No big surprise really - I figured he'd probably win.

I just expected more from social media.  This is it for twitter (along with the French message):

We did it. Just about to go on stage, but wanted to thank my volunteers for all that you've done. This is your victory. Thank you.

I liked what he had to say as he accepted the win today. I hope he can walk the walk and not just talk it. Now that the NDP has validated Mulcair and the Liberals seem to be getting their poop in a group, maybe some civility or something can return to Ottawa.

Not only is democracy dead in the Liberal party, but Liberals vote on Brand Name only.  It is a sad day for the intellectual elite . . . oh my my my indeed.

Pope Rex believes that the NDP have an agenda to support Quebec separatism.  Another show that he understands nothing about democracy, but what can you expect from a navel gazing, pro military  exCon.  Trudeau spanked him on public radio and he's been grateful ever since. . . poor man.

I just posted  on Social. Come and pay my thread a visit and you will see what I think.

Overall, I thought the speech was good.  I only saw a clip and read the speech, so maybe there are some differences.

I agree Northwind, overall it was pretty good, but I did find in his 'inclusiveness' he left out quite a few Canadians.  There was no mention of any of the major cities.  I can understand that though, as once you mention one better be talking about them all.  Also, what about the poor, the rich, the lower middle class, the upper middle class, etc?  (Partly why I started another thread).

Jlin, can you elaborate?  I caught more of the end result and less of what actually led up to the result.

Frankly, while I am open to the chance I could be proven wrong, I think this is a mistake both for the party and for Trudeau himself.  I am not convinced he has proven himself ready for the task and I suspect the party is falling as much for the name as for the man.

Gord, I wondered the same myself about his name.  I didn't follow enough for it to be very educated of a guess.  It also concerns me if Liberals did vote on the name, that that's the type of government they want!

I've been thinking the same thing - it seems to me that the Liberals want him to be some sort of reincarnation of his father.

To add some humour to this conversation:

Chemgal,

I was alluding to Trudean Sr. in the days of the FLQ.  Rex Murphy was a young idealist journalist who questioned Trudeau's use of the Military in the FLQ crisis and Trudeau educated Murphy as to the rights of the privileged over the fantasy of democracy.  And Rex Murphy became an elitist Liberal, following in a homoheteropatriarchal status of the Trudeau narcissism and never allowed himself to be overcome by social justice again.

IE, Murphy understood the aspect of Public Relations vs. of social justice lookalike policies vs. the reality of underscoring networking in Patriarchal attitudinal if  provincial corporate Canadian elites.  He didn't do as well when the markets went global in the 80s and didn't survive this.  A smarter man than Rex Murphy would have questioned his allegiance to the Trudeau education, by Murphy is not that intelligent an analyst, just a very uptight one and it seems smart.

Speaking of IQ, we do have to worry about Trudeau Jr. who was quoted as saying that he believed that his mother was actually more intelligent than his father.  I am not a mother hater, nor a misogynist, but this statement is questionable on manymany levels.

Ack! Am I the only one unreservedly grateful for his win? All the criticism has been about how callow he is - so much more so than an accountant with an unimpressive resume, who worked for Daddy (who was an accountant with Imperial Oil).
Trudeau Jr. Grew up living and absorbing politics. He has a dream team of talent to draw on. Cannot fathom though why his policies are expected to be the same as his Dad's.
I for one believe he has experience aplenty. He did win his riding twice, so he's no stranger to the house.
I think one problem he will face is the eventual disillusion of some of his supporters when they find out that Liberals are different from Greens & ndp. The voters seem to have burdened him with a great many dreams...
Shows how badly we slightly left-of-centres need hope.

No Ninja! I found him inspiring… Canadian inspiring, not just political inspiring. And Canada needs that to lift itself out of the moral and social lethergy of obsession out 'The Economy'.  He is accused of being "weak on policy". I think that's a good thing: if the vision is good, the policy may make mistakes but the vision will make the corrections visible and necessary. If it's all about policy and juggling economic statistics, as we've been getting under Harper, you're looking at ideology which will steam ahead no matter what damage is being done.

This doesn't mean I'll vote Liberal. I might. I'm inclined a little further to the Left, but I  am delighted with at least the hope that the tone and the issues he raises come to the fore, and Canada gets back a sense of "can do", and a more compassionate, considerate and collective sense of nationhood..

I am grateful for the win, and the possibility of a new face in Ottawa, or at least a strong voice in opposition.  Certainly not impressed with Mulcair.

Can't wait (actually I can because I find them despicable) the Conservative attack ads to begin.

Think the Conservatives see Justin as a real threat.   Been a long time since we have had a leader with some charisma, and Trudeau has some of that.    Might even inspire our youth to vote.

I think we need to give him some time to see what he is about. I had hoped that would happen during the long drawn out campaign but I still don't know much about what he stands for other than he loves canada.

Not a selling feature yet but if he surrounds himself with big thinkers, develops a vision, handles himself well in parliament then I agree, with his charisma he will do well.

But i hope that despite our cultural love of "stars" that substance will out weigh a pretty face.

Time will tell.

Of course attack ads are coming, that's politics. I expect them for the NDP too as I think he is a huge threat to them

But I do hate his style of speaking. In a interview he seems natural and jokey and fun. In a speech, oh my god, it's painful to listen too. Soft, hushed, full of platitudes. Really he needs some public speaking coaching, surprised he hasn't had it already

I was greatly impressed by his speech.  I felt he did an excellent job of skewering the Harper Government and the Harper approach to politics.  I hope both the Liberals and the NDP will ignore each other as much as possible.  Harper is a serious enemy of all I value as a Canadian, and we need all other parties to never forget he is the enemy, not each other.  The last time I voted Liberal was for a woman candidate in the federal election in Halifax in 1989.  Depending on the quality of candidate in my riding in the next election, I might vote Liberal for the second time in my life. I have never voted Conservative.  I have never lived in a riding with a Conservative candidate that I could respect.  Some of the negative comments above seem to reflect more the media coverage of Justin and less a close look at his actual accomplishments and policies.

Trudeau's name is both a blessing and a curse. Some of that is evidenced here in the comments. It is my understanding that he has made it clear where he is different from his father. I was listening to some analysts speak of him, and the differences between him and PET. Apparently his father was great at the group thing and speaking in front of crowds. He was not so good at the one on one. Justin on the other hand, while an excellent speaker, is better apparently at the one on one, and small group thing. Frankly, I think we need that now. We need someone who is personable at ground level because hopefully that will make him moderately more aware of what is going on out here in the real Canada......a girl can dream can't she?

There was a bit of a discussion of this on FB last night. As I type this I have more thoughts. I felt like he channelled Jack Layton in his speech yesterday. I felt it was because he has similar energy and charisma as Jack. I still feel that. I think though the thing that links the two is that both have a vision for Canada that includes Canadians. I'm frankly glad he doesn't have hard and fast policy ideas at this point. Our current PM was like that, and look how that has turned out? How are policy ideas and ideology different some days? Trudeau said something like he considers this to be a service (not that word, but close) and I like that. It sounded like he is doing this to serve Canadians, which is a good start.

I'm thinking Justin Trudeau will provide a much needed breath of fresh air in Ottawa and Canada.

I'll be listening to what he has to say and I hope he will listen to what Canadians have to say also. Although in all the years I have been voting I have never been called or asked about what's important to me. Who takes these polls anyway?

What issues does everyone think he should be addressing?

As I posted on another thread, I highly recommend actually visiting JT's web page and reading the list of priorities. His policies are clearly articulated and developed.
It bothers me that people accept the idea that he has no substance without researching first.

Really ninja?  I took a look yesterday and didn't see much.  I did see a clip where they asked about his platform and he said the election is too far off and it wouldn't be appropriate to have one already.  That made sense to me, but I don't know enough about his policies to have much of an opinion.

https://justin.ca/justin-trudeau-why-the-cnooc-nexen-deal-is-good-for-ca...

https://justin.ca/education-investing-in-canadians/

https://justin.ca/democratic-reform-trusting-canadians/

I'm not a particular fan of Justin Trudeau, but I see the Conservative Party has already launched their attack ads, and I'm sick to death of the negative, attack, attack, attack style of politics. And - to any Conservatives here, I'm sorry to say this, but it's true - the Conservative Party have become the masters of it. They have raised it to an uglier level than it has ever before existed. That's my view anyway as a longtime observer. So as I read

this article

from the National Post (hardly a Liberal mouthpiece) we should feel free to take quotes totally out of context, steal videos from other sources and attack Trudeau for raising money for charity. And in terms of qualifications, let's see. Trudeau has been an MP longer than Stephen Harper had been when he became Alliance leader. Trudeau was a teacher. Harper was a political assistant and the head of a lobby group. And he's the "economist" who never actually worked as an economist anywhere. So what? And the other parties then feel they have to respond in kind to this stuff. It's no wonder so many Canadians can't be bothered voting at all anymore.

For anyone interested in his early stage policies...

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/canadian-politics/blog.html...

Hey - it's telling that with an election 2.5 years away, our tax $ are possibly being exploited to fund those crazy "Action Plan" ads. Really an exercise in self-promotion for a program that ended long ago.
I don't know if the Harper war chest is paying for the attack ads or not, but since an election hasn't been called, they should be illegal too.

That ad comes across like it was produced by some immature 20 year old tweeting the latest gossip about Justin Bieber. It will probably come back and bite them in the butt.

Agreed. A problem all along is that they have ignored the sensibilities and discernment of average Canadians. I really don't think enough voters will take the ads seriously to sway their opinion.

You misunderstand the purpose of such ads. The point is not to sway opinion. The point is to so turn people off the political process in general that they'll throw their hands up in disgust and just not vote. The Conservatives - who have a very committed base - benefit from low voter turnout.

That too. I've noticed this practice on various comment boards. People posing as being politically disaffected and hopeless.

Ninja, it would have helped if those pages were up yesterday!  I could only get message under the view tab.  Maybe a glitch with increased traffic.

Arent attack ads a form of bullying? I thought the government was cracking down on these things? Is this teaching our children how to behave?

I just checked both the CBC and Sun News comment boards. Same story - 100's (predict 1000's) of thumbs down to attack ads on CBC.
Sun News - 31 comments of now-familiar dreck.

It appears few are deceived or impressed. Great news!

Congratulations to Mr. Trudeau. However I won't be voting for him.

Whatever Jae.

waterfall, I was thinking of the attack ads and how juvenile they are. I would expect politicians to be adults....I'd apparently be wrong in that. I agree, the attack ads seem to be a form of schoolyard bullying.

Trudeau has won on the shallowest grounds - his name, and his looks. And, of course, he's everybody's friend. That will give the Liberals a short-term boost in the polls -but nothing that will last until the next election.

I see not the slightest sign he has anything that could be called a political principle - and he heads a party that has only rarely stood for any principle since 1896.

If he doesn't become PM, then of course it will be a disaster for the Liberal Party. If he does become PM, it will be a disaster for Canada. I don't think Canada could survive end to end governments by Harper and Trudeau. I'm not even convinced it can survive two more years of Harper.

The only time I have seen the attack ad is when it's actually being discussed.  Has it actually just aired as an ad?

My impression is that it's only available on the Conservative Party website and probably You Tube for now. 

saw the ad in question this evening while watching Jeopardy

Here is one article that has the ad http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/04/15/the-trudeau-attack-ad-context-and-a-tweet/#.UWyPaHVCJyk.facebook It is going around FB right now. It is more pathetic than normal actually. The lie and deception was easy to see.

Here's one ad. I tried to post the second one and things went wonky....

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Here's the second one (I think).....I tried to post it. Maybe the link to it will work:

So it is on TV then. I haven't seen it. 

I don't really know how I was able to embed that second video.....

curious, does it help if we share the attack ads? just curious....who is helped by sharing negativity?

are we better to share positive, or criticism of the negativity?

Not a criticism, Northwind, just curious.

What do you mean "whatever" Northwind? I am a Canadian voter just like you. My voice counts as much as yours does. I simply choose to support the leader of the Conservatives... you know, they guy who was given leadership for reasons other than what he looks like and who his daddy was.

Right. He was given leadership because big business had him in their pocket, and big business was happy to pay the bills to get him elected. that's why the conservatives can afford the big cost of hate ads - and other parties can't.

And big business can provide guidance on testing the margins of the law as the Conservative Party did in 2 consecutive elections.  Harper was a lobbyist for a secritive, anti-democratic organization, and learned lots from them.  He has shown many failings at managing the ecomomy: a billion dolars for securtity for a pair of summit meetings accompaninied by gazebos in cottage country, a fake lake in Toronto, police measures that arrested hundreds of peaceful protesters and allowed vandals to wage destruction; tens of millions of dollalrs on advertising that pats hm n the back while saying nothing of worth; that saves corporatations and wealthy individuals billions fo dollars which were added to their hundreds of billions of cash reserves while racking up over a hundred billion dollars of debt for our children to pay off, most of them with incomes depressed by programs like the temporary foreign workers program.  And the list goes on.

It wouldn't take much to improve on that!
I would like it if words like "hope", "change", "education", "science", "freedom", "climate change", "accountability", and "democracy" stopped being considered "radical" curse words.

If you're living under a Harper, take pride in how much he dislikes you and what you believe in.

Not to mention "Action!"

i was in Montreal this past weekend at the NDP policy convention. It was my first one as a delgate  since the late 90s. 

Trudeau was ignored by the leadership, but I suspect they fear him. The NDP has a sold team. I hope they just showcase what we are,  as oppose to hiding our faults. Trudeau is all style (so far) while the NDP has a lot of substance, but is weak on style. 

Trudeau also has a very weak team behind him (so far)  I wonder if the Liberal Party has becoem a one man show?\