Lately Seelerman and I have been catching old movies on Turner's Classics and on Netflex. Some really good plots, acting, etc. And some things we might not have noticed forty years ago but that jump out at us now.
Smoking - almost everyone, male or female, smoked a lot in almost every movie
Spanking - last night we watched 'Yours, Mine, Ours' with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda and a large blended family. Tender moments and a lot of laughs. And Lucille turning her six year old son over her knee and spanking him. Later in the movie one of the children gets slapped in the face. Child abuse? No - it was treated as normal child-rearing.
Relationships between the sexes - remember in 'Gone With the Wind' when Rhett picks up Scarlett and carries her screaming into the bedroom. Marital rape? And how pleased and contented she is the next morning? (at least until she finds he has left her)
Fist fights - again considered normal among boys, and men
Killing - people are shot down left, right and center with no thought whatsoever about a life being wiped out.
What do you see in old movies? How have attitudes and customs changed? And how have they remained the same?
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Elanorgold
Posted on: 05/06/2012 19:35
Hi Seeler. Yeah I see all of that. Also less seems to have been known, or cared, about history, which is always bungled up in old movies, well, worse than it is now. And men never had long hair in old movies. Except maybe Errol Flynn... ; )
Attitudes and ideals have changed quite a bit. Male and female roles... Lots of woman heros now. Women beating up the bad guys, wearing pants, being leaders. Men are less arrogant and macho... I think... at least as a matter of cource. But we have way more sex and violence and gore and drugs and foul language in cinema than we used to. I'd like to see things be more suggestive again, rather than so graphic.
I like some old movies. Many wonderful magical moments.
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/06/2012 19:45
Gunsels
Gun molls
.45 automatics
Drinking at all times of the day (a bar in every living room and office)
Dames
Dolls
Newspaper boys on the corner "EXTRE! EXTRE! Read all aboot it!"
25 mph being considered CRAZY FAST
Coolies
Segregated bars
Carrying books via belt
Story & character development in movies
The Beachcombers being mainstream
David Suzuki being a lone voice in the wilderness
Fear of Nuclear War
the Red Menace
Trust of the US government
MikePaterson
Posted on: 05/06/2012 19:52
I still enjoy 'Mon Oncle' (Jacques Tati, 1958) … and so does our grand daughter. She asks to see it (again!) whenever she stays over.
It's a delightful, very funny film with occasional pipe-smoking scenes.
Anyone else a fan???
'Then there was 'Monsieur Hulot's Holiday' (1953), another wonderful film.
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/06/2012 19:51
for those wondering, here's a funny scene from the movie; I sympathize for those for whom computers are like this
Beloved
Posted on: 05/06/2012 22:42
Twin beds in married couples bedrooms.
I've noticed in watching older movies a lot of face slapping - even in movies for children.
No cell phones.
No computers.
No blood when people are shot.
naman
Posted on: 05/07/2012 07:15
About two weeks ago Namana and I watched Peyton Place. First time for each of us.
Seems to have delt with issues by filming on both sides of the tracks. Something new at that time.
seeler
Posted on: 05/07/2012 07:28
Naman - Many years ago when I was a teenager I watched Peyton Place. I remember very much identifying with the characters and setting (it was set in a small town in Maine, I believe, and I grew up in a smaller settlement in NB). I could almost match the characters in Peyton Place with the people I knew.
I watched again a couple of weeks ago - Turner's Classic Movies, right? It brought back the old feelings. These were the people in the time and place where I grew up. Loved seeing the young people on bicycles rather than being driven everywhere - and managing their own free time rather than having everything micro-managed by parents.
naman
Posted on: 05/07/2012 12:44
Hey Seeler. Did your parents know that you watched Peyton Place? What did they think? My eldsers made sure that I did not get to see the moviel.
crazyheart
Posted on: 05/07/2012 13:41
House wives !!!! wearing apron over a frilly dress and high heels, vacuuming.
seeler
Posted on: 05/07/2012 15:15
Hey Seeler. Did your parents know that you watched Peyton Place? What did they think? My eldsers made sure that I did not get to see the moviel.
Naman, I didn't have parents to guide me in my teens. That gave me the freedom to decide what I would read or watch.
seeler
Posted on: 05/07/2012 15:18
Yes, Crazyheart, aprons. We almost never see them now except perhaps a fancy one for preparing and serving Christmas dinner and a big one with a joke on it for the cook at a barbeque.
And high heels in your own home!!!! We, hostess or guests, seldom wear shoes in my house. Sock-feet or slippers - company or not.
seeler
Posted on: 05/07/2012 15:19
Men, and even young boys, in suit coats and wearing ties.
MikePaterson
Posted on: 05/07/2012 15:22
I wear an apron for baking bread and making "special" meals when friends are coming — just so my tidier clothes stay more or less tidy… but I can't imagine high heels ever having done much for cullinary history. I'm a shoeless chef.
Elanorgold
Posted on: 05/07/2012 22:27
Shoes in the home, hmmm, I forgot about that. Mom and friends used to do that when company were over.
seeler
Posted on: 05/26/2012 16:43
We've been watching westerns. I can't believe the killing. Left,right and centre.
Last night we watched something about 'On the Trail of the Santa Fee" or something similar. It was pre-civil war - John Brown vs the US calvary in Kansas and later on at Harper's Landing. I lost track of how many were shot on both sides, or all sides for it seems that there were settlers caught in between. Men shot off horses, off wagons, off rooftops, in windows, behind fences, under wagons, in barns, and finally around the amunition depot at Harper's Ferry.
After the movie, I googled events - yes there were killings - probably it would take both hands to count them all - but not nearly as many as I saw in an hour and a half last night.
Mendalla
Posted on: 05/26/2012 16:46
Ah, westerns. If there was as much shooting going on in real life as happens in those movies, the US Mid-west would have been seriously de-populated . I'm not a huge Western fan though, as always with me, there are exceptions. For instance, I like Clint Eastwood's Westerns but that's more being a fan of Clint than of the genre.
Mendalla
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 05/26/2012 16:55
someone mention Westerns?
How meta!