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Break Ups

I watched an interesting episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer yesterday.

 

Buffy was in  College.  I have been watching this for a few days.  This one guy was "chasing her" he stopped by her dorm room etc.  He finally asked her out on a date.   She slept with him on the first date (they had been friends for awhile)  and he promised to call.  He never did.  She found him using the same line that he used on her (on Monday morning they slept together Friday night) about how his Dad died etc.  She confronted him awkwardly about "what is going on" etc.  He said that he thought he made it clear that he wanted no attachments.   At the end of the episode Buffy was talking to her friend Willow and Willow told her that it was not her fault Parker was just a poophead.  Buffy had a broken heart.

 

A woman vampire loved Spike (who was evil and just using her for sex) he was physically and verbally abusive.  At one point she asked him why he was so mean to her and he said "Love hurts baby"  At the end of the show she realized he never loved her and was totally heartbroken.

 

Another woman had a one night stand with one of Buffy's male friends and was heartbroken that that did not make a relationship.

Buffy kills Spike at the end of the episode.

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Here are MY thoughts about this show:

 

Why the heck did my minister ban this supposedly evil show?  What good life lessons between all the vampire killings....

 

Relationships are not easy.  Now that I have joined the world of the broken hearted I have an empathy for these characters that I never had before.  Now my relationship was more "grown up" as my ex and I were not in College and we did not have a one night stand.  The show is suggesting something about one night stands but it is deeper than that.  Buffy knew this guy for awhile they hung out together.  Spike and the woman vampire were living together.  Their relationship was the worst.

So here are my thoughts on break ups:  It does not matter if you are the one who broke up....you can still have a broken heart.  There are signs outside the relationship that others can see that you can't.  It was funny the others in the show could see that the woman vampire was in a bad relationship and the other woman who slept with Buffy's male friend as the audience you could see that,   My friends did not like my ex.  My family did not like my ex.  Buffy's friends liked her bf.  So just because your friends like someone does not mean that they are good.  I think Willow summed it up well at the end of the show.   "You are allowed to make mistakes"  Buffy then asked Willow if it would always be this way.  Willow said "only the poopheads"

 

What are your thoughts on this show (the deepness) or on breakups in general?

 

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Serena wrote:

 

What are your thoughts on this show (the deepness) or on breakups in general?

 

 

I've never really watched this show so I can't comment on the show or the break-ups that you've posted about, Serena.

 

You Topic subject reminds me of the Neil Sedaka song . . . "They say that breaking up is hard to do.  Now I know, I know that it's true.  Don't say that this is the end.  Instead of breaking up I wish that we were making up again.

 

While I agree that the one who does the break up make also have some pain or a semblance of a broken heart, I think that the one who has been broken up with, especially if they do not want the relationship to end, probably will have the deepest hurt and the longest healing time.  Generally the one breaking up wants out of the relationship, even if they still have some feelings.  A lot of times their pain is prior to the breaking up, their pain is in having to hurt someone.  And although it still might be difficult they may feel relief once it is over.

 

I have been the one to end some relationships, I have also been on the receiving end of being broken up with.  By far, for me, being broken up with was more difficult, because I still had feelings for someone who didn't feel the same way about me.

 

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So I am following my Buffy series every night.  I missed it on Tuesday cause I was talking to too many guys on the phone.  That is not right I should not give up my new favourite show to talk to guys.

 

Willow's bf slept with another woman but claims he does not remember the act because he was a wolf at the time.  His wolf woman gf tried to kill WIllow but he stopped her by killing her then he turned on Willow b/c he was fully wolf then.  Buffy stopped him.  Then he decided he had to leave civilization because he was getting to dangerous and could hurt someone.  He told Willow that she was the only one he has ever loved and will ever love.  Willow was crying when he left.

 

When Willow caught her bf and the other woman in bed she immediately left the room and did not think about what she was doing and where she was walking and walked in front of a moving vehicle.  But a TA from College saved her.

 

Ah love it surely bites. 

 

One wonders if it is truly worth it in the end to even try.

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Serena wrote:

So I am following my Buffy series every night.  I missed it on Tuesday cause I was talking to too many guys on the phone.  That is not right I should not give up my new favourite show to talk to guys.

 

Willow's bf slept with another woman but claims he does not remember the act because he was a wolf at the time.  His wolf woman gf tried to kill WIllow but he stopped her by killing her then he turned on Willow b/c he was fully wolf then.  Buffy stopped him.  Then he decided he had to leave civilization because he was getting to dangerous and could hurt someone.  He told Willow that she was the only one he has ever loved and will ever love.  Willow was crying when he left.

 

When Willow caught her bf and the other woman in bed she immediately left the room and did not think about what she was doing and where she was walking and walked in front of a moving vehicle.  But a TA from College saved her.

 

Ah love it surely bites. 

 

One wonders if it is truly worth it in the end to even try.

 

Have you gotten to the episode "Hush" yet? I think it's about the best episode of anything that's ever been on television and I think a lot of people agree with that. If you haven't seen it yet, I think it's later in the season you're now watching.

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What is "Hush" about?

 

I am watching Buffy again tonight.  Big plans for a snowed in Friday night,

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I don't want to give too much away but the unique thing about it is that it's a primarily silent episode. The monsters of the story, "the gentlemen" cause everyone in Sunnydale to be mute. Other than a few minutes at the beginning and at the end there is no talking in the episode and yet the story is told completely and very well. Also at the end Buffy's secret is revealed to a charcter who will be significant for a season or two and his secret is revealed in turn.

The one where Oz leaves that you mentioned is #6 season 4, Hush is #10, so it's coming soon.

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So, probably Thursday.

 

Yes, the other guy who is also a vampire fighter is a better match for Buffy all around than that first guy she had.

 

But Angel is back and I always thought Angel and Buffy were meant to be.  So I don't know.  Buffy still loves Angel and Angel still loves Buffy.

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Beloved; If you HAVE to break up cuz the other was untruthful in a big way the break up hurts pretty bad too.  I just can't  trust him anymore and without trust love can't exist.

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The Gentlemen were on on Tuesday last week.  Very good episode.  I missed Buffy last night cuz I was at the spiritual enlightening meeting.  I look forward to Buffy every night.  I haven't gotten interested in a series for awhile so this is good.

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Sounds fun finding a new show.

 

Re breaks ups, what do I think? Well, I've been dumped twice.

 

The first time I knew something was wrong and I kept bugging him to tell me, not dreaming it might be that he didn't want me any more. But he told me he wanted to see other girls and he didn't want to be dating me any more, but we would still be special to each other. Yeah right eh? I left crying, his Dad wondering what had happened, and sat alone at the bus stop in the dark for who knows how long til the bus came, went home and cried on my mom's shoulder. I went into a sort of mourning for a few months. It really hurt. He was my first boyfriend, my first kiss and make out. I was 16, and I got over it though. By going out with someone else, someone bad.

 

Enter boyfriend #2. "Peter", who I wrote about in my unrequited love thread. The bad boy who went mean and abusive on me, because I was so easy to abuse, allready hurt and feeling inadequate as I was. But he didn't have the guts to tell me it was over in the end, he just let it fizzle out, me unsure whether we were still an item or not. The whole thing was one big rejection, after the initial first happy month.

 

So I didn't have another official boyfriend after that until my husband. I was very careful.

 

I'm lucky I supose, not having endured many dumpings.

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Serena wrote:

What are your thoughts on this show (the deepness) or on breakups in general?

 

 

I've never seen the show. I've never broken up with anyone.

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for a long time, this show was one of the best for showing real emotions, real responses to things, considering how fake it is with vampires and evil bad demons ;)

The whole series (mostly) portrayed some excellent relationship issue stuff, which was great b/c we've watched lots of it with our teens  (my son still wants us to skip the kissing!!)

And Spike, for how violent he is/has been/ embodies - actually has some amazing moments of intelligence around the whole thing, often when being the cynic.  He has been treated badly in the past, and will be in the future (UM - have you watched the previous seasons?)

I wish they had not cluttered up the last couple of seasons with so many characters because the show lost a lot in the depth & complexity of relationships, imo.  Buffy needed to work on her set-apart-ness/call issues and how she related to friends/Spike/Angel/Giles.

 

Hush was good, but my favourite was earlier on when all the adults were acting like teenagers - brilliant fun!! 

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SOunds like I may need to get into that show at some point.

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Serena wrote:

The Gentlemen were on on Tuesday last week.  Very good episode.  I missed Buffy last night cuz I was at the spiritual enlightening meeting.  I look forward to Buffy every night.  I haven't gotten interested in a series for awhile so this is good.

I'm glad you liked it. It's always been one of my favorites.

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Well Buffy moved on to a new much better love. She would be dead without him. Riley actually overcame the computer chip in his central nervous system to save Buffy from three evil undead guys.

Willow moved on after her bf Oz left to a gf. She got the chance to get her bf back and did not take him back.

Xander and Onya seem pretty tight.

I must admit I am a little torn. I don't get to watch it tonight cuz my new guy who is auditioning for the role of bf will be over tonight and he hates this show. Too bad mt vcr does not work.....

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