoundly impacted me in the way that they live out Christs teachings. It's quite astonishing to witness when there are no pretentious instructions or sermons on how to live ones life other than the a living example of Christ's Way demonstrated by the lives of those who claim it.

 

When I observe their lives, I think.... I want that too. They make me want to try to be a better person.

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For me, it's often been in humbling experiences of hospitality. For a good number of years, I was visiting various parts of Europe documenting bagpiping and music traditions, often meeting with people whose lives were embedded in their traditional cultures. Often these people were quite poor. Often, they were speakers of minority languages and, often, we communicated with difficulty.

And often I had no choice but to stay in their homes, and we would cimmunicate through scattered bits of imperfectly known languages in common, gesture, drawings, demonstration and teenage translaters who'd lerarned a bit of English in school.

To taste a very different culture in such ways, to receive hospitality from such people, to laugh and sing and spend tome with such people, to eat their foods their ways and drink their drinks their way, was often a deeply affecting revelation of goodness, generousity and indomitable humanity. I think of such encounters in Galicia, Italy, the Baltic states, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria… with minorities within these countries, including Islamic Roma, displaced Sudeten Czechs and Russians, legally stateless Belarusians… people with extraordinary histories, extreme experiences, rich traditions, deep insights and remarkable faith who've enlarged my spirit in all sorts of ways.

 

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God has spoken to me through Wondercafe.........

 

 

I  came upon this site  when I was first widowed - and still at the stage of knowing I needed to open myself up to socialising more - but lacking the will and courage.

 

Wondercafe was a perfect fit - it gave me control over when I wanted to interact or not. Besides, I could remain in the comfort of my own home and I didn't have to worry about clothes, appearance etc.

 

With time, I grew curious about this place called Canada and wanted to see it for myself.......

 

Problem was, I had relied on my husband when it came to arranging travel - my expertise was in packing our bags. And to travel by myself????

 

 

On this occasion God spoke to me through LBmuskoka.

She took the trouble to send me this quote attributed to Anais Nin -

 

"There comes a time when the risk to remain tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom."

 

I got on that plane - and the quote stays with me.........

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I think that's how you know that it's Godde talking to you. When the words zing to your heart and stay there, feeling right, if not necessarily comfortable.

 

In my experience, Godde's very not about comfortable, which makes my very dominant Inner Control Freak very uncomfortable. *grins*

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On a more serious note, I had one of those deep conversations that I'll never forget with my daughter, in a car, in a raging snowstorm. It was as if there were only two of us in the world, and the rest of the world was just a big white hole.

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Day 12: Tuesday | Turn Suffering into Hope
 
"Then he began to teach them that the Son of Man must undergo great suffering, and be rejected…and be killed, and after three days rise again…. He called the crowd with his disciples, and said to them, “If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.”  Mark 8:31–34
 
 
At the time of writing, I was especially aware of all of the suffering in every corner of the world: natural catastrophes caused by earthquakes and floods, and killings and brutality in our own towns. Then I happened to be walking down the street and heard a woman screaming in anger at someone. Do all of these events of suffering relate? Yes. When someone is hurt, God participates in that suffering. It doesn’t matter how great or small that hurt may be.
 
As I grow older, my thoughts turn much more to the suffering of God. Jesus revealed God’s involvement in our world as the Creator of the vast universe who shares in every part of the creation. Often, when I pray alone, I imagine myself out there among the vast swirling stars and think, God, your greatness is unimaginable, yet you still care for me. So, when I read the news and feel that suffering is in the world, I know that God feels this pain.
 
We don’t have to look far to wring our hands in despair, and yet that is where the Passion of Christ can reach us. The life of Jesus points us to comfort and love. All we need to do is to love God and our neighbour as ourselves. Suffering is part of the gospel message but love shared radiates joy and turns suffering into hope.This hope comes, not in great gestures, but by our turning to each person we meet and showing them our genuine concern and love.
 
A person, while in prison, wrote these words on a wall:
 
If you will trust in God to guide you and hope in God through all your ways,
God will give strength, whate’er betide you, and bear you through the evil days.
Who trusts in God’s unchanging love builds on the rock that will not move.
 
This has been a hymn for me, a touchstone that provides courage and comfort and peace.
 
 
Discussion: How do you think God participates in our suffering? Does the idea that God suffers when we suffer change your concept of God in any way? Does it change your spiritual life?
 
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I have gone through a lot in the past 4 years and knowing that God has been with me every step of the way helps a lot in getting me through everything. Does God suffer with me? I don't believe so I believe that God understands everything I am going through and walks with me. The "suffering" I have had to  has only made me stronger and more in tune with others around me who are also going through hard times. I am thank ful for that.

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Day 13: Wednesday | Fear of Others
 
"Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned; for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord and your words, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice.” 1 Samuel 15:24
 
In this passage, Saul has wronged God. He has admitted to not following God’s request due to the fear of others. Does Saul not see that with God there is nothing to fear, that in doing God’s work you are infinitely bigger and more powerful than any enemy? Saul was not able to see the importance of God’s request and so he “sinned” and “transgressed the commandment of the Lord.” Foolishly, like a child, Saul seems to think that by admitting his wrongs, he will be easily forgiven and will quickly find favour with God again. This is not so.
 
More than just being disappointed in Saul, God regrets the decision to make Saul king over Israel. If we believe in a God who makes no mistakes, who creates perfect beings in God’s own image, it is hard for us to imagine such regret in God’s heart. It is even harder to imagine we have the ability to make God regret.
 
Do our actions Monday through Saturday speak louder than our hymns and prayers on Sunday morning? Perhaps our behaviour toward the least and the smallest of God’s creations is more meaningful than the promise or confession we make in worship.
 
This is the strength and braveness, confidence and trust that God seeks. Our actions may not make us popular, nor ensure life with the in-crowd. They will not assure us a life free of ridicule, but they will assure us of something much better: God’s pleasure and joy in standing with us as we stand in solidarity and community with others. And no one can be braver than the one following God, living the way Jesus did.
 
 
Discussion: What are you afraid of? How might your fear give birth to faithful action?
 
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The future . . . I am afraid that it will hold something I can't handle.  I am afraid it will hold something someone I love can't handle.  Faithful Action - I try and remember the saying "Lord, help me to remember that nothing is going to happen today that you and I can't handle together." This works well for me, but when I think of a specific loved one, and her care when I am gone, I have a harder time not being fearful - for her.  I try to hold her in the same space and care of God that I hold myself, but it isn't easy.  My fear can give birth to faithful action by not giving into it . . . but rather holding and proclaiming trust in God to be there.

 

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Since a powerful experience when I was 18 — it felt like a flying apart (or being pulled apart) into the universe and a re-formation of around the changed core of my self (I describe it in my profile) — I've had neither fears nor nightmares.

It wasn't something I understood as "religious" at the time (I was an atheist) but it has been fairly central to my growth into "Christianity" so fear has no place in my faith. Rather the empowerment of faith, for me, arises from the inimacy I feel with a constantly moving, changing, ductile, fluid, unprectable universe and the place of others within that. So few enjoy the "ride", so many are damaged by others who fear the inescapable changes of which the privilege of consciousness makes us aware. 

It's fear, I think, that drives most impulses of possession, of control, of selfishness, of competitiveness, of self-image and identity management… it's that existential fear of impermanence and unpedictability that impels so much squabbling among us.

So I feel I've been gifted to try to quieten fears I find around me… I tend to see that as my faith in action. And Christianity gives so many assurances that should help us to embrace the mysteries of a consciousnes that's been released in an amazing, thrilling, beautiful torrent of existence: we should be at play in its midst, not huddling in fright. Each of us has our own unique experience of it all and our own unique purpose in the ways we can live and journey here FOR each other, not DESPITE each other. 

We're like plants in our growing, blooming, bearing fruit and dying… but, like porpoises and antelope, we can run, chase, play and dance. And we have minds, intellects, intelligence and languages that that we MUST apply to existence as a vital responsibility. And we mustn't let fear turn us into shade and safety-seeking creatures like moles.

 

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Day 14: Thursday | Messengers
 
"A voice cries out: “In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.”  Isaiah 40:3
 
In Eastern iconography, John the Baptist, the ragged prophet of the wilderness, is often shown with wings. This strange artistic convention is meant to illustrate his vocation as angelos, which means “a messenger” or “one who is sent.”
 
This verse from Isaiah about the voice crying in the wilderness is applied to John by all four of the gospel writers. John the Baptist is the one who is sent by God to make a way for the coming of Jesus. What does it mean to be sent to “prepare the way of the Lord” as John did?
 
The divine messenger urges us to “make straight in the desert a highway.” (Think of the Trans-Canada Highway, especially over the prairies of Saskatchewan where it is laid out in a long, straight line.) John the Baptist came to make a highway for God, to prepare the heart of humanity for God’s life in our midst. John rolled out the red carpet with a message: God was about to move into the neighbourhood, and John wanted all to be ready.
 
Just like John, we are called to be preparers of the way in today’s wilderness, voices crying out for God who is living even in our parched, desert landscapes. And remembering that Jesus said “I go to prepare a place for you,” we, like John the Baptist, have wings!
 
Discussion: Name one practical way you can “prepare a way” for God in your community today.
 
 

 

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I'm working on a nine-month cross-cultural Christmas project I hope — we hope — will help our community find a refreshed engagement with the Christmas story and season… and rekindle hope and energy in our lives. (I'll post photos when it happens…)

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The following are some of the lyrics to Steve Bell's song "Kindness" on his "Kindness" CD - words are by Brian McLaren.

 

Christ has no body here but ours
No hands no feet here on earth but ours.
Ours are the eyes through which he looks
On this world with kindness

Ours are the hands through which he works
Ours are the feet on which he moves
Ours are the voices through which he speaks
To this world with kindness

Through our touch, our smile, our listening ear
Embodied in us, Jesus is living here

 

Practical way to prepare a way for God in my community - through love . . . and carrying out the love in action.

 

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I think we can pave a way by living a fruilful life in God and letting others see that we walk with God. Perhaps someone will ask why and you will be able to discuss it.

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I want very much to help take our congregation out into the community we serve. There is a high school just down the road. Hundreds of kids pass the church daily on the way to a plaza. A few years ago, we had a very popular biweekly lunch (soup & stuff) with a discussion led by our past youth leader (not 'church'-y, but current events, ethical issues that were bothering the kids, etc.). We currently have a part-time youth leader who would not be the right person to lead this. I'd really like to find the right group to help me to re-establish that lunch series. This would prepare a way for Godde in our neighbourhood.

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Day 15: Friday | I Remember What Hope Is

 

 
"For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord."  Romans 8:38–39
 
Prayer
 
Holy God,
fill us with hope,
help us dwell in your love.
Be with us, always,
holding and protecting us.
We need your compassion,
care, and support.
Stir in us loving feelings and hope.
No matter how rough the trail may be,
may we know that you are guiding us.
In Jesus’ name,
Amen.
 
Discussion: What is hope? How do you see it acting in your own life?

 

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Hope looks reality straight in the eye and dares to think that things can change. It is the cutting edge for a change to occur in our heart and the knowledge that we do not have to stay in the realm of dispair. Hope is not a childish optimism that disregards the grave circumstances that surround us, but rather acknowledges the facts while searching for the light that will lead us out of it.

 

Whenever I feel compelled to dwell and remain in an overwhelming grief there is only one word that can pull me out......hope, which is often synonomous with trust. I trust that I am not meant to remain in dispair and that while God may require me to walk through the valley, He does not want me to remain there.

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Day 16: Saturday | Hidden and Revealed
 
"He went to the synagogue on the sabbath day, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll…" Luke 4:16–17
 
In Jesus’ day, the scroll was a special piece of skin or parchment on which was inscribed the story of God’s being present to the prophets. That presence has been with all the saints of the ages, and we know that same presence is with us daily.
 
A scroll is read by continually unrolling and re-rolling it from one spindle to the other. It is unrolled a little each time it is read at worship. Only a small part of the story is visible at any one time. The story or verses that lie between the two spindles is the only part open to the reader. One side has been read and is hidden again; the other side has yet to be unwound and revealed.
 
Life is like that isn’t it? It is hidden and revealed, known and unknown, open and closed. The past is known, but it is closed. We cannot change what has happened. We can only learn from the reading of that experience. The future is not yet known, still hidden from our eyes. Each day, then, is like the part that the reader can see and is appointed to read—only that part. Each day is a brief story, lived as one central page in the long story of a life. As we live out the present moment, we can read and experience it with hope and trust.
 
One page of the scroll does not contain the whole of the story of God and the people who followed God’s will. Our stories cannot be understood in a single moment either. As the days of our lives unroll, they are filled with joy and laughter, sorrow and pain. Parts of our story are hard to understand and even threatening. Other parts are filled with hope and peace. For as human beings we live out our time on earth in both confidence and fear. In a sense, at every moment, we live on the mountaintop, in the level plain, and in the valley of shadows.
 
When the last “page” of a scroll is read, it is closed and only the beginning is visible. The moment we close our eyes for the last time, the last page of our scroll disappears around the spindle, but it is also the moment our Life begins.
Hidden until revealed by God… Thanks be to God.
 
 
Discussion: How might the metaphor of a scroll, rolled and unrolled, help you to understand your life and your life yet to be?
 

 

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A scroll certainly has metaphorical value. It's a fascination that pre-dates writing:

viz. Spiral "scroll" forms cut into stone at Newgrange (Neolitihc) more than 5,000 years ago… many, many early peoples made such designs… 

 

Llife's not one narrative, but scores of interwoven narratives, bound together and interacting together; some fade and later strengthen, few (rarely the most interesting) last the whole distance. The past is most certainly not closed to us… it lives on wirhin us and can be formed one way or another, like a lump of clay on the postter's wheel, or the diversion of a river… life's an indivisible flow, it does not stop, it is not segmented.

 

One of our life’s narratives seldom develops without also engaging most of the rest. Life is largely played out in metaphysical experience where narrative clarity is elusive; with no simple, direct cause-and-effect, action-consequence relationships. Fulfillment is often partial or qualified; multiple causes produce whole sets of direct effects, as do single causes.

 

Life has warps and wefts but they can exchange places. Life has less logic to it that we’d like. In large ways we’re undiscerning, foibles-ridden creatures of incomprehension; we rarely see our own greatest accomplishments, our failures, our insights or blind spots, far less those of others. Most of what we “know” is we think best suits us, rather than it is the fruit of deep open-ness to experience. We are as good at blatant denial as we are of humble acceptance… but future and past can and do interact in the life of a soul.

 

The ancients expressed this in scroll-like spirals and labyrinths

 

So a scroll: a scroll rolled, perhaps, in the form of multiply-spliced Orowan loops and Moebius strips?… or more like this:

trna mollecule: helical stacking

 

koru swirls

Unfolding fern frond forms

 

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18th century Maori facial tattoo

 

 

New Zealand's unofficial "koru" flag.

 

… interesting question.

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