Am looking at options in this area and personal choice over church belief seems to be what I am hearing to go with, how does faith and reality meet for you on this issue? Is life life at all costs?
are you saying when it comes to palliative care issues... you are trying to decide whether or not you (or someone in your life) needs to make the choice between prolonging life and quickening death?
Is that an accurate clairification?
Beyond
Posted on: 11/11/2006 01:24
I think she could be facing unbearable pain. I think her question is
about pointless suffering.
My view is that the attending physician should, with the patient's
consent, prescribe adequate medication in palliative cases to stop
pain even knowing such a dose would cause death.
To aliveinlight: God be with you.
ByOurLove
Posted on: 11/11/2006 00:40
or are you suggesting a debate about requested euthenasia and where that fits in the personal/religious spectrum?
I hope you are able to return to the site, Aliveinlight... we aren't sure what the topic is, and it won't progress without a clarifying comment from you.
Cheers.
ByOurLove.
nighthawk
Posted on: 11/12/2006 16:20
Do you mean euthanasia? Palliative care is usually phsyical, spiritual, emotional care given at the very last stages of life, often after treatments for a chronic or terminal disease are beyond the point of offering any relief or help.
MadMonk
Posted on: 11/16/2006 13:17
I don't think we're meant to suffer.
I've watched people die a number of times (not by my own hand I should clarify) and in each case, something was given to ease pain and symptoms that also could stop a person's heart.
Paliative care for me is the practice to live fully while dying.
Sometimes living fully means being pain free, and for others it's about trying to find a balance between pain and consciousness.
Either way, we honour the person's journey by being consistent with how they lived. If they lived fighting, they tend to die that way. If they were able to let go in life, they will in death. Exceptions to every rule.
But does God intend for us to suffer? I think it deserves our individual attention each time and in each case - to see where life is sacred enough not to let it suffer any longer.
RevIan
Posted on: 12/27/2006 00:01
Dear aliveinlight,
What do you understand by the term "palliative care"? My gut feeling, from the framing of your question and from my perspective as a pastoral care coordinator of a hospice, is that "palliative care" is really not what you are referring to. But I, too, do not want to wade in until you''ve had an opportunity to clarify.
This could be a very interesting and informative thread for all of us, so I hope you can do that soon.
sighsnootles
Posted on: 12/27/2006 12:04
i'm all for palliative care. it is the right to die in a pain free and dignified way, without all the brutality of the recussitation measures.
anyone who has ever watched a person be recussitated knows that it is an extremly brutal and painful excercise. the right to just let go and die with dignity is a very important step in accepting death.
BShater
Posted on: 03/12/2007 22:56
aliveinlight
I am not sure that you are clear on the role of palliative care.
I worked as part of the palliative care team for 1 1/2 years as a volunteer.
I helped give the kind of care to patients that nurses and doctors did not have time for and also to give families a break.
All palliative care does is make it so that a person can die with dignity.
Nighthawk explained it very well.
Comments
Suval
Posted on: 11/09/2006 17:48
Sorry... I just want to clairify...
are you saying when it comes to palliative care issues... you are trying to decide whether or not you (or someone in your life) needs to make the choice between prolonging life and quickening death?
Is that an accurate clairification?
Beyond
Posted on: 11/11/2006 01:24
I think she could be facing unbearable pain. I think her question is
about pointless suffering.
My view is that the attending physician should, with the patient's
consent, prescribe adequate medication in palliative cases to stop
pain even knowing such a dose would cause death.
To aliveinlight: God be with you.
ByOurLove
Posted on: 11/11/2006 00:40
or are you suggesting a debate about requested euthenasia and where that fits in the personal/religious spectrum?
I hope you are able to return to the site, Aliveinlight... we aren't sure what the topic is, and it won't progress without a clarifying comment from you.
Cheers.
ByOurLove.
nighthawk
Posted on: 11/12/2006 16:20
Do you mean euthanasia? Palliative care is usually phsyical, spiritual, emotional care given at the very last stages of life, often after treatments for a chronic or terminal disease are beyond the point of offering any relief or help.
MadMonk
Posted on: 11/16/2006 13:17
I don't think we're meant to suffer.
I've watched people die a number of times (not by my own hand I should clarify) and in each case, something was given to ease pain and symptoms that also could stop a person's heart.
Paliative care for me is the practice to live fully while dying.
Sometimes living fully means being pain free, and for others it's about trying to find a balance between pain and consciousness.
Either way, we honour the person's journey by being consistent with how they lived. If they lived fighting, they tend to die that way. If they were able to let go in life, they will in death. Exceptions to every rule.
But does God intend for us to suffer? I think it deserves our individual attention each time and in each case - to see where life is sacred enough not to let it suffer any longer.
RevIan
Posted on: 12/27/2006 00:01
Dear aliveinlight,
What do you understand by the term "palliative care"? My gut feeling, from the framing of your question and from my perspective as a pastoral care coordinator of a hospice, is that "palliative care" is really not what you are referring to. But I, too, do not want to wade in until you''ve had an opportunity to clarify.
This could be a very interesting and informative thread for all of us, so I hope you can do that soon.
sighsnootles
Posted on: 12/27/2006 12:04
i'm all for palliative care. it is the right to die in a pain free and dignified way, without all the brutality of the recussitation measures.
anyone who has ever watched a person be recussitated knows that it is an extremly brutal and painful excercise. the right to just let go and die with dignity is a very important step in accepting death.
BShater
Posted on: 03/12/2007 22:56
aliveinlight
I am not sure that you are clear on the role of palliative care.
I worked as part of the palliative care team for 1 1/2 years as a volunteer.
I helped give the kind of care to patients that nurses and doctors did not have time for and also to give families a break.
All palliative care does is make it so that a person can die with dignity.
Nighthawk explained it very well.