It doesn't look like it'll happen in part because the players are loudly against it.

he'd never pass the urine drug test.

Only to give him one less thing to whinge about. 

Although, on the upside, if Russ takes on the sacredness of American football maybe even his Republican fans will turn him off.

LB - hope springs eternal

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.     Bill Shankly

limbaugh is an ill informed lout who makes a living out of spouting far right ideology. He's a sort of TV evangelist for the most ignorant wing of the Republican party. And he has made enough money at this to think of buying one of the world's most expensive sports franchises.

There's a lesson in there.

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"Naomi Klein springs to mind but there are other ranters who are perhaps more well-educated than those in the Limbaugh category but no less wilfully ignorant , ideologically motivated, or deliberately inflammatory. "

Naomi Klein and Rush Limbaugh are not in the same category, not even in on the same planet.  You can disagree with her assessments of capitalisms but you can never accuse her of stooping to the level of someone who might as well have been tutored personally by Josef Goebbels. 

Oh, I think Naomi Klein has almost as myopic a view as RL.  You likely agree with her and thus cannot see past her extremely ideological point of view.  She is just prettier than Rush and presents differently.

Trust DG to turn every thread into a whine drip and moan against us "anti-semite Lefties"

Russ Limbaugh? Never heard of him.

Aquila, Russ is Rush Limbaugh's smarter brother.  But not by much.

My, my. Why would we care? He's an American. He hasn't violated the First Amendment. He may be an ass, but that's his problem. It's not a crime to be an ass.

......and it's just an NFL team that he wants to buy.  As long as he isn't messing with hockey or the CFL, I'm not going to get too worked up. 

Sorry, I meant to type Rush

Obviously, the recession isn't hurting him. Where does he get so much money?

He gets it from weak minded folk who can't afford health care

Breaking news - Rush withdrew his bid.

 He didn't withdraw it. He was dumped by the head of the group that he was making the bid with. 

"Checketts, the chairman of SCP Worldwide, announced that Limbaugh had been dumped toward the end of a news release.

"It has become clear that his involvement in our group has become a complication and a distraction to our intentions; endangering our bid to keep the team in St. Louis," Checketts said. "As such, we have decided to move forward without him and hope it will eventually lead us to a successful conclusion."

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Before getting dropped, Limbaugh said he had no intention of backing out.
 

"I'm not even thinking of caving," he said. "I am not a caver. Pioneers take the arrows. We are pioneers. It's a sad thing that our country, over 200 years old now, needs pioneers all over again, but we do."

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=187410&catid=3

Thread over.

well, I'll vote in favour of Limbaugh taking some arrows.

"Oh, I think Naomi Klein has almost as myopic a view as RL.  You likely agree with her and thus cannot see past her extremely ideological point of view. "

No, I actually don't agree with her you hack, but I can tell the difference between an articulate, and usually considerate proponent of a worldview I don't agree with and a Mussolini-esque demagogue.  It's not a matter of espousing an ideology - after all, all of us are influenced by ideology, including your oh-so-reasonable-self - but of how you go about presenting your views.  Limbaugh's modus operandi is character-assassination. 

Free, I think I have to suspend my discussions with you.  I have not called you an asshole once even though you continue to act like one, yet you can't seem to resist the name-calling, the condescension, and the ad hominens.  So you party on and have fun.

Naomi Klein is an inflammatory bigot.  She presents more nicely than Rush and is less of a jerk, but from my perspective, i.e., the middle of the political spectrum, she tries to stir up the shit just as much as Rush.  Her audience is simply more refined than his but at the end of the day, they both come across as windbags.  If you weren't so trapped in your own class-based ideological cage, you would see that.

Free_thinker, if you'd like to commisserate, I too have been told that DonnyGuitar won't be having discussions with me.  I admit, the stigma used to be too much to bear.

But fear not, as you can still expect DG to be offended the next time you post something he doesn't like.  He will even articulate the exact degree of his offense, starting a whole new discussion.

By then, you'll be wishing for him to suspend discussions with you once more.

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"Naomi Klein is an inflammatory bigot."

By your definition DG, Marx and Isaiah Berlin are inflammatory bigots because a lot of people got fired up about what they said, which I guess puts them in the same category as Rush Limbaugh.  Anyone who doesn't pick the middle position between whatever two ideas happen to prevail at that point in time is on his way towards demagoguery.  I guess all those anti-Apartheid activists were also bigots because they got angry and staged civil disobedience, rather than trying to sit down and politely discussing a centrist means of racial division. 

"If you weren't so trapped in your own class-based ideological cage, you would see that."

If you know me, you know I'm not exactly a fan of class-based analysis.  This isn't about whether her ideas, it's about her character. 

As a side-note, this is the 4th thread that I can remember where you've announced that you're offended and waltzed out.  Your definition of 'centrism,' DG seems to be that all we agree on everything, and that if someone is pursuing an altnerative viewpoint passionately, then they're a bigot.  It's all very Victorian of you, the fellas at the country club politely discussing the benefits of the status quo and avoiding vulgar and inflammatory thoughts such as, "How is Empire that much different than slavery?" 

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"whom you don't agree and see people like Limbaugh as catering to a lower-class audience, a slice of the population that you appear not to like or understand."

I detest the Limbaughs of the world not because they cater to the 'lower-class' but because they cater to complete savages.  You can be a savage and be still be very wealthy; in fact, a lot of them are.  Anyways, this is one red herring I'm not going for.  I'm not a snobb, and my hatred for what Limbaugh represents has nothing to do with being elevated, but with being decent. 

"My view of centrism is that which tries to bring together opposing points of view into some form of consensus, recognizing the truth in each. "

That's an approach, it's not a political philosophy.  You can be a staunch anarchist and still believe that all points of view need to be considered, and that consesus ought to be a goal we all strive for.  OIn the other hand, I've encountered many dogmatic democrats who believe in pluralism in theory but not in practice.  The ethos you bring to a discussion doesn't necessarily say much about your political opinions. 

Your problem, DG, is that you seem to believe that all ideas on the table, by virtue of being on the table, are partly true and need to be included in a consensus, no matter how inane they actually are.  That's why you get so easily offended, because it's hard for you to understand that some political positions are flat-out wrong, and to call them out isn't vulgar, it's honest.  Furthermore, the way you've described your political philsophy, it doesn't sound like you have very many ideas at all.  Instead, you just try to mediate between whatever ideas happen to be present at this particular point in time, regardless of how good they are.  If you were alive during the Weimar period, you'd be trying to find some middle ground between Nazism, Communism, democratic socialism, liberalism and getting offended at why they can't all get along and just let Hitler have the Cabinet position he's been asking for. 

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Very well said.

imagine, you two loudmouths agreeing.  Who could have guessed that?