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ITCCS RE: The Fall Of A Pope

Hello all! I haven't posted anything here in a very long time but I do pop in every now and then to see what's going on.
I have been looking at the web site for the International Tribunal Into Crimes Of Church and State (itccs.org) so I came here to see if there was any mention of it.
To my surprise there is a thread (the Fall of a Pope) that discusses a related topic. I will be honest, I haven't read that entire thread (it seems a lot of people have a lot to say about this one). But I wanted to get your thoughts on this particular web site.

So check it out: itccs.org

Tell me what you think.
Do you think this Tribunal will amount to anything?
I saw in the fall of a pope thread that a judge from the UN has something to do with this, does any one know if there are other relations to the UN involved?

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At a quick look I would say that this organization has little to no official standing or jurisdiction and is little more than a publicity play.

 

And for many people in Canada (particualrly the UCCan as well as a few First Nations groups who have been burned by him) the inclusion of Kevin Annett is a big publicity gaffe.

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Hi Audj,

 

Audj wrote:

Tell me what you think.

 

I find it very telling that when one goes to the Tribunal Members link that the only member listed is Kevin Annett.

 

Audj wrote:

Do you think this Tribunal will amount to anything?

 

About as much as any other tribunal Mr. Annett has been involved or attached to.

 

Audj wrote:

I saw in the fall of a pope thread that a judge from the UN has something to do with this, does any one know if there are other relations to the UN involved?

 

I suspect that any connection/relation is purely coincidental and/or fabricated.

 

For more on Kevin Annett from a United Church perspective I invite you to the following link:

http://www.united-church.ca/aboriginal/schools/statements/annett

 

The following link will take you to a list of letters concerning Mr. Annett as well as the findings of the Formal Hearing Panel which ultimately recommended that Mr. Annett be placed on the Discontinued Service List of The United Church of Canada.

http://www.bc.united-church.ca/content/kevin-annett

 

The man is neither credible nor trustworthy.

 

Grace and peace to you.

John

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It is interesting how some people will link to real events to make their conspiracy theroies more credible, 

 

The problem with conspiracy theories is that they detract form the real issues that are  out in the open. This is becasue they one they distract from actual things that can be addressed. This actually harms people. For example the 9/11 conspiracy actually distracts away from what really needs to be addressed like  Colonialism, and the way western countries openly interfer or wage war in Asia, Africa, and South America.  

 

Likewise with claims of conspiracy around the history of child abuse. Whether it is Satanic abuse theories, or the above one, it actually causes harms to children and survivors becasue it leads people away from the truth which is out in the open, or at least coming out in the open. 

 

In the thread "the Fall of the Pope" there are posts about sociopathy and narcississim, in which these theories help explain how people can abuse and harm children. (and others)  Among the many characteristics of sociopaths and Narcississtic is the ease with which they lie. 

 

Creating (lieing) and spreading conspiracies revictimises survivors, and enables the abuse to go on. If you read further on this conspiracies and the many posts concerning it (I have as these claims show up from time to time in my research for "the fall of the Pope" ) you will see the person behind them fits all the crieteria of Narcississtism, or sociopathy.

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Since Gary Paterson was elected moderator, Kevin Arnett has been all over the net making claims that the moderator is part of a "Star Chamber" This according to him is a group of Judges, and lawyers in Vancouver that he says kidnapps and rapes children. 

 

The  way he makes his claim is by putting it in others peoples mouth. i.e. Other people say, or other people claim he says. Yet the only references to this is Kevin Arnetts (and what appears to be his many sock puppets) hundreds of posts,  This actually shows how people who fit the theory of NPD or sociopathy are not suffering a mentall illness because they lucid enough to take steps to coverup reponsibility for their claims.   

 

At the same time kevin tears down others with false attributions he says others have made,  he  builds himself up with many false attributions to be a great man. Ie he quotes Chomsky as saying that Kevin Arnett deserves the Noble Peace Prize.  This alone shows how he fits the theory of socipathy. 

 

While child abuse is  an example of how sociopathy, and functional sociopathy (as in institutional thinking that leads to it;s coverup)  works, it can also work min way that are much more damaging.

 

Exposing and openly talking about what they have done as the UCC has done with Arnett is an effective way of limitng there damage. 

 

Denying they exist, or refusing to believe that people can be like this or moving them around as many Bishops have done is the wrong way, and leads to further harm.

 

This type of behavoiur and claims  

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revjohn wrote:

Hi Audj,

 

 

Audj wrote:

I saw in the fall of a pope thread that a judge from the UN has something to do with this, does any one know if there are other relations to the UN involved?

 

I suspect that any connection/relation is purely coincidental and/or fabricated.

 

 

I believe he is referring to Geoffrey Robertson who is a respected lawyer, and judge, who speaks his truth to power. While Arnetts speaks lies, which actually only harms survivors, and their real allies.

Until 2007 he sat as an appeal judge at the UN Special Court for Sierra Leone....

 

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In his 2010 book, The Case of the Pope, Robertson claims that Pope Benedict XVI is guilty of protecting paedophiles because the church swore the victims to secrecy and moved perpetrators inCatholic sex abuse cases to other positions where they had access to children while knowing the perpetrators were likely to reoffend.[22] This, Robertson believes, constitutes the crime of assisting underage sex and when he was still Cardinal Ratzinger, the present pope approved this policy up to November 2002. In Robertson's opinion, the Vatican is not a sovereign state and the pope is not immune to prosecution

 

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GordW wrote:

At a quick look I would say that this organization has little to no official standing or jurisdiction and is little more than a publicity play.

 

And for many people in Canada (particualrly the UCCan as well as a few First Nations groups who have been burned by him) the inclusion of Kevin Annett is a big publicity gaffe.

 

Actually the ictss is a fictitous organisation, Whenevr a person or a web sites includes in their first words a lie, you can be assured evrything else that follows is a lie, any truths that do follow are only being used to confuse, and to lend an air of credibility to the lies.

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