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horror in Egypt

damn the imperialist West for causing this.  damn us all:

"CAIRO — Egypt's state prosecutors issued an arrest warrant Saturday for a popular television satirist for allegedly insulting Islam and the country's president, in the latest legal action to take aim at a critic of the nation's Islamist leader.

The warrant against Bassem Youssef is also the latest in a series of legal actions against the comedian, who has come to be known as Egypt's Jon Stewart. Youssef's widely-watched weekly show, "ElBernameg" or The Program, has become a platform for lampooning the government, opposition, media and clerics.

The fast-paced show has attracted a wide viewership, but has also earned itself its fair share of detractors. Youssef has been a frequent target of lawsuits, most of them brought by Islamist lawyers who have accused him of "corrupting morals" or violating "religious principles."

The comedian has faced several court cases in the past, also accusing him of insulting President Mohammed Morsi. One of Youssef's attorneys, Gamal Eid, said this is the first time an arrest warrant has been issued for the comedian.

In a post on his official Twitter account, Youssef said he will hand himself in to the prosecutor's office Sunday. He then added, with his typical sarcasm: "Unless they kindly send a police van today and save me the transportation hassle."

Eid said the warrant fits into a widening campaign against government critics, media personalities, and activists.

"The prosecution has become a tool to go after the regime's opposition and intimidate it," Eid said.

A call to a top aide to the country's chief prosecutor, Hassan Yassin, for comment went unanswered.

Opposition figures have expressed concerns about freedom of expression and assembly for what they call a crackdown on dissent at a time of deep polarization in Egypt's politics.

The political standoff pits Morsi, a Brotherhood veteran, and his Islamist allies in one camp against a mostly secular and liberal opposition backed by moderate Muslims, minority Christians and a large segment of women in the other.

The opposition charges that Morsi and the Brotherhood have failed to tackle any of the nation's most pressing problems and are trying to monopolize power, and breaking promises of inclusiveness. Morsi blames the country's woes on nearly three decades of corruption under his predecessor, Hosni Mubarak, and accuses the opposition of stoking unrest for political gain.

On Monday, Egypt's top state prosecutor, Talaat Abdullah, issued arrest warrants for five of Egypt's most prominent democracy advocates and activists over allegations that they instigated violence last week near the Brotherhood's headquarters in Cairo.

It was one of the worst bouts of violence in months, where nearly 200 people were injured in clashes between anti-government protesters and supporters of the Brotherhood, from which Morsi hails.

Morsi harshly criticized his opponents, calling them hired thugs out to derail Egypt's democracy. The Brotherhood also blamed privately-owned media for fanning the violence.

The criticism was followed by a two-day protest by dozens of Islamists outside the studios of TVnetworks critical of Morsi. The Islamist protesters pelted police and prevented some talk show hosts and guests from going in and out of the complex west of Cairo.

The New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists said the escalation of anti-press "rhetoric" by Morsi and his supporters and the sit-in outside the media city were "deeply troubling."

The series of prosecutions and arrest warrants come amid a legal challenge to the general prosecutor, whose appointment by Morsi last year was declared void by a court ruling earlier this week.

On Saturday, Egypt's chief prosecutor Talaat Abdullah said he will appeal the court ruling, saying it is "in violation of the constitution and the law," Egypt's state news agency reported. The decision signals a protracted legal battle is likely to ensue, further confusing the legal scene in Egypt.

Already some, including members of the journalist union, have declared they no longer recognize the legitimacy of the prosecutor's decision.

Also on Saturday, an Egyptian rights group said police detained 13 people, including five lawyers, and accused them of assaulting police in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria, Egypt's second-largest city.

The arrests inside the police station mark a rare instance in which lawyers face potential criminal charges.

The Haqanya Center for Rights said the 13 are accused of insulting security officials, attempting to free other detainees held at the police station, and illegal assembly.

The arrests prompted an angry response from lawyers at Cairo's Bar Association, who demanded an apology from the police.

Mohammed Abdel-Aziz, an attorney, said the lawyers and activists were beaten and assaulted at the station, where they had been since Friday to represent three opposition members reportedly arrested by members of a political party affiliated with Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood who handed them to the police."

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The egos of Europeans and North Americans seem to be so huge, that we are incapable of imagining that we might be wrong or that what seems good for us might not be good for others. 

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This is what often happens when religion is put into political power: It makes criticism and mockery of the religion illegal. Religion can't win a debate, but it sure can beat and imprison people, and then it can declare it won the debate!

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Jim Kenney wrote:

The egos of Europeans and North Americans seem to be so huge, that we are incapable of imagining that we might be wrong or that what seems good for us might not be good for others. 

 

isn't there a bit in the Bibble aboot that, that the World would reject the Word?

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chansen wrote:
This is what often happens when religion is put into political power: It makes criticism and mockery of the religion illegal. Religion can't win a debate, but it sure can beat and imprison people, and then it can declare it won the debate!

 

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chansen wrote:
This is what often happens when religion is put into political power: It makes criticism and mockery of the religion illegal. Religion can't win a debate, but it sure can beat and imprison people, and then it can declare it won the debate!

 

Both religion and democracy loses when this happens. Control freaks go wild, and I suspect/hope that in time, as people have time to organise other options may appear. I suspect this will both split and reduce the Islamist parties vote. 

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Even atheists commonly have a religion. And commonly, it's as whacky as the worst of them. In the US, the dominant religion isn't Christianity. It's patriotism, with holy writ enshrined in the constitution and those white-washing epistles that Americans call history books.

Essentially, two things are happening in Africa.

One is the we are seeing the Moslem world being driven to extremes after more than a century of western bullying. In the process, Islam has become profoundly divided.

The other is that the US, Britain and France are exploiting those divisions to create chaos. Their purpose is to recapture the empires that were lost after World War II, with the US taking the lion's share.

There is no thought of spreading democracy. Indeed, democracy is the last thing in the world they want to see. No. They are provoking civil conflict to break up countries into smaller and weaker units. They want the resources of the middle east and Africa, and they want weak opposition - and they want to keep China and Russia out. That's what Syria is all about. And the US and Britain and France have been up to their ears in that war - even before it actually started.

We are watching a new pillaging of Africa, fully as brutal and murderous as that of Belgium in the Congo.

And it's all wrapped up in the sanctity of the American religion of unthinking patriotism - with many churches being more patriotic than Christian.

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damn the imperialist West for forcing and causing these Egyptian statistics (or "man, i love BS"):

 

82% of Egyptians polled said adulterers should be stoned

 

84% said that apostates from Islam should face the death penalty

 

77 % agreed that thieves should be flogged or have their hands cut off

 

source:  Pew Global Attitudes Muslim Report 2010

(so, before the Egypt riots)

 

Lots of interesting nuanced stuff, there, goodbadbizarre, for folks here to digest...Egypt seems to be a fringe country of all the Muslim countries...

 

graeme, keep on keepin on :3  i hope you make even more videos...

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Think hard,   Inanna. Your statistics have nothing to do with what I said.

Think really hard. If those statistics indicate that the fault is all with Egypt, then why wasn't that behaviour standard a century ago.

And while you're thinking, you might wonder what percentage of Americans approve of the death penatly. of killing civilians in the course of a war, in killing moslems randomly, in invading other countries and killing innocent people in order to steal their oil, etc.

Or that americans have the right to invade any country they like, any time they like, kill as many vietnamese and Guatemalans and Iraqis and Afghanis as they like. And to splatter whole cities with nuclear bombs if they like.  Both Christians and Moslems, I'm afraid, have a tendency to act like people.

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graeme,

 

i wasn't talking to you except for the last sentence :3

 

so sorry for the confusion

 

 

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well, I find that videos don't show me to be nearly as handsome as I'm quite sure i must be. They also make me look old for a man of thirty.

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Graeme, how do you account for war, slavery, oppression, etc, that took place before the time of Euopean colonialism? Say, for example, before the Roman Empire. Or perhaps you think everyone lived in brotherly love back then.

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graeme wrote:

Even atheists commonly have a religion. And commonly, it's as whacky as the worst of them. In the US, the dominant religion isn't Christianity. It's patriotism, with holy writ enshrined in the constitution and those white-washing epistles that Americans call history books.

Essentially, two things are happening in Africa.

One is the we are seeing the Moslem world being driven to extremes after more than a century of western bullying. In the process, Islam has become profoundly divided.

The other is that the US, Britain and France are exploiting those divisions to create chaos. Their purpose is to recapture the empires that were lost after World War II, with the US taking the lion's share.

There is no thought of spreading democracy. Indeed, democracy is the last thing in the world they want to see. No. They are provoking civil conflict to break up countries into smaller and weaker units. They want the resources of the middle east and Africa, and they want weak opposition - and they want to keep China and Russia out. That's what Syria is all about. And the US and Britain and France have been up to their ears in that war - even before it actually started.

We are watching a new pillaging of Africa, fully as brutal and murderous as that of Belgium in the Congo.

And it's all wrapped up in the sanctity of the American religion of unthinking patriotism - with many churches being more patriotic than Christian.

I don't think bullying has anything to do with the Moslem world being extreme or divided.  I think there are non extreme people who follow Islam, but are afraid to speak out due to fear of retaliation.  Radical Islam is doing the dividing. 

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