no I won't buy it.  But I think every parent can identify with the sentiments expressed at times...

Definitely not a book to read to children but so much truth in it!

Given that expressing those sentiments to one's child could (in combintion with other things) be seen as a violation of the Child Welfare acts.....

NO, not soething to read to children.  Not even sure how it ended up getting piblished in fact...

No, I would not buy it.  While I understand the sentiment - Granddaughter, who lived in my home until she was five years old, was almost impossible to get to bed at night.  It almost drove my daughter to distraction.  But I find the language objectable.  It is not a word I would use myself, especially to or about my child or grandchild.  

Been there ... thought those thoughts ... as I'm certain many parents have!  made me LOL to see it in  writing - and since it's gone viral, I'm guessing many others related

It's not written to be read to children, It's an adult book-that touches on the truth! it's a book for adults to read aloud and giggle-when their children are grown! or at least over 10.

I won't buy it, but I totally understand it and I find the idea funny.  I think for a lot of parents who are going through the worst of sleep deprivation with little ones, it could bring just a tiny bit of relief to be able to laugh at it for a moment and know that other people really do get it.

I won't buy it - but I might thumb through it if I happen to see it at a bookstore - just for a laugh. I'm not a parent, but I've done enough babysitting and daycare work to understand the sentiment.

 Hey!  I was one of those kids that you're all laughing at!  *pouts in corner*

I never have been a very good sleeper.  After I while, I just learned to be quiet and do something in bed like read to keep my parents somewhat happy.

Chemgal - I never was a good sleeper either. My parents were fairly strict and would only let me read for a short amount of time in bed. I, however, was quite devious and realized that as long as the hallway light was on outside my bedroom, my parents would not be able to tell that my bedside light was on (I kept my door closed). I often read for up to an hour that way without getting caught. I became quite adept at figuring out when my parents were about to come down the hall and possibly check on me.

A friend of mine sent me the book last week.  I laughed my butt off.  I showed it to another friend who doesn't have children and they didn't think it was nearly as funny as I did.  I wouldn't buy it or read it do my son or let him read it, at least for a few years yet.  

I was travelling from Cape Breton to Halifax once a month when my son was one.   I'd get him sleeping throught the night during the three weeks in Cape Breton and have to start all over again after the trip to Halifax.  As I explained to my friend, I thought all those things, but I'd never, ever say them.

No I won't buy it. In fact it makes me sad inside to think that so many people can relate to something so derogatory and be drawn in just by the title.

I'm sure it will have great potential for sequals though:

F--king Grow Up Already (for every parent that has a teenager)

Shut the F--k Up  (a hilarious book for those taking care of parents with dementia)

well, I've heard there are nice poems inside, all that end with that F*** line, or some version of it.  It amuses me, considering there are many books that are far worse than that.  The girlfriends' guide to pregnancy was a nasty little book that zillions of women bought, that belittled a lot of what was possible and good about birth.  It didn't have a nasty title, but why write something like that when we want to share good experiences and foster healthy ideas?? Because sometimes people are fed up with trying to be nice or meet standards.  Because it lets us all breath a sigh of relief and try again.

I think the book is a really neat idea and could foster a lot of sharing between moms & dads who have been trying so hard and feel lousy for getting so frustrated. 

Of course it isn't designed for reading to children....  that's a no-brainer. 

I dont' have wee ones, and my siblings all have older kids, but if I had a baby, I'd buy it for my honey :)   Yes, I would.

By the way, I have a book called "Walter the Farting Dog" - I thought "Ick - who would read that to a kid???" but it is a sweet story about a dog that saves the day, despite his , um, flatulence.  Who would write such crap???  Apparently a dog owner who loves his sorry old dog anyway.

 I'm sure if I had a kid I would find the book amusing.  Now, not so much but I do understand why people would.  As long as they aren't reading it to their kids I don't think it's offensive.

I am pretty sure it says on the book that it is for adults only, not for kids.  But you can tell from the poems, its a dad who has read many many many children's books many many nights. 
My daughter never napped easily, and never wanted to miss a moment with anyone.  But she loved bedtime (thankfully) but at a price!  It often meant 90 min of me reading, singing, coaxing, snuggling.. .and then she'd fall asleep finally.  But she never complained.  Eventually, I could tell she was nearly sleeping, and I'd say "i'm just going to run to the bathroom.  I'll come back if you need me."  And she'd be fine with that, and fall asleep.  But it took a long long time.  Maybe some folks think that is nuts, but she never complained about bedtime, and she is 15 and still goes up to bed quite happily at 9:30 without whining about wanting to stay up.

So, I DO know what 'Go the F*** to Sleep' feels like, and I still love my kid to bits.  ;)

I would hope that no one would mistake this book for a book to read to children but rather one for parents.  And yes, even if we don't say it aloud, many of us think these 4 letter words...cms

No.

As many have mentioned, it definitely appears to be a book for parents, not the children.  I wouldn't buy the book for myself . . . and probably not for others,  but possibly only as a gag gift for a parent who was struggling with children's bedtime if I thought it would be appropriate for their kind of humor.

I've already ordered my copy...

I wouldn't buy it mainly because i don't think it funny to hear adults swearing at kids.

I know its a book and aimed at adults but obviously adults are to find it funny.

SO it's funny to think that some one would or at least wants to say that to a kid?

i think it's a slippery slope to thinking it and saying it.  and I don't think it funny to be saying  f... to my child.

Some of you are not GETTING it. It isn't for you to read TO YOUR KIDS.  And I think it's F***ing hilarious.  I may be tempted to buy it after a particularly rough night.

Trish - I haven't heard anyone on this thread say that they considered it a children's book - albeit a bad example of a children's book. 

I realize it is intended for adults - for parents.  And I object to it.  Despite the fact that Granddaughter drove us all to distraction:  

Colic - I had two children who I could put down anyway, walk out of the room and close the door and they would fall asleep - and Granddaughter cried from the time she came home from the hospital until she was almost a year old. 

Toddler - at less than two years old she started climbing out of her crib so we moved her to a big bed.  Tuck her in, leave the room, walk down the hall, and she was toddling along behind us.  Take her back, tuck her in, leave, turn and find her behind us.  Sometimes it took two hours to get her to stay in bed.

Teenager - she still is a nighthawk who is never tired at bedtime (9:30 on school nights) and impossible to get up in the morning.

And never once do I ever remember feeling like swearing at her or using the f--- word which offends me so much. 

I think you make the good point seeler that many people have differing reactions to the use of this word.  For some it's absolutely offensive, for others it has much less impact and is in common, casual use.  A difference in perspective.

I get that it is a book aimed at parents but i agree with seeler.

As tired as i could get at time with my kids, and as frustrated as things sometimes get, i can't ever imagine thinking to saying to them or under my breath to myself to   f.........

Doesn't seem funny to me at all.

If I read something that has me swearing at my kids it makes it seem like an acceptable thing to do and it isn't

i actually saw a copy on facebook before they deleted it, and i never laughed so hard in my life!!

definetly not for children.  not even close.  it speaks to parents who try, and try so hard to be great parents, but even the best of us have those 'enough already!!!' feelings. 

to see that i wasn't the only parent out there who ever thought these things??  what a sense of validation for me. 

i think that a society that says that parents who feel this way from time to time are somehow bad or abusive is simply delusional.  this book is reality for many many parents.

you had a post removed??  what did you say??

Sighs - I don't remember the post but if it was removed and isthen reposted, that could get the user banned.

Beshpin - well, for a recap of a deleted post, that was a good overview, and I tend to agree with you, the same as I agree with Seeler.  It depends on ones comfort level.

My mom grew up thinking "bum" was horrible.  The first time she said s*** she was so nervous but proud of herself, it sounded as if she was the Queen saying it.  I laughed like crazy.

I am quite comfy with a variety of words, but I know how & when to use them (mostly) ;)   The F-bomb is one that really puts the honest emotion out there...  not to be trifled with.

In this case, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think parents go through life without complete exasperation with their children.  What language they use to express it is a matter of comfort and familiarity.  For some, they have boundaries that make "HECK" the outer last limit.  For others, a satisfying F just rolls off the tongue.  These days, I'm not surprised to hear it from anyone anymore.  That doesn't elevate it to the same level as 'Darn', but it has a sense of honesty that I appreciate.  I like to think that its good to allow my sweetheart and my friends the freedom to be honest and blow off steam with a bit of a giggle.  Maybe not everyone feels that way... its ok... be honest.  It makes the world go round.

So what is it like when your post is removed, do you get any notice at all? :3

I guess you're really not part of the 'WC Tribe' so-to-speak according to whomever it is gets to delete posts.

Did you discover that language is only offensive if you take offense to it before you joined WC or after?

I've sent a wondermail to Aaron in the past (that hasn't been read yet) telling him aboot banning that I hope the team doesn't expect us to read their minds when determining what is admin-offensive or not :3

cjms, yeah, I saw this book make the rounds on the internet -- this kind of story I find conservative, titillation :3  But it is good talking aboot it, because, of course, again (HOW BORING I AM!!!) it can help people get over themselves and realize where offense comes from (and that it is the reader who determines if what they are experiencing is blasphemous or sacred and and AND!)

I like the cover :3  Good call...

I am also reminded of how my mother would deal with swear words with her kids or whomever...when she heard one, she would go on with "Oh, do you know other words for that?"  And then she'd start listing them...:3

Parents gotta learn stop to being so afraid -- that anxiety will give their kids conniption fits--they already think you are BIZARRE CREATURES FROM ANOTHER PLANET!!! :3

I saw the post, and quickly forgot about it.  I was a bit surprised that it didn't automatically * the letters out, many boards do that.  I guess for the most part people censor themselves enough to not have it.

This board doesn't have auto-fucking-matic censoring software, for which I am grateful, as I have occasionally used such words where appropriate in the past.

Besh and I don't agree on much (anything?), but that sounds like a post that would have made me giggle with appreciation, and certainly not worth censoring.

But we have been around this before.  Some people object to swear words.  Some don't.  Those who do apparently simply don't visit the vast majority of the net, apparently.

Us knobs? ;3

I don't even know if you even have a choice in the matter.  One must please the sysadmins or be found to be an irredeemable sinner, I guess :3

I <3 that word, frick.

And I grok -- I think we all have words that we deem comfortable and words that we deem blasphemy and that, among us as a group, they don't necessarily correlate.

One I like to use is 'steak' -- that's a PC word for 'meat of a castrated bull' :3

It reminds me of a library I really like down in Vancouver, WA.  They six public computers and anyone with a library number can use them for 1 hour with no other restricted access.  But suddenly, they change that and make only the ones that are facing the back wall unlimited access and the other 3 (which are right by them) unable to access 'pornography'.  I find this hilarious myself :3

Words are powerful and people can get freaked out of themselves getting freaked out and then 'hilarity ensues' (which can include fights and legislation).

beshpin had some posts suggested he wanted to hit northwind on another thread 

it may be related to his behaviour.

Anyhow, if I knew a parent who was frustrated, I might buy it for them, with a note about how humour sometimes helps.

(ps...I was the kid who figured out that a pillow blocked the light under my bedroom door.  I read most nights when I got my own room.   I think there is a sense that everyone sleeps the same....and...that isn't the case. 

Thank you, I managed to sawr it :3

We give quite a lot of power to words; the event in question even shocked me at first, so thus, my post in Northwind's thread to him :3  Later on, I could grok where he was coming from -- not something that I would choose to interpret it as, but I could grok.

Of course, there are always consequences; due to the culling of REDACTED, every single thread that had REDACTED's handle in it is now new ;3

I hope people take this valuable opportunity to see a belief literally as it develops, paying attention to the feelings and interpretations and words that seem to go together and see how and if this changes over time.  Anyhew, that's what I'd do (and have and am right now) :3

Schmart you -- when my family used to live on campus, I had my special 'alone place' at the top of my closet, so I could be all alone, but still within safe distance from parents :3  One of my favourite toys was this Fischer-Price record player.

lol, the top of the closet?  

I think there was a kind of curtain to ensure even more privacy.  I can't remember how I would get up there (knowing my parents, they probably had some kind of ladder arrangement -- this was in the days when parent's weren't so afeared of their kids dying from meteorites or breaking necks).  I could sleep there and there was enough room so that I could bring stuff in there as well.

If my memory serves me correctly.

Is Beshpin gone completely now?  All his posts?

i hope not.  i'll miss that guy....

Yes, RevMatt, i think so.

on the news yesterday i saw that the audio book for this one is read by samuel l. jackson!!  now THAT i would pay to hear...

NOBODY drops the f-bomb like sam.  probably his best work since pulp fiction.

We're being very North American-centric in this thread. You'll note that the book in question is  written by an English author. They just don't treat the F word like a word bomb, as we do. They use it just casually and regularly enough that they're immune to it.

One of my new fav bands, Mumford and Sons, has a song, Little Lion Man, that was a great hit in Europe, with a line in the chorus that goes "I really f***ed it up this time, didn't I, my dear". It's only as offensive as you allow it to be, really.

I think it's generational, as well. My kids don't use the word much (nor do I; extreme physical shock, like hammers on fingers, tends to occasion it), but nor are they shocked or upset by it. Over-use tends to point more to a limited vocabulary than anything else.

It was on YouTube, Sigh, until pulled by Audible, the company that produces Audio Books.