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Fifteen, in love with Twenty-Seven ?

 Alright, 

basically, I'm fifteen and in love with someone way older than me. 

We're sort of dating now, though no one really knows. 

Could this work out? 

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Hi  and welcome Moosya.

 

no, i don't think it will work out and I hope that you cut off the dating.

 

27 is a man.  If he is interested in you , a child, there is something wrong .  this is statutory rape if he has sex with you and totally wrong.

 

 

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Hello Moosya and welcome to WonderCafe.

 

Moosya wrote:

Could this work out? 

 

If you were 88 and he was 100 nobody would blink.

 

You aren't 88 though.

 

Right now at the basic age of 15 Canadian law is concerned with any relationship you have with anybody 5 years or more older than you.

 

Right now at the basic age of 15 you are almost half this fellow's age.

 

I'm sure that you are very mature for a 15 year old.  I doubt that you are mature enough to pass for 27. 

 

I do not think that the long-term prospects for this relationship are in your favour. 

 

That the two of you are sort of dating with nobody knowing doesn't speak to a healthy relationship.

 

I imagine that this is not what you want to hear.  It is the only position I would take on the matter.

 

Grace and peace to you.

John

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 Hi Moosya,

 

I also agree with the previous posts, this relationship won't work.

 

Even if currently you're a good match maturity-wise (which is difficult to imagine), he would have to be fairly immature.  (I'm sorry, but even the most mature 15 yr old is not going to be as mature as the average 27 year old).  So if you're already meeting his maturity level, in a year or two's time you will be far beyond him.

 

Trust me, when you're in your teens it's best to stick to dating someone within a year or two of your own age.

 

There is something wrong with a 27 year old who is interested in a 15 year old.  Best case scenario is that he is immature, but the best thing most likely is to break off all contact with him.

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Moosya

 

I have to agree.....

 

A 27-year old and a 15 year old are inappropriate together. 

I'm unsure what genders you are, but it really doesn't matter.

 

A 15 year old is not out of highschool yet, is considered a minor by law, and in practice has a long way to go to grow up (no matter how your life has been).  I have  19 & a 15 year old.

 

I can't imagine a 19 & a 15 together, though I know sometimes it can work...if one is immature, and the other mature.  Older than that...no way.

 

Something is wrong...why isn't the older person with people their own age?

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To be honest with you, my first reaction is no way. But in reality, I see all sorts of relationships, Justin and Demi and they are how many years apart.  I don't know if its a case of mature or not; if it is what does it say about Demi.

 

But be honest with yourself, do you feel you've reached your limit, that your opinions on life won't change, opinions on yourself won't change? If you look around at all the guys, including the stars (ie: Jonas Brothers), do you really want to attach yourself only to one person already?  If you think about all the things you want to do in life (go traveling, university, etc.), do you want to give that all up? I know your saying, I can be in a relationship and do all this too, but do you know how much harder it is to do that same stuff?.

 

All I'm trying to say is don't attach yourself to anything permantly just yet, the world still has lots to offer you, and you have so much to gain from just living.  It's too typical, to want to be in a relationship, stand out from the crowd and have a relationship with life instead.

 

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Girl, I'm fifteen too. And I can totally see it from your point of view.

Everyone else thinks, "15 and 27?? Nope too old, no way." People telling you it's wrong or you shouldn't be doing this does not really solve your problem. You can't help it if you like him or not, right?

And by the way, I can totally see why you'd like someone that's that much older. They're so much more mature, chivalrous, and care about things that an air-headed adolescent boy wouldn't care about. They have so much more experience, and so many more interesting and actually thoughful conversations. I can see why you'd fall for an older man.

It's just that, you're so young. I'm not saying it's becuase of your age that you can't be with him, I'm saying that you've got your whole life in front of you! We're so young, and trust, you are going to have many more opportunities to fall in love than now. Why tie yourself down with such a large burden now?? Trust me, time heals. By the time you're in university or college, all of the guys will be more mature, chivalrous, experienced, and thoughtful. You will be too. Suddenly, this man won't seem so amazing once you've gotten a real chance at life and at seeing that there's many more fish in the sea. And you can actually date them without having anyone blink an eye.

And besides, what is love anyways? We're way too young to know. How can you, at the age of fifteen, honestly say that you're in love? You've barely scratched the surface of life, so don't be so rash as to say you're in love. A lot of fifteen year old girls have "been in love" countless times already. Later on they'll probably look back (and don't tell me you haven't done this before) and think, "wow, I liked that guy?? What was I thinking?".

All I'm saying is, give yourself another chance.

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Actually the law says a man of 27 can't be with a girl of 15.  Not just people. 

 

A man of 27 , who is interested in a child of 15 is not mature and worldly.  If he was he wouldn't be interested in someone so young.

 

Girls often think they get the interest of older men because they are personnaly so "mature".  It is actually the other way around.  The man of 27 is so immature that he can't attract a mature woman.

 

Get away from this guy.  That doesn't mean you have to date guys who are 15.  You are right, they may very well still be too young , as boys do mature later than girls.  This 27 year old is definately maturing a decade later than most guys

 

if i were your parents i would report him to the police

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Okay. First of all don't report him to the Police, not yet anyways. You should talk to him about these feelings and doubts you have. You two should sit down and talk about this huge age gap between you. Maybe both of you will realize that you're too far apart and wait or just come apart.

I must say though that in most cases, I'd say that he's too old. But I can't give a yes or no without knowing either of you. So I have given you the best advice I could as a 3rd person's point of view. I hope you figure this out.

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 Greetings. In the past the differences between the male and female in age were much higher than they are today. Yes, true, our current society has a different view on all of this. But before marriages lasted, right? The only difference is that our society evolved and now it a marriage between i.e 15 year old girl and 27 year old man does not fall into the norms. 

Rationally speaking, I would say this would not work out. But we, human beings, are emotional creatures. We can't turn on and off feelings like a light switch. Nobody can prevent you from loving, even secretly seeing somebody. But my advise is this:
1) CAREFULLY analyze the intentions of that person. 
2) Be objective (truthful to yourself), imagine this situation from a 3rd perspective, a neutral bystander, and try your best to not let your personal feelings (i.e love) affect your judgment.
3) Get more information on that person, the more you know the better your judgment will be. Get information on his friends, family, etc. (social life).

Anyways, Good Luck
Suriv

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I'm troubled not only by the difference in your ages, but also because you think that you need to see him secretly. 

 

Ask yourself, why?

 

Wouldn't you be happier with somebody that you could introduce to your parents and include in the family barbeque?  Somebody that you could invite to meet your friends and do something together - movie, party, game? 

 

Why the secrecy? 

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 Welcome to Wondercafe Moosja.

To be honest with you I do not know if your relationship will work out for you?

What do you mean by "work out"? Do you mean a long term relationship?

 

Your guy could be a good catch or not. I do not really know. Celine Dion meet her husband when she was younger then you and he was older then your friend. 

 

However you face a lot of of different challenges with not so much the age difference, but with being 15. As you can see you would recieve little support in your relationship from others while you are under 18. That alone makes it difficult. Plus the resulting need to keep it secret is another.

 

However you might be different from other 15 year olds. I would need to know more about you?  How much support do you recieve from your family? Can you talk to them. Is you Dad  and Mom alive, or around?  

 

Do you you have close relationships with other people? These are things that are important if you want to maintain a long term relationship.  

 

What are your interests?u know what you want out of life? career plans?

 

It is important that people we choose to be with will support us in our interests.  As a 15 year old it is likely you are still discovering who you are? What ever happens with your boyfriend, it is in my opinion more important to success in life to have people who love who as you are, with whom you have a non-romantic relationship.. The potential problem with all boyfriends is that they might not be able to change with you as you change.

 

If you want to continue in the relationship I suggest you form some friendships with people with whom you can safely talk to about it. 

 

If you have no one now you can talk to try emailing some of the people here.

Especially try connecting with people with whom there is no potential of any sexual interest. Other Women or maybe a gay teen might be able to relate. Try several people unitl you find someone.

 

You might also want to consider talking with some of the straight older men to get a different perspective, however its hard to know which ones are safe and as well understanding. Just from reading there  posts  and as well from personal experience I would recommend RevJamesMurray and RevMatt. Also from his posts I would believe RevJohn would be another guy you could safely connect with. 

 

Remember whatever you do, there are people you can talk to.

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hey Moosya

I think this relationship is fine if he is a good guy. Remember - love IS blind. This guy could be perfect for you. But also you have to be careful, you never know and its easy for people to lie. But if you are absolutly sure you can trust the guy and he feels the same about you then roll with it-you only live once, so why not try it all? good lucks! -R

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I stll have a problem with the secrecy is it your idea or his? It seems to shifty to me as if you are reasonably sure thaat it is wrong

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Be very careful.  The secrecy is a bad sign.  If he loves you he will wait until you are 18.

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It can work out, but it may not be best for you.

I always think that true love has no age limit, but think of it this way. If you eventually break up, you will by human nature want to talk it out with someone that cares about you. Well, and you're being very secretive. Do the math.

All luck to you,

-Val.

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Just a little interruption to say Hello to Amberforever, Lickof frost, Impossible (Suriv). Welcome to the Wondercafe.

 

On the subject matter, I've already gave my opinion, except I want to point out that our three other new comers are all in the same age bracket, and I have to say they all sound so very intellegent to me.  Impossible is a guy, is there really that much of a gap between girls and boys?  Maybe I'm just to old to see the difference.

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I have to agree with what has been said before. I do understand why you would be interested in a person his age. I do not believe this is a good relationship, right now. If you were over 20 and he was that much older than you, it would different for the reasons already mentioned. I also agree that the secrecy is a big concern. That tells me you already believe there is reaspn to hide the relationship. That can't be fun for you. If he is asking you to keep the relationship a secret, that is a big problem. He could be a predator. If he is a teacher or in a similar role to you, then he is definitely breaking the law. You may want to talk to a counsellor if this is the case. Take care.

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Hope all is well with you, Moosya...

If you feel compelled to continue this relationship, bring it into the light. Tell everyone about it and let the chips fall where they may. At the very least you will be safer (physically and emotionally) because other people who care about you will know what you are going through.  And you will get to see how your boyfriend reacts to your relationship being public knowledge.

 

I had a secretive-type relationship when I was 21 and it was not a healthy situation.  He made me feel really special and yet... it was all on his terms, as he was 17 years older than me, and was in a relationship (his wife didn't understand him, can you imagine?!)...  Nothing physical ever happened but I still got my heart stomped on.  And couldn't really share the pain...

 

take care of yourself

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 I wouldn't say that having a relationship with a man at your age is exceedingly smart, but I can understand. I mean, love is limitless and great, but in your case if anyone finds out, your man would be in serious trouble.

If you really love him, you should wait until you are at least 18. That way he will have less of a chance of being in a bad situation with the law.

 

I am seventeen and in love with a man who is thirty-three, so I guess I know what you are talking about. However, we are not in a relationship - we are just plain friends. Well, very good friends, but nothing more than that. I am very careful about how I act and whom I tell. He has been my friend for 3 years, I plan on waiting 3 more years in order to get my life into place and wait for the perfect moment to tell him about how I feel.

That sort of relationship you have may be rushed... think before you act. 

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Well Mooysa you have got a mixed bag of advice here.  Here's a related story.  When I was 27 I dated a girl who was 22, and it was really easy for me because she was super easy to impress.  It did wonders for my self esteem, but it was hollow because she was completely niave and totally idealized me, because she was inexperienced.

That girl was 7 years older than you, and she was still niave and had no idea what to expect from relationships. 

Anyone on this site telling you to go for it with this grown man is really setting you up for a guaranteed giant disaster. Those people would only give that advice because they are as niave as you are.  Don't take advice from anyone who is niave, sheltered, and who says love is blind.  They are suggesting that you ignore plainly obvious facts when making your decision, and that is about the most dangerous advice in the world. 

The fact this guy is even pursuing a relationship with you is creepy and wrong, not just legally, but also wrong in the sense that he is taking advantage of you. 

I am sure it doesn't feel like it to you, but you really haven't begun to understand what men, and the grown up world are really like.  This guy is using all of that to his advantage.

If he is already a 27 year old man, and he is still into 15 year olds, ask yourself, what are the chances he won't still be into 15 year olds when you are 27? 

Don't worry because you'll never find out, because this will be over way before then anyway.  But it will end badly guaranteed, do yourself a favor, spare yourself the humiliating nightmare coming.

 

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Moosya,

All the advice has been given above I won't bore you with more. But the legal points above are good ones. Regardless of whether this is "real" love (whatever that is) or not, any sexual relationship may get this man arrested, you and he have to know that.

Since last year the age of consent to sexual contact (as Rev. John accurately noted above) is 16.  It used to be 14.  The only exception is someone who is within 5 years of your age (that means 5 years minus at least one day of your age). If the person is more than 5 years your age and you are 14 or 15, than he could be charged with Sexual Assault.   If the older person is in any sort of a position of trust with you (ie. youth leader, clergy, counselor, teacher etc.) than the legal age of consent is even higher at age 18.

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Moosya wrote: "Alright, basically, I'm fifteen and in love with someone way older than me. We're sort of dating now, though no one really knows. Could this work out?"

 

EZ Answer: Simple test.  Invite him to dinner with your parents to introduce him as your boyfriend.  If he accepts the dinner invitation, see where the relationship goes. 

 

If he doesn't accept the dinner invitation, for whatever good reason, then think long and hard.

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Well someone has to say it straight up...

 

If this man is romantically interested in you, then he is a pedophile.

 

If you do start a relationship with him, and it does last any time at all, then by the time you're 19 or so, he'll be looking for another 15 year old.

 

Reality is harsh. Harlequin Romance novels are crap.

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witch is exactly right, I have a relative who is a pedophile and I know that with him as with many others, the age attraction stays no matter how old the person gets. This relative of mine has gone through 3 marriages where the woman is staying the same age, and has been arrested within the past 7 years for posessing child pornography.

How did you two meet?  I hope it wasnt through any place where he was a figure of authority. 

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hey. i've dealt with something a lot like this before. it was last year, and i was even your age. all my friends told me he was just trying to get in my pants because of his age, but i didn't believe them. i dated him and he seemed really nice but  he almost never talked to me. then later i found out that my friends were right. all he wanted was to have sex with me. i got my heart broken.
 

you may not want to hear what i have to say, and if that's the case, you will only do what YOU feel is right. you may make it seem okay because 'these people don't know the whole story' but you wouldn't be asking other people for advice if you weren't really concerned. I say that you move on and don't look back because you will be happier with someone your own age, but i can't really trust you will do this. you will only do what you think you should do... all you want is for me to tell you what you want to hear, but unfortunately, i can't do that. i hope you listen to what i say.

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hey. i've dealt with something a lot like this before. it was last year, and i was even your age. all my friends told me he was just trying to get in my pants because of his age, but i didn't believe them. i dated him and he seemed really nice but  he almost never talked to me. then later i found out that my friends were right. all he wanted was to have sex with me. i got my heart broken.
 

you may not want to hear what i have to say, and if that's the case, you will only do what YOU feel is right. you may make it seem okay because 'these people don't know the whole story' but you wouldn't be asking other people for advice if you weren't really concerned. I say that you move on and don't look back because you will be happier with someone your own age, but i can't really trust you will do this. you will only do what you think you should do... all you want is for me to tell you what you want to hear, but unfortunately, i can't do that. i hope you listen to what i say.

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Well Moosya,
  From my personal experience of being with a much older guy, I would tell you that you should ask him if the realationship can be put off until you're 18, and you two won't have to hide it from anyone because hiding it hurts trust and looks shady. If he loves you, he will wait.
 You can still do stuff together and be friends, but I highly recomend waiting for three more years. Because in love, is three years really that long if you can still keep contact with the person?
 You also have to take into consideration, what he doing is illegal until you're 18, and it would be unfair for him to go to jail if you two love eachother.
 When I was 14 I had a wonderful realationship with a much older guy, and we broke it off a while ago, agreeing that it was better being friends. So, there's nothing wrong, you can have a realationship that may flourish. It's really only in Western and European culture where the age differences matter.
 I wish you luck, Moosya!
 ~JCheshire
 P.S. If you ever want someone to talk to about this kind of stuff, feel free to contact me!

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He hit puberty when you were born. Do you really think this is a healthy person to be dating?  

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How the heck did you even meet at 27 year old at your age?  When I was 15, I was more concerned about vanity and my best friends.  

I'm with Witch on this one, well put by the way!

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I don't know how strong your love actually is if you need to ask people you don't really know to tell you what to do with your relationship. Personally, I beleive that true love is above the limits of age(and gender, for that matter).

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Bernkastel wrote:

I don't know how strong your love actually is if you need to ask people you don't really know to tell you what to do with your relationship. Personally, I beleive that true love is above the limits of age(and gender, for that matter).

 

So if both of them were three years younger, he 24 and she 12, that would be OK too?

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Sorry but all this talk about love being without age limits is a load of immature crapola. As witch's question above illustrates, age DOES matter. Do you know where you are sure to hear that age doesn't matter? From a pedophile. In fact there is an entire group of men - named for an ancient philosopher - dedicated to making the sexual "love" of children acceptable.

 

Please please please listen to those here who are telling you to get out of this trap immediately. A 27 year old man who dates a 15 yeare old is NOT mature - he is sick and has some serious issues that you do NOT want to get poisoned by.

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Okay hun, this couldn't work out. If you were 30 and he was 50, then it could work out. But your a child, and if u two have done anything then it counts as rape. There is obviously something wrong with him. Watch yourself, and i suggest you end this relationship. Soon.

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Right now your love is inappropriate.  If you were 20 and he was 32 it would be okay . . . but your not.  You being together is illegal and not without reason.  At 27 he will want to move a lot faster in a relationship than you should and you are at very different places in your lives.  How could you possibly introduce him to your parents right now?  They would think there was something seriously wrong with him.  If you really love each other it would be better to break it off for now.  If you are meant to be together I'm sure you will find each other again 5 years down the road.

I definitely understand how you and he feel.  I currently am interested in someone who is almost 5 years younger than me but I haven't acted on those feelings because he is too young.  As an adult it would be very inappropriate for me to act on my feelings and put him in the situation you are in right now.

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 well.... when i grew up as a kid my mom and my step father were 19 [just about 20] years apart from eachother.  So... people still look at them today and when they ask how old they are from each other, they are very suprised. I have to say though is that as long as he is a nice guy, go for it.

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If he was a nice 27 year old guy, he wouldn't be screwing around with a fifteen year old kid

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Honestly, 15??

 

Is a horney and scary time for a lot of young women.  You need therapy, not a father figure to f***.  This is what your mother wants to tell you and if your father is not absent, abusive or raping you, he wants to tell you this as well. 

 

Run away run away. Don't look back, either.  The guy is a pedophile.   No. I am not guessing or an envious old maid.  I am nearing 50, have lived long enough not to have died yet ( accidently, I am sure) and can guarentee my knowledge on this account.  Believe it or not, my words are meant to ring compassionate for you but if I were my sister, a social worker of 25 years experience with suicide, incest, rape, family abuse and just dysfunctional families, my words would sound more soothing and understanding but absolutely no less absolute. Get away, baby-girl 'cause you is one ( a baby girl).  And do, please, follow up with some great therapy.  Maybe you and your mom and dad could get together on that.

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Men over 20 shouldn't be screwing around with 15 year olds in general! A kid of that age doesn't know what the heck it wants.

It all seems easy and breezy when you're a child, but what about the consequences? There's no thoughts! Careless action like that gets you either in a cell, or in therapy. Don't be ignorant, but be responsible for yourself and your actions.

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I feel a little strange having this be my introductory post, but nobody's expressed a perspective or opinion close to mine, and I have some experience in this department.

When I was 30, after a combined relationship and financial disaster, and at a weak point in my life - really on the verge of self-destructing - I was pursued by a 16-yr-old girl who took a summer job in the building where I had my office.

At first, she presented and acted like a woman in her 20s, and even after I found out how old she was, I found her impossible to resist.

I kept us a secret at first because she insisted out of fear her father would kill one of us, but afterwards met with her family - confronted is more accurate - and attended their church for a time.

To make a long story short, we became lovers and I stood between her and an abusive home situation, ultimately extracting her from it and setting her up in her own apartment. We never moved in together and I tried to give her as much freedom to live and grow as she needed.

After supporting her for a little over two years and helping her deal with getting employed and into university, I left her. I gave different reasons at the time or she would have fought to keep me, but really I didn't want to hold her back from experiencing whatever she needed to on her own terms, and that got hard to do.

A couple of years later she took custody of her younger siblings when her toxic parents split up, and she was able to help them. We're still friends, but she's married to someone else now.

I think our relationship was ultimately healing for both of us, and I think part of her attraction to me was an intuitive knowledge that I was a viable way out of a bad situation. I haven't ever pursued anyone else her age, and I'm now in a stable committed relationship with a woman only 3 years my junior.

I see a lot of black-and-white statements in other people's responses to this, but my own experience tells me that things aren't always so clear-cut.

I've been called a criminal and a pedophile and .. well not worse, because there's not much worse. The only response I have to all that - and it's a good one - is that she's happy, healthy, and better off for having found me. I actually chatted with her earlier tonight so I know she's doing fine.

I don't think Moosya has given enough information for any advice beyond "keep your eyes open and take care of yourself first" and "find someone to talk to about it".

Also, look at the responses above, because they represent most of society's reaction and the two of you will have to deal with that somehow. As harsh as some of what they've said may sound, these people are being civilized about it. A lot of people won't be, and that can be dangerous as well as isolating and demoralizing.

That's all for now. Anxiously awaiting the inevitable flames.

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Hi, Moosya, like many people above, I say that it is not only ilegal but he is probably only with you because of your age. I don't think you need therapy at all (maybe you do, I don't know you at all so I can't make that call) but I think you should ask yourself why it is you like someone so much older than you. And if he honestly is in love with you because of you and not your age then he'll wait untill you are legal. In 50 years no body would think twice about the two of you being together because you will know more about the workings of the world, life and relationships but right now, you don't (haha listen to me talkin' like I'm older than 16 ). Any way, good luck.

 

Peace

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Sorry Moosya, it won't really work...he's just at a different point in life.  You have a lot of life to look forward to.  You'll look back when you're 27 and say "Wow, I was so different at 15".  Don't forget to have fun and enjoy your teenage years, and then your twenties!  But yeah, as 27 year old is just too old.  And he should know that....

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Sebb - you seem older than 16 to me!!!!

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You may be falling for him... but keep this in mind.

 

Why is a 27 year old being with a 15 year old?  Is he not mature enough to be with someone of his own age?   Are you his trophy?  Do you think that he might joke around with his friends about being with you?

 I'm 20, and a female.  I've dated older men before.. and in my personal experience, men who go out and try and hang out and date with younger girls has an underlined or hidden agenda.  Be careful.... why can't he be with someone his own age?  Why doesn't he hang out with girls of his own age? 

 

 Guys at that age who are immature still, are most likely to be set in their ways....

 

Make sure you aren't arm candy girlie.

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Right now, I'm dating a 30 year old.  Me and him met at work, and he is the best thing that has ever happened to me.  I've been in many different types of relationships with many different types of people.  And I know now that what I did at that age was dumb, the guys that I dated that were older... are still losers even years later. 

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yvrguy wrote:

Sebb - you seem older than 16 to me!!!!

 

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Sumner Kagan, I do find myself nodding as I read your post. If anyone were to ever ask me if I believed that a relationship with a big age difference could survive, my answer would be yes.

 

It is just that, it is not that simple at all. A 15 year old could not date a man just because he is older. And a man could not go out with a girl just because "she is cute". That is ignorance. A relationship goes beyond just that.

 

I know, because my best friend is a man 16 years older than myself. He is 33. We have never been anything more than friends. I do not need a second father figure, because my father is the best a daughter could ask for. I do not need "someone to go out with because I have troubles with guys." However, I am dedicated to this friendship, because this man is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I respect him. We help each other. He respects me. I love him dearly, but if we are going to be anything more than friends, it will happen at least 3 more years down the road.

 

It is a good thing you have done, Sumner. When both parties benefit from a mutual relationship, no matter the age difference, that is when life becomes even more beautiful.

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I am embarrassed to say that when I was 16, I dated a 25yr old guy.  I thought he was so mature and thoughtful and blah blah blah...we kept it a secret too...for obvious reasons.  He turned out to be engaged to a pregnant woman his age as he cheated on her regularily with more under aged girls than just me...he was a pervert that targeted niave girls like me to get his kicks.  He was a sckeeze ball. 

 

I also had a friend that when she was 15 (she is 33 now) she dated a 25 year old and with her parents permission the two of them got married.  They have 4 kids and are still together.  The sad thing is that when he was 15, he raped his 6 year old sister (this was not public knowledge, nor is it now to his wife or family) and sadly his wife was a victom of molestation when she was a child (this was not know to him or the public either). 

 

Things could work out for the two of you, but what is it that makes it work between a 15 and 27 year old?  Please love and respect yourself enough to understand where the "attraction" is coming from.  If this is a relationship that you are NOT ashamed of, tell your mom and see what her thoughts are, she is probably more mature than either you or your man so her advice should be worth considering. 

 

My advice is, when you are in your 30's or 40's, it's easier to find things in common with people that are not your age but when you only have 15 years of life experience......it is a mistake to assume that age difference this great doesn't matter.  Talk to a mature adult that you trust, I am worried for you. 

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At the age of 15 you are basically an adult.  Except that 27 years old IS actually an adult and he could and probably is manipulating you,

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Well can we hear back from Moosya?

Did you take the squirrel's advice and bring him to a family supper?

Keep us posted!

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Hey, I'm seventeen. And I have a friend, that I see evryday at school, she is my age, she had a boyfriend that was 30 last year, they were in love. It seemed like no bounds on Earth could split them up, until they took their relationship to a sexual level, that's when her parents got concerned; pretty soon, they were regularily having sex, this is when it turned ugly, see in Canada it's against the law for anyone over the age of 18 to have sex with a minor. Her parents being concerned got police involved, and he was charged.

Even if you love him, and he loves you. According to laws, it's wrong.

To me, age doesn't matter, if your an adult, but being underage, age is a fator. If you were 18 and he were five or six years older, it wouldn't be as bad .

 

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Your feelings for this guy are natural, the thing is different folk mature at different ages.

Me? heck, I thought I had it all on the ball but until you get to a place where things become more clear in their nature as a whole as far as our life's journey.

I looked older at 15 & was dating girls much older, but I didn't realy have a clue.

Love & a relationship in the nature of love between two indeviduals takes great sacrifice sometimes.

But not in the form of an abuse & to me if a man who is 27 & sexually active with a 15 year old is, because IMHO to give ones sexual concent is a very adult choice to make, for a young 15 tear old of any sex to make.

Different people may see this differently & that's OK for them I guess.

But I wouldn't like my daughter to be sexually active at all at 15, never mind with a 27 Y/O man.

I dated a 17 Y/O girl at 26, but I didn't sleep with her until she was 18 after a year & a half of knowing her.

We hopefully come to grips with the understanding that we are not always in control of things & we are mortal beings.

I don't think I grew up until I was 47 years old, & I'm still learning.

 

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