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Lately Seelerman and I have been catching old movies on Turner's Classics and on Netflex.  Some really good plots, acting, etc.  And some things we might not have noticed forty years ago but that jump out at us now.

 

Smoking - almost everyone, male or female, smoked a lot in almost every movie

 

Spanking - last night we watched 'Yours, Mine, Ours' with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda and a large blended family.  Tender moments and a lot of laughs.  And Lucille turning her six year old son over her knee and spanking him.  Later in the movie one of the children gets slapped in the face.  Child abuse?   No - it was treated as normal child-rearing.

 

Relationships between the sexes - remember in 'Gone With the Wind' when Rhett picks up Scarlett and carries her screaming into the bedroom.  Marital rape?   And how pleased and contented she is the next morning?  (at least until she finds he has left her)

 

Fist fights - again considered normal among boys, and men

 

Killing - people are shot down left, right and center with no thought whatsoever about a life being wiped out.

 

What do you see in old movies?  How have attitudes and customs changed?  And how have they remained the same?

 

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Hi Seeler. Yeah I see all of that.  Also less seems to have been known, or cared, about history, which is always bungled up in old movies, well, worse than it is now. And men never had long hair in old movies. Except maybe Errol Flynn... ;  )

 

Attitudes and ideals have changed quite a bit. Male and female roles... Lots of woman heros now. Women beating up the bad guys, wearing pants, being leaders. Men are less arrogant and macho... I think... at least as a matter of cource. But we have way more sex and violence and gore and drugs and foul language in cinema than we used to. I'd like to see things be more suggestive again, rather than so graphic.

 

I like some old movies. Many wonderful magical moments.

 

 

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Gunsels

 

Gun molls

 

.45 automatics

 

Drinking at all times of the day (a bar in every living room and office)

 

Dames

 

Dolls

 

Newspaper boys on the corner "EXTRE! EXTRE! Read all aboot it!"

 

25 mph being considered CRAZY FAST

 

Coolies

 

Segregated bars

 

Carrying books via belt

 

Story & character development in movies

 

The Beachcombers being mainstream

 

David Suzuki being a lone voice in the wilderness

 

Fear of Nuclear War

 

 

the Red Menace

 

Trust of the US government

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I still enjoy 'Mon Oncle' (Jacques Tati, 1958) … and so does our grand daughter. She asks to see it (again!) whenever she stays over. 

It's a delightful, very funny film with occasional pipe-smoking scenes.

 

 

Anyone else a fan???

 

'Then there was 'Monsieur Hulot's Holiday' (1953), another wonderful film.

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for those wondering, here's a funny scene from the movie; I sympathize for those for whom computers are like this

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Twin beds in married couples bedrooms.

 

I've noticed in watching older movies a lot of face slapping - even in movies for children.

 

No cell phones.

 

No computers.

 

No blood when people are shot.

 

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About two weeks ago Namana and I watched Peyton Place.  First time for each of us.

 

Seems to have delt with issues by filming on both sides of the tracks. Something new at that time.

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Naman - Many years ago when I was a teenager I watched Peyton Place.  I remember very much identifying with the characters and setting (it was set in a small town in Maine, I believe, and I grew up in a smaller settlement in NB).   I could almost match the characters in Peyton Place with the people I knew. 

 

I watched again a couple of weeks ago - Turner's Classic Movies, right?   It brought back the old feelings.  These were the people in the time and place where I grew up.  Loved seeing the young people on bicycles rather than being driven everywhere - and managing their own free time rather than having everything micro-managed by parents. 

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Hey Seeler. Did your parents know that you watched Peyton Place? What did they think? My eldsers made sure that I did not get to see the moviel.

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House wives !!!! wearing apron over a frilly dress and high heels, vacuuming.

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naman wrote:

Hey Seeler. Did your parents know that you watched Peyton Place? What did they think? My eldsers made sure that I did not get to see the moviel.

 

Naman, I didn't have parents to guide me in my teens.  That gave me the freedom to decide what I would read or watch. 

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Yes, Crazyheart, aprons.  We almost never see them now except perhaps a fancy one for preparing and serving Christmas dinner and a big one with a joke on it for the cook at a barbeque.

And high heels in your own home!!!!   We, hostess or guests, seldom wear shoes in my house.  Sock-feet or slippers - company or not.

 

 

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Men, and even young boys, in suit coats and wearing ties.

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I wear an apron for baking bread and making "special" meals when friends are coming — just so my tidier clothes stay more or less tidy… but I can't imagine high heels ever having done much for cullinary history. I'm a shoeless chef.

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Shoes in the home, hmmm, I forgot about that. Mom and friends used to do that when company were over.

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We've been watching westerns.  I can't believe the killing.  Left,right and centre.

 

Last night we watched something about 'On the Trail of the Santa Fee" or something similar.  It was pre-civil war - John Brown vs the US calvary in Kansas and later on at Harper's Landing.  I lost track of how many were shot on both sides, or all sides for it seems that there were settlers caught in between.  Men shot off horses, off wagons, off rooftops, in windows, behind fences, under wagons, in barns, and finally around the amunition depot at Harper's Ferry. 

After the movie, I googled events - yes there were killings - probably it would take both hands to count them all - but not nearly as many as I saw in an hour and a half last night.

 

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Ah, westerns. If there was as much shooting going on in real life as happens in those movies, the US Mid-west would have been seriously de-populated cheeky. I'm not a huge Western fan though, as always with me, there are exceptions. For instance, I like Clint Eastwood's Westerns but that's more being a fan of Clint than of the genre.

 

Mendalla

 

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someone mention Westerns?

 

 

 

How meta!

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