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Borat - humorous satire or racism? Discuss

I was with a group of friends last night, and a heated discussion started over Borat. While it was unanimously agreen upon that it was an outrageous and funny movie, some thought that it was a bit disturbing because it showed how racist we really are. Others thought that because it was a satire, it was okay to laugh. What are your thoughts?

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I also saw it last night, and it was absolutely hilarious. It does make you think, though, how much of the country still thinks with racism or some other sort of prejudice. Still a hilarious film, though!

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I honestly don't even get the whole thing. The first I had heard of him was when he showed up on the cover of my Entertainment Weekly. Apparently I was living under a rock (according to a co-worker) for not knowing Sacha Baron Cohen. Who knew?

I wonder if this movie could be compaired to Rick Mercier's "Talking To Americans" in that it exposes ignorance of other cultures but then again I wonder if its just plain old mean.

Two frat boys who appreared in the movie are sueing the producers and I saw on TV last night that another group of people from the movie are not happy at the way they were being portrayed.

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I saw the movie, it was hilarious. Of course it was offensive at a couple of parts, but you can also laugh at it. I don't think there was anything wrong with it - it showed how many groups of people are so ignorant towards others that it's enough to laugh at.

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Baron Sacha Cohen is brilliant: his victims have to hold stereotypes of places like Khazakstan and Eastern Europe in order to be taken in by his Borat and his savage satire of their other odious attitudes without any sense of making jackasses of themselves. It was odd that Khazak officials got upset - they missed the double whammy - he's put their country on the map by satirising the worst things that some people in the West imagine about the place; then uses this as a lever to draw out other bigotries, His Ali G series did the same thing with stereotypes of gangsta kids in the U.K. If he upsets you, you may be harbouring a few attitude problems yourself. He's Jewish by the way... and, yes, racism is very prevalent in the English-speaking West. Travel to other cultures and you often find curiosity rather than fear when it comes to cultural, ethnic and racial differences.

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Funny you should ask. Haven't yet seen movie - just heard about it last night. This morning happened to have a brief discussion with members of the "older" group (50+). One comment made was, "After laughing at certain parts, I asked myself how could I laugh at this?" Another comment was "How incredibly political incorrect" - coming from individual with only 10% vision in one eye so impression primarily based on audio. After listening to comments and getting some idea of movie content my comment is "It sounds like what I deal more and more with in the classroom (teenagers treatment to each other) and what I am seeing increasing daily within the school setting and society in general" - lack of respect for self and others. I find it rather disturbing because if my impression of the movie is correct, it mimics what society is becoming.

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Funny, I was just going to start a thread on this...however I must say Borat was the funniest movie I have ever seen. I keep reliving scenes and dialog over and over. I wish it was out on DVD now.

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Did anyone who watched the movie notice that one of the funniest scenes was where Borat, in all his weirdness, enters a fundamental church and realises that everyone there is stranger than he is?

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Very funny actor. It's just one of his many characters. We do realize that don't we. It's comedy. It's satire. Canadians love satire, right?
Isn't most part of the movie shot in the States? Go figure. I bet it wasn't hard for 'Borat' to find victims for his movie. I like to compare him with Micheal Moore, but with a funny twist. It's disturbing to see how conservative some people are when it comes to strange beings like 'Borat'.
Borat is just one of the characters on the Ali G show. Brilliantly done. You can see it on Showcase. From an acting point of view it's very well done. What a transformation this guy does. Very impressive. And he never falls out of character. Other characters he does are, Ali-G. a UK rapper and Bruno, an austrian youth tv idol. Borat is nothing compared to these other characters.
Borats funny, but the people he meets scare me. Let's close up the border now.

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Millk: Borat is a character on Saturday Night Live, a show I've been watching every Saturday since 1976, pop-culture junkie that I am!
I go to the movies every Wed afternoon (by myself) and sometimes I go again on a Friday. This Wed. it's Borat!

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How else is anyone supposed to point out what's wrong with America without being blown off the planet! Remember, the film is more about how Americans (The red states) think and react to the unknown than reality itself!

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I just saw Borat this weekend. Unbelievably funny. I think it points out the high level of racism that is out there....and not only in the States either.

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I find Borat the saddest, most pathetically unfunny piece of "satire" ever conceived. While I respect Sacha Baron Cohen as an actor and comedian, I just really hated the movie.

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I think the main thing people don't understand about Sacha Baron Cohen's character Borat is that he's not making fun of Kazakhstan or its people. He's making fun of the people who refuse to corect him, much like he does with his other characters Ali G and Bruno. The reason it's so funny is because people don't get mad, they try to tell him he's doing something wrong but that's where they end it. Sometimes they don't even go that far.

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The question I always think with Borat is "Where is the line?". Not the 'you've crossed the line!' line, but rather... when does someone teach respect?

Imagine if Borat had not been satire, and you had been on the receiving end of him. Would you simply forgive him of everything because of cultural differences? I wonder...

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