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mass die offs recently

last week it was 5000 blackbirds, this week, 2 million fish.  what do you make of it.  conspiracy theorists/enviromentalists/scientists/doomsday"ists", have at it:

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Five thousand dead blackbirds rained from the sky on the first day of the New Year in Arkansas. Then more dead birds fell in other states. Then huge fish kills were discovered in multiple US waterways.

And suddenly it became a worldwide phenomenon, with reports of mass die-offs of birds and fish in Sweden, Britain, Japan, Thailand, Brazil and beyond.

Doves, jellyfish, snapper, jackdaws... it seemed no species was immune.

Conspiracy theorists, doomsdayers and religious extremists warned that the end was nigh.

Could it be astronauts testing a potent sound beam to ward off aliens? The US military experimenting with satellite-powered energy weapons?

What about chemical sprays, meteor showers, or earthquakes activating pollutants from the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?

"Birds" surged to the most searched term on The New York Times website.

Religious bloggers loaded their sites with Bible verse, Hosea 4:1-3: "The land dries up, and all who live in it waste away; the beasts of the field, the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea are swept away."

But as speculation roiled the blogosphere, wildlife experts rolled their eyes.

"It is not that unusual," said Kristen Schuler, scientist at the US Geological Survey's National Wildlife Center.

"There is nothing apocalyptic or anything that is necessarily out of the ordinary for what we would see in any given week."

Regarding the bird deaths in Arkansas, where the local custom is to set off fireworks to mark New Year's Eve, officials determined it was likely that the noise set off a deadly bird panic.

"It appears unusually loud noises, reported shortly before the birds began to fall, caused the birds to flush from a roost," the USGS National Wildlife Health Center said in a statement posted on the Arkansas Fish and Game Commission website.

"Additional fireworks in the area may have forced the birds to fly at a lower altitude than normal and hit houses, vehicles, trees and other objects. Blackbirds have poor night vision and typically do not fly at night."

In Louisiana, Schuler said it looked like cold weather might have killed off about 500 birds.

Meanwhile in Maryland, locals were spooked by reports of some two million dead fish in the Chesapeake Bay.

But officials were quick to assuage those concerns, saying the deaths were a result of an unusual cold snap, combined with an overpopulation of a species known as spot fish.

"Natural causes appear to be the reason for the deaths of the fish," said a statement by the Maryland Department of the Environment.

"Spot may have difficulty surviving in colder temperatures, and the species? susceptibility to winter kills is well-documented," it said, noting that surface water temperatures last month were the coldest in 25 years.

As for the bird and fish deaths elsewhere in the world, many were still under investigation.

According to the National Wildlife Federation's Doug Inkley, the most frequent cause of mass death in birds is disease, though pollution and "just plain accidents" can also trigger large scale die-offs. Often, people just are not aware of them.

"Most of the time these areas are not near human habitation such as in forests or in the woods," he said on CNN.

But in today's Internet Age, when hardly anything remains secret, word of unusual bird deaths has spread with unparalleled speed.

"In 1960 if a bunch of birds started falling from the sky it may have been noticed by some people. It may have gotten reported in the local paper, but it may never have gotten any further than that," said Robert Thompson, professor of pop culture at Syracuse University.

"Now some of these kinds of stories, because they get out there on the Internet, if they are compelling enough they can immediately make this jump to national news," he said.

"Let's face it, big quantities of birds falling from the sky or fish going belly up is a pretty compelling story."

 

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   Magnetic fields can affect animals particularly birds.  They can also affect fish.

  

  These die-off are a symptom of a pole shift and possibily a pre-curser to not just a shift (the poles have been shifting a few km each year for years) but a complete flip.  Something that happens every few hundreds of years and we're over due for. 

 

  Survival guides can be found using google.

 

  How do I know all this?  I just read it on the internet so it must be true.  :) 

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pole shifts.  hmmm.  could that explain my splitting headache?  does that mean that i should buy a bikini before all the nice ones are taken?  where will santa go? see all these questions you've sparked jadespring.  did i just derail my own thread?

 

i've read all sorts of interesting "opinions" about this story on the internet *lol*  mostly doomsdayers and conspiracy theorists....

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  Well I figure that if it is an indicator of a pole flip, there isn't much actually not anything to stop it so it's not something to worry about.   Just a matter of going with the flow...

 

  I looked a couple of the survival guides and a lot of suggestions of where the best places to move to in order to survive.  They all say different things......    :( 

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china is saying poll shift.  *checks out jadespring's survival guide link* ;)

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My family was talking about the movie, "The Core" - which of course, NASA has pooh-poohed.  It starts with a pile of birds dropping out of the sky thanks to the >>>(insert bad science)>>> core of the earth stopping spinning.  OK whatever, but I couldn't help but think that this many creatures - crabs, fish, birds, more birds, more fish etc in so many countries (New Zealand, Sweden, UK,) and various states - Arkansas, Maryland etc...   CRAZY.  definitely creepy.

 

But the people in power have enough champagne, they don't need to wander outside and see what is happening to the earth.  They're content for a few years to ignore it.

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I don't bite on conspiracy theories, doomsday, etc. but I also don't buy that "it's nothing unusual".  Definitely something, imo. 

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i've read this a few times now.  where's wikileaks when you need it?

 

 

A shocking report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) states that one of the United States top experts in biological and chemical weapons was brutally murdered after he threatened to expose a US Military test of poison gas that killed hundreds of thousands of animals in Arkansas this past week.
According to this report, John P. Wheeler III, Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. from 2005-2008, when he became the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Environment, was found brutally murdered and dumped in a landfill, and as we can read as reported by Fox News.Wheeler’s military career included writing one of the most important manuals on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons which led to his being hired in 2009 as a consultant to the Mitre Corporation, whose aviation system development department, the GRU reports, is at the forefront of creating the computer command and control systems used by the US Air Force in their fleet of aerial spraying planes.
These aerial spraying planes, this report continues, are based at the Little Rock Air Force Base in Arkansas that over the past few months have been involved with ‘test dispersants’ of poisonous gasses in the Afghanistan War Theater using chemical weapons stocks obtained from Iraq and held at the Pine Bluff Arsenal, also located in Arkansas.mportant to note about the Pine Bluff Arsenal, which calls itself “America’s Arsenal”, is that it is one of the World’s most specialized munitions and chemical-biological defense products and services bases which Russia had previously accused of not fully reporting the chemical agents removed from Iraq, between 2003 and 2008, and taken to the US for testing and subsequent destruction.
According to this report, the US relocated from Iraq to the Pine Bluff Arsenal an estimated 63,000 metric tonnes of the poisonous gas Phosgene that is described as one of the most feared chemical weapons ever used due to its ability to literally cause the lungs and respiratory system to explode.
Nearly immediately after Russia accused the US this past summer of not fully destroying Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stockpile the Pine Bluff Arsenal began an ‘accelerated’ disposal programme injecting it deep into the ground in central Arkansas, but which, unfortunately, since this past September, has caused over 500 minor earthquakes to occur raising the concerns of their local population.
More frightening, however, is the claim made in this report that the Americans have also begun shipping ‘massive quantities’ of Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stocks to Afghanistan where when used they will be able to say they had nothing to do with it, and believe no one will be able to prove it.

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i highly suspect this isn't nature either.  i think someone somewhere has some 'splaynin to do!

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where did you get this?  I'm with abpenny- leery of conspiracy theories, but certainly not unaware that we don't get told the whole truth.

 

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i'll track down the link.

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Are the frogs dying? That's supposed to be a REALLY bad sign.

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I just walked down to the barn and there are LOTS of honeybees dead on the snow.  I called the beekeeper, but they are away.  It was up to 5 above yesterday but I've never seen this in the 25 years he's had beeboxes here.  I'll be really interested to hear what he says??

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The newspaper had a big article about bumblebees too...

 

Canary in the coalmine-  I think we're way past that.

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Abpenny - my sweetie jsut said his friend who is a prolific beekeeper out here in Ontario said that is fairly common for bees.   They get tricked by the warmer weather but cant' handle it yet.  He didn't bat an eye at it.   

 

...makes me wonder... how are the bats?

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I doubt it's a conspiracy, but one website is calling it 'Aflockalypse Now'  We may never know but, apparently, such events are not uncommon.

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Birthstone wrote:

Abpenny - my sweetie jsut said his friend who is a prolific beekeeper out here in Ontario said that is fairly common for bees.   They get tricked by the warmer weather but cant' handle it yet.  He didn't bat an eye at it.   

 

...makes me wonder... how are the bats?

 

 It the east, not doing well and they haven't been for some time now.   There's been problems for a few years now with white nose syndrome.  Masses of the them are dying in while hibernating in their 'caves'.  In some cases showing up to 95% die-off.   Last I read (haven't looked for a while)  about it (I first became aware a few years ago) it was still spreading and is predicted to move up into Canada and  that researchers have figured out that it is some sort of fungal disease.   However determining why it's attacking them now and in such great numbers is still a question as well as if there anything that could be done to stop it. 

 

Losing the bats or the this number of bats entirely will change the overall eco-system in ways that I don't think most would imagine.   If I remember correctly it's estimated in the Eastern US bats consume over 4 billion insects per night, mosquitos, moths,  and others that fly around.   Birds and other smaller animals take care of it during the day but at night it's bats.    Without bats  the insect numbers will shoot up exponentially. More insects breed more insects.  The balance or at least what we know as the balance will be quite different.  

 

This issue while having got some press does not get much widespread coverage.  Bats just aren't that sexy, aren't liked that much and are one of those things that is more out of sight and mind.    Thankfully researchers see it and the seriousnous of it to the point of putting together a huge group of multi-discipline people togeher to try to figure it out.    In that world it's one of the most pressing issues of the current day.  

 

I was at a Christmas party a talked to a women who runs an ecological education center.  In this role she talks to a lot of sciencey people.  When we were talking of bats she said she had just been talking to a bat biologist and he said the outlook is very dim.   

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the fungal disease could be a temperature/humidity related thing actually, since fungal infections are worse in higher humidity & moderately warm temps.  I'd bet if the airflow has changed around a nesting area, or the temp has gone up, that might be related to climate change.  It might also be an overcrowding thing too, but I don't know that much.

And we won't see the mass-die-offs if it happens inside where humans fear to tread.

 

Yesterday it was turtledoves in Italy, added to the list under the title Aflockalypse Now, as mentioned above.  Considered strange as well by the ecologists of the region.

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Thanks birthstone...good to know!

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Speaking of bats...

 

The Mass Animal Deaths Google Map marks 70 dead ones in Arizona

 

 

This map is kind of interesting but if I was an American I would be getting a little worried.

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Maybe it's a "Crock-of-blip" now?

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 H.A.A.R.P.

 

 

As-salaamu alaikum

-Omni

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Somebody let the idiots out again...

 

 

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not war/famine/murder/greed/corruption/etc, but homosexuality.  interesting.  that's really taking "the birds and the bees" to new levels. sorry, i couldn't resist. 

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The_Omnissiah wrote:

 H.A.A.R.P.

 

 

As-salaamu alaikum

-Omni

 

is haarp real or a conspiracy theory?

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Chansen, 28 seconds into that video my computer froze up and wouldn't play it - hmm, message from a higher power perhaps....

 

 

LB


A coincidence! ... The odds are enormous against its being coincidence.

     Arthur Conan Doyle,  The Return of Sherlock Holmes

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Probably.  It couldn't be that Flash is a notorious resource hog.

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Jadespring wrote:

  Well I figure that if it is an indicator of a pole flip, there isn't much actually not anything to stop it so it's not something to worry about.   Just a matter of going with the flow...

 

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