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Measles Outbrek

I'm a little concerned about the latest measles outbreak.  It's spread outside of Lethbridge.  The recommendations aren't helpful to me - go get vaccinated.  Nothing else to prevent, other than encouraging people who do have symptoms to not spread it.  I'll be checking about my last set of titres as I don't remember all the results.  I suppose I could get retested, but I don't see the point.

 

Blame is also being placed onto people who aren't vaccinated, minus the babies.  For some reason, babies are exempt from the blame, meanwhile children who don't have the choice aren't, people who were vaccinated aren't, people who shouldn't be vaccinated aren't.

 

Hopefully it will die out soon.

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It doesn't help when I have to go to medical appointments so often.  The last time I was waiting for hours because the receptionist screwed up.  Now it's not just the flu and other common illnesses going around that I'm trying to avoid.

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It's not the kids people should be blaming but rather the parents who are too irresponsible to get their children vaccinated in the first place.  As for babies - not actually sure how old you have to be to get the first dose of MMR (Measles-Mumps-Rubella) vaccine.

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Rowan wrote:

It's not the kids people should be blaming but rather the parents who are too irresponsible to get their children vaccinated in the first place. 

 

Yep, sounds like my parents.  After we had worst reactions than expected instead of just going off of the recommended vaccination schedule we went to the doctor, got our titres tested and then decided whether or not a booster was needed.

 

Parents who see their kids have severe reactions and discuss with doctors what to do about possible future vaccinations.

 

Sounds like they deserve blame to me.

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The blame non be squarely placed on the bogus fraudulent study that said vaccinations were dangerous. It scared people and no matter how much press is out there people are slow to change

The other blame is religious groups, like the Alberta community, who don't vaccinate on religious grounds. That is why it has spread there.

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Lastpoint, I agree put the blame on the anti-vax groups who spread misinformation.  I don't understand the religious grounds for not doing it - if it was no medical intervension I could somewhat understand that (while not agreeing with it), but it sounds like these religious groups still go to the doctor.

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A link showing one family's heartbreak following an attack of measles.

 

http://www.vaccinestoday.eu/vaccines/how-measles-can-change-a-life/

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I think I'm too old for that at least Kay.  They are vaccinating 6 month olds even though it won't have long lasting benefits for them.  It's just to help prevent babies getting sick during this outbreak.  They usually start around 1 yr.

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I had it as a baby - about three months old.  My mother said it was gruesome to deal with and it left me with an eye that looked sideways.  Fortunately that got fixed! 

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chemgal wrote:

Lastpoint, I agree put the blame on the anti-vax groups who spread misinformation.  I don't understand the religious grounds for not doing it - if it was no medical intervension I could somewhat understand that (while not agreeing with it), but it sounds like these religious groups still go to the doctor.

 

I am not sure about the measles vaccine, but  some vaccines were developed using tissue from aborted fetus, that was than kept alive in labs. So many anti abortion types refuse treatments developed using these tissues. The say it is immoral to recieve benefits tfrom an aborted (in their believe a murder human) fetus.

 

While some blame may be placed on the anti vax groups, I place more blame on the response to these groups from public health, and that gvt fail to grasp that people are not afraid of illnesses that they have nevr seen,.

 

We  need an effective education campaign.. Also gvt is not providing funding and hiring staff (Marketing people)  needed in public health and it is a foolish saving, that will end up costing us.  

 

Public health  save us billions, and saves lifes. Yet they do not have the priority in gvt budgets

 

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I've seen numerous vaccine campaigns here.  I haven't been thrilled with many of them, but it's more because they state things like EVERYONE should be vaccinated.  Or the gongshow that flu vaccines have been in the past when they first come out.  This year had major improvements.

 

I forgot about the abortion part of the issue with vaccines.  Personally, I find that one to be a stretch, and I would be curious to see if they boycott all such advances made from procedures like that.

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In Ontario they are revaccinating for MMR because they are finding it is wearing out, that could also be an explaination.

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chemgal wrote:

Parents who see their kids have severe reactions and discuss with doctors what to do about possible future vaccinations.

 

If you are going to try to tell me that every kid who has gotten measles in this outbreak because he or she was not vaccinated had a  legitimate medical reason for not being vaccinated I am going to have to call BS on you.

 

Again I do not know the real numbers, mainly due to not having the time to do proper research to check, but I'd guess that the actual percentage of children who can not have vaccines due to actual medical issues (as opposed to simply having parents who ought not have been allowed to have kids) can probably be measured in the 0.0XX percents.

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Rowan, I came here about personal worries and also being fed up of hearing blame being lumped on to people like me.  I wasn't expecting to just have that same blanket statement laid down when I came here looking for support.

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People who legitimately can not have vaccines depend on 'herd immunity' which means that the more people who can get vaccines but choose not to the more danger of falling ill those few people who can not have vaccines are in.

 

If that doesn't make people who CAN get vaccines but who CHOOSE not to do so inconsiderate at best and an outright public health threat at worst I don't know what does.

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