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Sell The Vatican, Feed The World

Sarah Silverman has started a campaign to end world hunger!

 

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Interesting idea Alex. Although I think it would take a little more than that to feed all of the hungry. Seriously if all the Christian churches were to sell their buildings and pool all the money from the sale to feed the poor then I think it could be possible.  According to the stats there are about a billion people who claim to be Christians. If the majority of Christians were serious about making poverty history then I think it could happen, but the sad fact is it isn't one of the top priorities for a lot of religious people IMO.

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I have a better idea - sell the Pentagon and all ministries of defense.

 

LB


Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace.     Charles Sumner

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Wow, what a disgusting woman. 

Sounds like you've had lots of experience with those ....

Did you have your sense of humour surgically removed ?

Why not sell Buckingham Palace too !!!! now there is a bunch of people who do nothing than suck oxygen and not just those hobos.

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jesou, if her routine was about Jews or Blacks, you might feel differently, but since it is about Catholics, she gets a free pass.  One's good judgement should not be suspended because one doesn't like the group being attacked.

 

As much as I like Michael Richards, I found his infamous diatribe last year against black people to be extremely offensive.  Perhaps he would have had less trouble with the fans and the press if he had gone after Catholics, which seems to be a team sport in this forum.

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jesou, if her routine was about Jews or Blacks, you might feel differently.

Really what would I feel ? Guilty ?

You might be shocked .... or maybe not !!!

She's a comedian ..... comedians are always offensive ....

Eff em if they can't take a joke

Since when is any minority so freaking special that you cannot "offend" them ?

Anybody who says they are NOT prejudiced is a LIAR !!!

 

 

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Actually she's done blacks, and homeless people.

 

No martyr points this time DG, sorry.

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Call me a liar.  I do find the open season on Catholics in this forum to be very revealing, 

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Revealing LOL where have you been hibernating

Surely you've been swept up in the Dan Brown virus of lately ....

I'm ex Catholic and looking back those people were crazyyyyyyyy !!!

 

 

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jesouhaite777 wrote:

Revealing LOL where have you been hibernating

Surely you've been swept up in the Dan Brown virus of lately ....

I'm ex Catholic and looking back those people were crazyyyyyyyy !!!

 

 

 

I rest my case.

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dreamerman wrote:

  According to the stats there are about a billion people who claim to be Christians.

3.2 billion.

 

As-salaamu alaikum

-Omni

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dreamerman wrote:
Seriously if all the Christian churches were to sell their buildings and pool all the money from the sale to feed the poor then I think it could be possible.

 

That's a wonderful idea. If the United Church goes first, we Baptists will follow.

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The video isn't an attack on Catholics, it is an attack on churches letting "stuff" get in the way of feeding the world.  I suspect many Catholics would think it an idea with some merit....

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I think all successful comedians should sell everything they own and give it to the poor.  Sort of put their money where their mouth is.

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GordW wrote:

The video isn't an attack on Catholics, it is an attack on churches letting "stuff" get in the way of feeding the world.  I suspect many Catholics would think it an idea with some merit....

 

I guess you missed the Holocaust reference.

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DonnyGuitar wrote:

Call me a liar.  I do find the open season on Catholics in this forum to be very revealing, 

 

Your delusion that there is any sort of "open season" on Catholics, in this forum, is very revealing. I guess if you can't find persecution, you have to manufacture it.

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 It seems too me this is an attack on western consumers and our self imposed ignorance of the world.

 

First world hunger is a problem because now that Sarah has a 48 inch plasma TV,  the Ads for charities make the starving people look real.   Her problem is not with getting rid of hunger but getting rid of the hungry people on her plasma TV.

 

Her solution is not to help out, but to get someone else to take responsibility.

 

 

How often is tht not we do in the west.

 

It`s so bad, someone else should do something. Never I.

 

Its ver funny and bitting.

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Sell Sarah Silverman.

Better still, sell Israel.

That way you could contribute to world peace while fighting world hunger.

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It seems like some have already sold their sense of humour.

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jesouhaite777 wrote:

 

Anybody who says they are NOT prejudiced is a LIAR !!!

 

 

Prove it.

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Whats really funny is now that her video has been on Youtube for a few days, Google adwords is placing ads for tours of the Vatican and audiences with the Pope on her video.

 

Goes to show you how Google can make mistakes.

 

It was similar when I started accessiblechurch.ca. Originally google was placing it high in searches for people wanting to find out how to get rid of people in their churches, and how to fire ministers.  

 

It sadly turned out that there are more people doing searches on google on how to get rid of people in church, then there are searches of how to include people.

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If nothing else she got some people in the WC to talk a bit about the immensity of the problem of world hunger.  For that I'd thank her, even though I don't find her solution very useful.  Any money received from the sale of the Vatican would soon be spent and the hungry would again be hungry.

 

The suggestion that churches in general sell their assetts might be a bit more effective.  But even that wouldn't solve the problem. 

 

 Possibly it needs everyone in the world who has more than they need to give it to the cause of eradicating hunger.  Can't see it happening though - we tend to like having tv sets, radios, electronic gadgets, vehicles more advanced than bicycles, spare food in fridges and cupboards,  books, cash to pay for holidays, medication, heating and cooling - the list is almost endless.  I can't think of a valid reason that I can have all these things and more but some other people go hungry.  

 

I wish I knew the solution! 

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kay, I don't think that this woman cares about world hunger; she was simply trying to piss off Catholics and have fun at their expense. 

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DonnyGuitar, have you ever passed up an opportunity to take offense to something?

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Prove it.

Because it's human nature ... and you can't fight nature no matter how hard you try you have no control over unconscious thoughts and actions

A lot of prejudice people have is not even obvious

Say when you get on the bus or subway you make a conscious or unconscious decision where you are going to sit and who you are going to sit next to if you can help it .... you brain might direct you to sit near "like" people whether by colour of skin or gender or visually pleasing most of the time you don't even know that you are doing it.

Yes yes yes you are a racist just by saying you're not !!!

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chansen, I take offense at what offends me.  I think her comments on the Catholic Church and the Holocaust were offensive.   Try to imagine a comedian doing a bit about Jews that gave credence to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  Listen again to Michael Richards diatribe about blacks and see if you find it funny.  It is not that she was joking about Catholics but rather the way in which she did this.  There are some pretty nasty undertones.  I don't think that most Catholics would laugh along with her the way most blacks laugh along with Chris Rock when he sends up blackness. 

 

You should also take note of the number of people in this forum who are extremely offended by my opinions.  I get obscenities shouted at me, I get called names, I get ridiculed.  Talk about being offended (not I, them).  I honestly don't give a shit about that;  my usual reaction is just to bail on the conversation because it is rather pointless to try to have a serious discussion with someone who is screaming.  Civil debate is fun.  Getting into pissing matches is not only a waste of time but everyone gets wet and smells.

 

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jes, I am not a racist.

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jes, I am not a racist.

Like it said it's not a conscious thing ...

 

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DonnyGuitar wrote:
You should also take note of the number of people in this forum who are extremely offended by my opinions.  I get obscenities shouted at me, I get called names, I get ridiculed.  Talk about being offended (not I, them).  I honestly don't give a shit about that;  my usual reaction is just to bail on the conversation because it is rather pointless to try to have a serious discussion with someone who is screaming.  Civil debate is fun.  Getting into pissing matches is not only a waste of time but everyone gets wet and smells.

 

You do like to pretend to take the high road don't you DG. Instigate and run.

 

Poooooor persecuted DG

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Well I watched it.

 

For me to be offended would give it far too much credit than it deserves for being in any way intelligent or funny.  To suggest that selling the Vatican and distributing the wealth will end world hunger is pretty moronic but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she really doesn't believe that herself.  She's only using the concept as a way of attacking the church.  To bad she couldn't come up with something better than that. 

 

I rate it D-

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Meredith, I am with you.  There is a lot to criticize in all churches, but anti-Catholicism is still an acceptable sport in Canada and the US (and, unfortunately, in this forum). 

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jesouhaite777 wrote:

Prove it.

Because it's human nature ... and you can't fight nature no matter how hard you try you have no control over unconscious thoughts and actions

A lot of prejudice people have is not even obvious

Say when you get on the bus or subway you make a conscious or unconscious decision where you are going to sit and who you are going to sit next to if you can help it .... you brain might direct you to sit near "like" people whether by colour of skin or gender or visually pleasing most of the time you don't even know that you are doing it.

Yes yes yes you are a racist just by saying you're not !!!

 

Sooooo....you can't prove it then? Just as I thought.

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DonnyGuitar wrote:

Meredith, I am with you.  There is a lot to criticize in all churches, but anti-Catholicism is still an acceptable sport in Canada and the US (and, unfortunately, in this forum). 

 

I hear the UCC has upped the bag and possession limit on Catholics this year. But don't get caught without a tag or you'll have to go to confession.....

 

Yeah, does sound ridiculous, doesn't it.....

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She has a point about one thing, christians are taught to live humbly, by refernce of the bible and a certain someone dressed in a robe with little to no possesions from 2000 years ago.

 

She makes this obvious when saying "You preach to live humbly and i totally agree...move out of your house that is a city ".

 

I mean, how is it that the catholic church amassed the resources to own (okay build) such a thing in the first place and still say it follows its own preaching? Sure its beautiful and helps spread the word, but we all know its just a little fishy to praise the words of jesus from atop a 40 foot building (hey i don't know the measurements)

 

Just one of the reasons I stopped believing in religion in grade 7

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ya know what i notice when i read my own comments, i don't put in as good an argument as i'd like to because it takes so damn long to type everything!

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While I agree more with witch and the others, i think that Donny Guitar has a point when saying its a hit on catholics. (but i still think the video is funny)

 

I mean, its obvious you couldn't feed the world even by selling the vatican, so it does take some direct hits at how the church doesn't practice what it preaches.

 

It also implies how we ourselves are to blame. like someone said before, mentioning the plasma tv sujests (i can't spell) how we are uncomfortable with seeing something altogether uncommon to us, and gives example of the level of consumersism we are at compared to the rest of the world.

 

As some lady sang in a song, "we are weapons of massive consumption"

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DonnyGuitar wrote:
Meredith, I am with you.  There is a lot to criticize in all churches, but anti-Catholicism is still an acceptable sport in Canada and the US (and, unfortunately, in this forum).

I tend to mock all of the Christian denominations.  The Mormons are certainly the weirdest, just above Jehovah's Witnessess.  Baptists make for some of the best straight lines.  Anglicans are Catholic-lite.  But Catholics have amassed the most riches and the biggest hats.  It is virtually impossible not to mock them for some of the same points that Sarah Silverman makes.

 

Satire is a tool to bring the high and mighty down to earth.  Is it any wonder the Catholic Church is satirized as often as it is?

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Sooooo....you can't prove it then? Just as I thought.

Sorry did I use too many big words ? I'll find some nice virgin sized words for you soon .

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No, I guess I just can't seem to find my way through all the crap you spread. My fault really, I shouldn't feed the trolls.

 

Plus, your post really did not address the fact that you could not offer any proof when you wrote that anybody who says they are not prejudiced is a LIAR !!! It was just more.....well, crap.

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Well, I'm not going to comment on all the offended people above me (well this doesn't count), instead I'm going to comnment on the video.

 

I'm a fan of Sarah. She isn't affraid to offend anybody. Why? because she's already offended everybody and gotten away with it! I mean...there are some holes in her plan but what she said in this video is what many people think. Lots of people who see these commercials want the guilt trip to end so that they can go on with their lives and not have to look at the sad hungry faces. All the money that the Church has could feed all of Africa and then she wouldn't need to see those hungry faces and swollen stomachs. If anybody above me thought that this was an actual plan to make the sad people on tv go away is far more than I give the members of this site credit for.

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Selling properties to feed the poor would be useless if there is no food to buy. People can't eat money. (well, I suppose they could eat paper money but I don't think that would be helpful)

If there is to be a serious effort to eliminate starvation there would have to be increased food production in the areas where it is needed.  This would require new solutions such as creating new farmlands in sparsely populated areas that are presently unfit for agriculture. The Antarctic ice caps are a huge source of fresh water while most deserts are in regions with adequate heat and light and no water.  Underground chambers could be built in desert regions which would contain the Antarctic ice and serve as a source of fresh water to support new farms.  The ice could be transported on ships equipped with solar panels and wind turbines to provide power and work crews could be assembled to gather the ice.  I'm convinced that it is technologically possible to do this and the only obstacles are political and economic systems.

The hierarchy of the Catholic church should be criticized but selling their buildings won't make any difference in stopping poverty.

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Wow, everyone. This is SATIRE. It's to make people reflect on the state of the world through humour. It was pretty clear to me that she's not actually taking herself seriously here. It's not a literal plan to sell the Vatican. whew.

 

Thanks for posting Alex, it gave me a laugh anyway. And yes, google does make mistakes like that with words/phrases that can be taken in different ways. My favourite is when links to recipes for Spam and broccoli casserole, etc. when I look in my "spam" folder.

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I think Hamas and Hezbollah should take their monthly rocket budget and use it to feed Palestinians. 

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Now you're getting the creative juices flowing, DonnyG!

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Kappa wrote:

Now you're getting the creative juices flowing, DonnyG!

 

I wondered what that was leaking out.

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DonnyGuitar wrote:

Wow, what a disgusting woman.  This is the kind of thing that makes me want to become a Catholic.

What a disgusting man.  This is the kind of thing that makes droves flee Catholicism - and the Church generally.  Truth hurts, Donny?  And don't wanna help world hunger?    Jealous 'cause the Pope might get (whatever's your kind of) pussy?  Or what?  Either way, ya gotta just looove "BTW... any involvement in the holocauste... bygone", no?

DonnyGuitar wrote:

I do find the open season on Catholics in this forum to be very revealing, 

Ahhh...  Like the open season Catholicism has had on the world for centuries?    Nah...  Nothin' like that at all.  I gather that the RCC is the second biggest land owner in NYC - wouldn't ya want to use all that wealth to help people? Nah... Guess no Catholic does *sigh*...  Let's keep that Church feeeeelthy rich, huh?

LBmuskoka wrote:

I have a better idea - sell the Pentagon and all ministries of defense. ...

Or why not just another idea and sell Church and defence?

Meredith wrote:

...To suggest that selling the Vatican and distributing the wealth will end world hunger is pretty moronic...

Could you elaborate on that a bit, please, Meredith?

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BrettA, oh come on, tell us how you really feel about your fellow citizens (even if they are second-class in your opinion).  Tell us more about this giant monolith you call "the church" (insert echo and scarey music).

 

Since you love bigotry so much, why not post the famous Michael Richards' diatribe against blacks.  Gee that oughta be a real knee slapper!  How about some great jokes about Jews (maybe we could do a comedy musical based on the "Protocols")?  Maybe we could populate a whorehouse with Ms. Silverman as the top lady and use the money to feed the poor. 

 

Gee, all of that would be so funny.

 

You and Ms. Silverman obviously have no clue as to the degree of aid given to people around the world by the RCC.  I am not Catholic, btw, so this is not a partisan position for me.  When you are prepared to get off your fat liberal arse and go into danger zones around the world in order to assist those in need, then maybe you will have something to say.  Until then, you are just another ignorant and uneducated bigoted.

 

There, I feel much better now!  I think I will sign up for the Inquisition.  I think I get to wear a really snappy robe and awesome hat.  I love a good bbq.

 

 

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Well I guess they have to help people to make up for molesting their own people

makes sense ......

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But what if I really really enjoy that ?

Now now don't knock it before you try it ....

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