Here is another one about a staged photo that makes it look as if children are in prison.

Any news serivce I have ever heard of has incidents of rigged photos and rigged stories. You will find it even in,, say, Jerusalem Online.

Why do you feel the need to report it only when it's done to Israel? If you were honest, you'd give us examples of such rigging from a range of sources. As it is, you are simply being taken in by an Israeli propaganda show. Telling only a part of the truth is no different from lying.

Such rigging is commonly organized at the government level all over the world. Canada, in WW2, had a staff in Britain whose job it was not to allow any photos through that showed Canadian soldiers being depressed or beaten. Everything had to be smiles and thumbs up.

How many photos have you seen of the heavy bombing that Gaza has suffered? of conditions in Israeli prisons? (or american ones.)

as always, there is a fair amount of tribalism still in us -- feelings and thoughts that are good we tend to seek, feelings and thoughts and ideas that are bad we tend to demonize and project outside ourselves..."these bad feelings and ideas are caused by you, Fox news..." we try to make things 'is' things and definite so we no longer have to think aboot them... that written...

Fox news is, just like the Bible, created for a purpose and does certain things in certain ways (ie 'bias')

i like this analysis

it behooves everyone to be media savvy...program or be programmed...

Because I have never seen any evidence of it anywhere else.  Here is more:

I'm sure you have never seen it anywhere else. And you never will. not even if it's right in front of you.

THe iconic picture of US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima?   Staged.

Does that make it any less real?

Yes, I think it is less real. Iwo Jima was not just a story of victory and celebration. It was, for both sides, especially the japanese, one hell of an ordeal of death, crippling, of agony...  The photo didn't tell all that. It's purpose was to give a very one=sided and very narrow view of what Iwo Jima was about.

In the same way, press photos of soldiers on our side are usually heavily censored to ensure that they do not convey any of the sadness of suffering (or cruelty) .

Where are the photos of My Lai where almost 800 Vietnamese, civilians of all ages, were murdered by Lt. Calley's troops?

The picture of a young girl in flames from an american attack with napalm did make it through - and that got the girl a flight to the US for intense medical treatment. Where are the pictures (or the treatement) for the millions who were murdered, crippled, scarred....?

mely, are you seriously trying to suggest that faux news is anything BUT bullshit??

Israel has the right to defend itself. against attack. Okay.

Does Gaza have a right to defend itself against Iraeli oppression, blockade, land theft, and frequent killing?

okay, a friend posted this on facebook a few moments ago, and i THIS is how i feel.

_______________________

I do not stand with a government that occupies, humiliates, and dehumanizes the other.

I do not stand with a nation that teaches their children that the killing of the other is “good for the state”.

I do not stand with a government that views successive generations of the other as “blades of grass” that must be “mowed down” so they “know their place”.

I do not stand with a government that forbids husbands and wives from living together based on one being born on the wrong side of a fence.

I do not stand with a government that believes that the blatantly illegal collective punishment is “self defense”.

I do not stand with a government that believes the appropriate response to attacks by outdated and ineffective military technology is to shell an entire population by land, sea, and air.

I do not stand with a government that views a 139 mi² area with no access to airports, seaports, or the rest of the country as “unoccupied”.

I do not stand with a government that assassinates the other and then cries foul when the same is returned.

I do not stand with a group that glorifies killing innocent civilians as martyrdom.

I do not stand with a group that only sees peace through the elimination of their enemy.

I do not stand with a government or group run by religious extremists bent on destroying each other.

I do not stand with a group that believes the path to peace comes through rockets and missiles and bombs and death and destruction.

I do not stand with Israel.

I do not stand with Hamas.

I do not stand with those who say we should support Israel because “the Bible says so”.

I stand with those who know no hands are clean in this conflict.

I stand with those who are unafraid to speak prophetically to BOTH sides.

I stand with the 2/3 of both Palestinians and Israelis who desire peace through non-violent means.

I stand with the innocents caught in the middle of this deadly powerplay between religious extremists.

I mourn with the families who have lost loved ones.

I weep for the children who live in constant fear.

I weep for those who view “the other” as something less than human.

I weep for those who refuse to see the image of God in the people on the other side of the fence.

But mostly… I pray.

…for healing.

…for reconciliation.

…for peace.

____________________________

i can't find the name of the author, but here is the link to the website...

http://homebrewedtheology.com/i-do-not-stand-with-israel-i-do-not-stand-...

Ahhh Mely's back trying to stir up racism and Islamophobia.... right on time.

Mely, why do you hate Jesus so much?

I'm not sure she hates Jesus so much as she simply dismisses him and all he stood for. She abandons righteousness for self-righteousness.

Mely wrote:

graeme wrote:

Any news serivce I have ever heard of has incidents of rigged photos and rigged stories. You will find it even in,, say, Jerusalem Online.

Why do you feel the need to report it only when it's done to Israel?

 

Because I have never seen any evidence of it anywhere else. Here is more:

Hi Mely,

Thanks for the video clip. What can one say? - it is what it is.

Here's a link to a discussion thread on another forum.  The thread was started by a soldier who's job is to get news media crews into the hot zones. His ID on this forum is Kris762 and he's the real deal. This is real on-the-ground reporting from an up-close and personal vantage point.

Here's the link. Look particularly at the posts by Kris762.  As of this moment, the thread is 3 pages long.

http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/israel-middle-east-news/69848-gaza.html

Lookin Up wrote:

Mely wrote:

graeme wrote:

Any news serivce I have ever heard of has incidents of rigged photos and rigged stories. You will find it even in,, say, Jerusalem Online.

Why do you feel the need to report it only when it's done to Israel?

 

Because I have never seen any evidence of it anywhere else. Here is more:

Hi Mely,

 

Thanks for the video clip. What can one say? - it is what it is.

 

Here's a link to a discussion thread on another forum.  The thread was started by a soldier who's job is to get news media crews into the hot zones. His ID on this forum is Kris762 and he's the real deal. This is real on-the-ground reporting from an up-close and personal vantage point.

 

Here's the link. Look particularly at the posts by Kris762.  As of this moment, the thread is 3 pages long.

 

http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/israel-middle-east-news/69848-gaza.html

Soldiers are not a terribly good source of unbiased information during a conflict.

He's not engaged in combat there.  He is an Australian soldier who is no longer in active military duty (AFAIK) and is now contracted by smaller news outlets to provide transport and security in and out of the combat zones.

He lead a crew in and out of Syria a few months ago (very high risk) and they got some good footage of just how badly the Syrian people were being hammered by the Assad regime.

Which detracts nothing from my point. Soldiers, even retired ones, are not terribly good sources of unbiased information during a conflict.

The same can be said about humans in general.  Believe what you will.

Witch wrote:

Lookin Up wrote:

Mely wrote:

graeme wrote:

Any news serivce I have ever heard of has incidents of rigged photos and rigged stories. You will find it even in,, say, Jerusalem Online.

Why do you feel the need to report it only when it's done to Israel?

 

Because I have never seen any evidence of it anywhere else. Here is more:

Hi Mely,

 

Thanks for the video clip. What can one say? - it is what it is.

 

Here's a link to a discussion thread on another forum.  The thread was started by a soldier who's job is to get news media crews into the hot zones. His ID on this forum is Kris762 and he's the real deal. This is real on-the-ground reporting from an up-close and personal vantage point.

 

Here's the link. Look particularly at the posts by Kris762.  As of this moment, the thread is 3 pages long.

 

http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/israel-middle-east-news/69848-gaza.html

 

Soldiers are not a terribly good source of unbiased information during a conflict.

i think that it would behoove everyone to stop looking for an unbiased news source or source of information -- there is no such animal

but, rather, to, when gathering information being able to note the "bias" of the information

('news' being a designed thing; "look pa, there is a Grand Designer!")

that way, it's more fun, too :3 less being intimidated by whatever world one chooses to live in atm...

it would be really cool, perhaps, if anyone here could present the biases of the links provided so far...

Not all journalists are deliberate liars. Any ex-soldier who took journalists in to see just was Assad is doing to rebels is a liar. The rebels have been at least as abusive. Did the journalists learn that the rebels are mostly a) not Syrian and b) moslem jihadists? Did they get any footage of the killing and forcing out of Christian syrians by the rebels?

Someday, Mely is going to have to get her head around that. The people she most admires are supporting jihadists who are abusing Christians. The world out there is not the simple one of good and evil that she imagines. There are some very cynical people on both sides.

Mely may also have to face another terrible life crisis. The US may not forever support Israel. It supports Israel now because it is useful for it do do so. That may change dramatically in the not-too-distant future.

I have a somewhat more authoritative perspective than just "believe what you will" that fuels my premise. It is my premise, and I can say so without fear of contradiction by knowledgeable sources, that a soldier is not a good source of unbiased information in any conflict. Soldiers are trained to binary thinking, enemy and friendly, which makes them good soldiers, but lousy journalists.

Considering that Jews have been alternately hated and loved through several flip-flops by far-right wing Christianity, I'd say that's a safe bet.

People can get training to deal with 'bias' -- scientists, for example, get trained to pay particular attention to how their own bias can effect the information and data they get during their experiments...

Witch has personal experience with soldiery and how they think :3

As always, it behooves us, the consumer, to be able to parse and detect bias.  Just for fun, why don't you examine that soldier's bias....take your time at it...and then do a write-up :3

Sigh

Good post 11/22/12. Unfortunately objectivity does not fit well in the mindset of the extremists on both sides.

Hi  witch__How you like my new avitor. Iam thinking about it.__ Thanks Looking up

I think I know where you got it.  Nice.

lol!!  when i see that lion and lamb thing, all i can think of is 'twilight'... thats how my daughter used to describe the plot line in those things.

'... and the lamb shall lie down with the lion...'

As Pogo said, Lions are always willing to lie down with lambs. It's those lambs that are the trouble-making holdouts.

Unless it is a wolf in sheep's clothing :)