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Angels Help Man In Distress

 

This is an amazing story ----True or False you decide ------

 

Angels help man who was crushed by 10,000 lbs truck axle fall -

 

Published on Apr 15, 2012

 

Bruce Van Natta had an injury that 10,000 lbs truck axle fell on him. He saw two angels was holding him at that moment. He had 5 major arteries severed and he was not expected to live more than a few hours. However, God healed him miraculously. 

 

 


 

 

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Haven't watched the video but I believe stuff like this happens all the time. What we may "experience" as angels is more than likely subject to our response mechanism, i.e. we experience what we expect to experience but the source of the energy could be something very different. The fact is, and at least "the facts" accordingly to my belief and experience structure, is that we're not alone in this world.

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Hi Neo ---your post -- We're not alone in this world.

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Airclean--I believe this to be a true statment.  As I know He is with us.We may not see the same all the time Neo. But now and then  are beliefs do cross. I watched the vid. I think you mite injoy it. He is right the angels  are taller than us. Have a good day.  airclean33

 

 

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Hi airclean    I to thought the video was very informative  ---and had a great ending ----and I personally believe -----

 

God Bless Brotheryes

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Here is one for you Neo -----Reincarnation ----very interesting

 

The Boy Who Lived Before

 

Published on Jun 1, 2013

Cameron, ever since he was just a toddler, talks about another family he used to live with, called the Robertsons. Cameron knows the names of his previous family, where they lived, and can even describe the house and the landscape of his previous home on the island of Barra, some 200 miles away. But Cameron has never been there. Doctor Jim Tucker, of the University of Virginia, and Cameron's mother travel to Barra with Cameron to find the house, exactly as Cameron described.

 


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Hi unsafe

What an interesting story about Cameron. There is another famous one but I can't recall the exact name.... Bridey Murphy ...sp..? in Ireland I believe. I have a tendency to believe that reincarnation is very possible. I have read and studied a lot about it. There is also a famous Jewish psychiatrist who has been helping people who believe they died during the holocaust and have been  reincarnated. I believe he had to cut short his working hours or possibly retire because there were too many cases to handle.

 

The angel story...YES....I believe it. Angels are often described as being very tall, 8 to 10 feet.  This story appears to be a true miracle in that he survived.

 

We simply don't and can't know everything about the marvellous often mysterious happenings   in this universe. It would be very arrogant and ignorant of us to presume that we do.

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Hi stardust 

 

I thought The story on Cameron was very interesting as well -----There is a really famous reincarnation story about a girls in India as well who like this boy kept telling her parents that she had lived before and was stabbed by her husband who was still in prison at the time for her murder  --she described her other Mother and Father --the house that she lived in etc ---and at 6 or7 years old her parents took her to the place she said she had lived before and she took them right to the house and there were her parents who had her in her previous life ---the parents recognized her and she recognized them and leaped into the arms of her previous Mother -----They showed a clipping from the Newspaper that told of her stabbing and that the man was in prison ---They ask her in this documentary if she was going to the prison to see her then husband and she said no that she had forgiven him so there was no need to see him ----The last I heard of that story was that the previous parents were going to court to see if they could get custody of this girl ----I don't know what happened after that ---it was a documentary on the vision Tv channel a long while ago now -----she too said that God ask her if she wanted to go back ----We don't know what is in store for us -------

 

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stardust wrote:

We simply don't and can't know everything about the marvellous often mysterious happenings   in this universe. It would be very arrogant and ignorant of us to presume that we do.

 

stardust wrote:

The angel story...YES....I believe it. Angels are often described as being very tall, 8 to 10 feet.

 
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I think I did hear about the little girl from India and there are or were other similiar stories  from there.  Here's the video about it. I didn't get a chance to watch it yet.

 

 

 

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Hi stardust 

 

Another interesting video   ------Thanks for sharing ----

 

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I liked the two men who visited him in the hospital :)

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unsafe wrote:

 

Here is one for you Neo -----Reincarnation ----very interesting

 

The Boy Who Lived Before

 

Published on Jun 1, 2013

Cameron, ever since he was just a toddler, talks about another family he used to live with, called the Robertsons. Cameron knows the names of his previous family, where they lived, and can even describe the house and the landscape of his previous home on the island of Barra, some 200 miles away. But Cameron has never been there. Doctor Jim Tucker, of the University of Virginia, and Cameron's mother travel to Barra with Cameron to find the house, exactly as Cameron described.

 



Interesting, thanks Unsafe. Recall of our past-lives is rare but there have been lots of documented reports of it.

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Hi Neo ---your post -- We're not alone in this world.

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Airclean--I believe this to be a true statment.  As I know He is with us.We may not see the same all the time Neo. But now and then  are beliefs do cross. I watched the vid. I think you mite injoy it. He is right the angels  are taller than us. Have a good day.  airclean33

 

 


I did watch the video, and at first thought the guy must've been trying out for a Darwin Award. I mean really, what kind of diesel mechanic would crawl under a big truck like that with an unsafe jack like that? But regardless, he seemed sincere about it and I can only assume that all damage was indeed done to him.. it was miraculous that he survived.

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chansen wrote:

stardust wrote:

We simply don't and can't know everything about the marvellous often mysterious happenings   in this universe. It would be very arrogant and ignorant of us to presume that we do.

 

stardust wrote:

The angel story...YES....I believe it. Angels are often described as being very tall, 8 to 10 feet.

Common religious reasoning:  "The universe is a total mystery, but I of course know all the answers!|

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Azdgari wrote:

chansen wrote:

stardust wrote:

We simply don't and can't know everything about the marvellous often mysterious happenings   in this universe. It would be very arrogant and ignorant of us to presume that we do.

 

stardust wrote:

The angel story...YES....I believe it. Angels are often described as being very tall, 8 to 10 feet.

Common religious reasoning:  "The universe is a total mystery, but I of course know all the answers!|

Anyone who believes that has a lot of room left to spiritually grow.

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Here is one for you Neo -----Reincarnation ----very interesting

 

The Boy Who Lived Before

 

Published on Jun 1, 2013

Cameron, ever since he was just a toddler, talks about another family he used to live with, called the Robertsons. Cameron knows the names of his previous family, where they lived, and can even describe the house and the landscape of his previous home on the island of Barra, some 200 miles away. But Cameron has never been there. Doctor Jim Tucker, of the University of Virginia, and Cameron's mother travel to Barra with Cameron to find the house, exactly as Cameron described.

 



Interesting, thanks Unsafe. Recall of our past-lives is rare but there have been lots of documented reports of it.

Since when does a collection of reported stories necessarily make something true?

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Dcn Jae wrote:
Since when does a collection of reported stories necessarily make something true?

Just as in the angel story above, the stories themselves doesn't "make" them true, only "interesting".

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Hi Neo

 

I believe this man who got under the truck has some warning of some kind not to go under the truck ---paying attention to the warning is all up to us -----we have free will to choose to listen to our gut feeling and go with it or to ignore it -----There are many scripture that tell us that many were warned of danger and not to go or do ----Abraham for example was told to leave all his family but disobeyed and took his brother and got into a mess because he didn't listen -----Paul was another who was told of danger didn't listen and ended up in a mess ---Acts 21 ----

 

God does not want His Children to encounter danger ----we are the ones who don't listen to a prompt of danger and get into messes by disobeying -----this is my belief -----and uneasy feeling in your gut is a prompt -----in my opinion -----I  always rely on my gut feeling and it has never failed me yet ----My son relied on his gut feeling when he did his time in Afghanistan and it saved his life ----his tank was hit by a bomber and all survived as my son had a BAD feeling that morning and talked to his officer to rearrange the seating in the tank that day and he was given permission to do so and it saved their lives ----a 3 year old girl was killed in the car the bomber drove into the tank -----it still haunts my son today ----senseless ----

 

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Hi Unsafe -- Let us not forget things in some cases are ment  to happen . Not saying this about the man under the truck is one , but could be.

 

   
  Jhn 11:11 Thus he spoke, and then he said to them, "Our friend Laz'arus has fallen asleep, but I go to awake him out of sleep."
  Jhn11:12 The disciples said to him, "Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover."
  Jhn 11:13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that he meant taking rest in sleep.
  Jhn 11:14 Then Jesus told them plainly, "Laz'arus is dead;
  Jhn 11:15 and for your sake I am glad that I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him."

I believe what  ever  happed to that man. GODS was there to heal him. .And He did so  by His power. All Glory is GODS  today as yesterday--airclean33

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I believe in angels, ministering spirits,  I have a few stories myself, one biggie that happened 10 yrs ago with a uncle dying I won’t share here , also went to a conference a few yrs back to listen to TV Host Michael Coren  speak   www.michaelcoren.com/wordpress/    , he was an avid atheist , his testimony of his best friend in journalism covering the Bosnian war being saved from a government assassin   blew me away, it was his friends testimony that began His rd to believe in Christ after he put his journalism skills to work.

 

Here is a video of a Angel dancing around a camp fire while believes are singling worship songs at a youth retreat  

 

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Well, there go all my arguments.

 

Edit: This will make you weep for humanity: 1.76 million people have watched a 10 minute video of the sun intermittently projecting through a stained glass window.

 

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Hi airclean33

 

I believe Lazarus was allowed so Jesus could perform his duty ----so you could be right although I personally believe that the death of Jesus was our inheritance of all he did on this earth ---it is a finished work of the cross ---when we accept Christ we are ourselves can do all Christ did on this earth ----healing is one of them but I don't think God would have us suffer in any kind of accident today ----I believe we get some kind of warning of the danger and when we don't listen to  the warning and something happens then I do believe that we are helped like this man was ----- I do believe that sometimes God or his angels whoever does intervene in a persons life to direct them away from danger ---as in 911 some gave testimony as to one thing or another happening that kept them from being in the building that day ---

 

You could very well be right --it just doesn't seem right to me is all ----here are a coulpe of examples of toddlers who fell and lived ----I don't believe God influenced the toddlers falling but I believe He knew this was going to happen to the toddlers and provided help by and through His angels  to save the children ---they say the mulch saved one child ---so the mulch got the Glroy not God ----This is where we humans are --no mention of God intervening just mulch in the second video---  

 

 

 

Briton catches toddler who fell from fourth-floor balcony

 

 


 

Toddler Survives 11-Story Fall From Balcony. Minneapolis


 

  

 

 

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In all seriousness, how do some of you expect people to take your faith seriously when you promote this crap? Infant bones are flexible. Sometimes, people survive despite the odds, and regardless of faith or lack of faith. In your religious zeal, you appear to be desperate for evidence of angels, and what some of you have settled for just makes you look ignorant of basic facts, like clouds move.

 

I have no part in this. You're absolutely sabotaging your own faith in this thread. I'd love to help but I can't possibly keep up.

 

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chansen wrote:

h. In your religious zeal, you appear to be desperate for evidence of angels, and what some of you have settled for just makes you look ignorant of basic facts, like clouds move.

 

 

what about thouse who have no religious zeal, like athiests , aka non believes who after certing experances had a perception  shift or what ever you wish to call it and become believers, Michale Coren was one such guy,  I when to hear him speak, he was a non believer 

 

 

 

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Hi Chansen --You  really don't seem to believe in anything do you ? I find that kind of sad. But then thats your life.  It could be one day you'll wake up and find theres no need to walk alone. I understand you don't believe what I'm saying. But at least believe Chansen you are more than you think you are. Remember that chair is being held for you .  I pray some day you'll claim it. Hay  you have a great one . airclean33

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Hi airclean33

 

This is a great video and could show what you are saying ---that sometimes God allows things to happen -------as this woman comes to Christ after this---- so again you could be right ----I feel God is forever tugging on us to come to Him ---most who come to Jesus do it after a crisis in their life ---- God's Love is always around us ----

 

God Bless Brother  

 

50 Foot Angel Lifts Up Car Teetering on Bridge to Save Woman!!!

 

 


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Hi Neo

 

I believe this man who got under the truck has some warning of some kind not to go under the truck ---paying attention to the warning is all up to us -----we have free will to choose to listen to our gut feeling and go with it or to ignore it -----There are many scripture that tell us that many were warned of danger and not to go or do ----Abraham for example was told to leave all his family but disobeyed and took his brother and got into a mess because he didn't listen -----Paul was another who was told of danger didn't listen and ended up in a mess ---Acts 21 ----

 

God does not want His Children to encounter danger ----we are the ones who don't listen to a prompt of danger and get into messes by disobeying -----this is my belief -----and uneasy feeling in your gut is a prompt -----in my opinion -----I  always rely on my gut feeling and it has never failed me yet ----My son relied on his gut feeling when he did his time in Afghanistan and it saved his life ----his tank was hit by a bomber and all survived as my son had a BAD feeling that morning and talked to his officer to rearrange the seating in the tank that day and he was given permission to do so and it saved their lives ----a 3 year old girl was killed in the car the bomber drove into the tank -----it still haunts my son today ----senseless ----

 

Peace

   Hi Unsafe---I believe GOD can see whats comeing . He has already prepared to take care of us.What we find in Lazarus sickness and death is a teaching for those who followed Christ Jesus. For He had the power to even raise the dead. As I see in the trucking   accident  the Dr said he would die. The Dr didn't know GOD was with him. and healed his  stomach  .  Our GOD is and awesome GOD. Airclean33-Gord---God Bless

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Hi Chansen --You  really don't seem to believe in anything do you ? I find that kind of sad. But then thats your life.  It could be one day you'll wake up and find theres no need to walk alone. I understand you don't believe what I'm saying. But at least believe Chansen you are more than you think you are. Remember that chair is being held for you .  I pray some day you'll claim it. Hay  you have a great one . airclean33

Now, is a comment like that going to be ok on WC2, or is it proselytizing?

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I remembered sometime ago  you had said your son had come home from Afghanistan. We are hearing so much on the News about our returning veterans lately. I hope your son isn't one of those who is having difficulty, PSTD etc. that we hear about.

 

God send his angels to watch over him, protect him always, and give him peace.

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 Chansen you are more than you think you are . airclean33

 

Aircleen that is a great point, I wonder if chansen would understand it, i mean if he has faith and beliefe in evolution, how can he trust his own mind if he evloved on the bassis of survival instincts and not Truth instincts.  Even Drawin was intellegent enough to understand that. 

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Hi stardust

 

My son accepted Christ before he went and he is a bomb tech so he was first on the scene --when he came home he did backslide for a time and did have all the symptoms of  this --Satan had him good for a time but his Mother (me ) is very strong in the Lord and did a lot of praying in tongues  and kept scripture strong in my daily life ----Prayer is amazing and it works if you follow the protocol which is laid out for us in God's word ----Satan has no power over us --we have all the power over Satan but most people don't exercise that --my son was a new babe in Christ when he went there and was not strong in God at the time and seeing the horrors he did and killing other people takes it toll on these guys ---most of his friends are so doped up they can't function -----Satan had no choice but to flee from him after a time and he regained his faith in God and is doing great ---got a promotion ---and is teaching other Bomb Techs  ---he  is on no meds now at all ----God is good  -----

 

You see when Jesus died and went to hell ---He took the key back from Satan --He put Satan under His feet and stomped on this head ----Satan has no power over us at all --Jesus has the power at this time and when we have Jesus --the Holy Spirit we have the power -----Most people have no idea about this ----they continue to allow Satan to fling them around like rag dolls ----

 

scriptures like this said daily helps ----when you say it with conviction and you believe that the word works ----it works ----my son is the proof of it for me and others who know him ----Powerful Scripture -----

 

James 4:7-8

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Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

Luke 10:19

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19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

 

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Oh....I'm so happy for your son. God bless him. I'm sure he suffered so much mental anguish in Afghanistan, just the thought of it is enough for most of us. I had an uncle who served in WW2. He  suffered from a lifetime of depression.

 

 

Off topic but here's an upbeat story on today's Citypulse Toronto news:

 

Praise be..!!

 

Cleaning lady cleans up with $50M Lotto Max win

 

 
May 13/14 Toronto
 

The big prize comes 44 years to the day since Sophie Rizavas immigrated to Canada from Greece — and the night after she prayed to Jesus for money, she says.

 

 

She wasn’t sure if it was dogmatically proper, but last Friday night Sophie Rizavas prayed to Jesus for money.

 

The 63-year-old North York grandmother was juggling four jobs as a cleaning lady, while her husband drove airport limos. She wanted them both to retire.

 

“I said, please Jesus, send me some money,” Rizavas recalled. “I don’t need too much.”

 

 

 

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And how many sincere prayers were made to Jesus for money on that exact day? How many millions of prayers do you figure? After all, many people are hurting financially, and we still have some 22 million claimed Christians in Canada alone.

 

So when a Christian who bought a ticket and also prayed for money wins, how likely was that? Is that divine intervention, or is that a likely even given the probability?

 

By your reasoning, if an antheist wins once then there is no God, as God apparently wants Christians to win money.

 

This is the sort of basic stuff that none of you are even considering. All anyone sees here is textbook confirmation bias.

 

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airclean33 wrote:

Hi Chansen --You  really don't seem to believe in anything do you ? I find that kind of sad. But then thats your life.  It could be one day you'll wake up and find theres no need to walk alone. I understand you don't believe what I'm saying. But at least believe Chansen you are more than you think you are. Remember that chair is being held for you .  I pray some day you'll claim it. Hay  you have a great one . airclean33

Now, is a comment like that going to be ok on WC2, or is it proselytizing?

By my understanding, it's perfectly fine. This one isn't even an implied threat. There are no rules against having or expressing comfortable delusions.

 

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Hi stardust

 

I am happy for the lady but I personally don't believe God gives money to people through gambling or by luck ---I believe that the lotto is of this world not from God ---sorry ---

 

We need to rely on God to gives us what we need ---the lady relied on a Lotto not God to provide her wealth -----we need to prove to God that we will use the wealth He gives to expand His kingdom ----Gambling is not in God's Plan for His Children ----this scripture is very clear on that -----

 

Proverbs 13:11

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11 Wealth [not earned but] won in haste or unjustly or from the production of things for vain or detrimental use [such riches] will dwindle away, but he who gathers little by little will increase [his riches].

 

You can read more here ---32 verses on Lottery

http://www.openbible.info/topics/lottery

 

This money could very well distroy this woman -----this is just my thoughts on this --

 

Peace

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Being a cleaning lady for many years is very hard work so I guess I'm just happy for her regardless. She said she wants to use the money to help others.

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Neo wrote:
Dcn Jae wrote:
Since when does a collection of reported stories necessarily make something true?

Just as in the angel story above, the stories themselves doesn't "make" them true, only "interesting".

Yes, I suppose. Then again, many people find fictions such as Harry Potter, and Frozen, to be interesting.

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Quote from the Sun re the lotto win:

 

One thing Rizavas wants to do with her new-found wealth is something she’s been known to do: Help others. It wasn’t unusual for the upbeat and affable Rizavas to assist people needing cash by landing them jobs with the cleaning company she worked for.

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Hi stardust

 

That is great news but I personally don't believe God goes through lotto tickets to make people wealthy ----this lady if she is born again and relies on God for her wealth she won't need to buy a lotto ticket --The Lotto was human born for personal gain in my view  God will provide her with what she needs His way-- and she will have all she needs for herself and enough to Bless others ----The money she won --she did not earn ----she won it ----this is just my own belief as I am living it ---I have no need for a ticket that gives me money ---I rely totally on God and I have enough to have all that I need and enough to help other in need ----everything we do should Glorify God not ourselves or a Lotto Ticket --- I do not know this woman personally --God knows this woman and where her heart is --I believe God's word and follow it and I have never been disappointed --

 

Peace

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Hi stardust  ---you decide ---this is a short video from Charles Satanley

 

Dr. Stanley - Should a CHRISTIAN PLAY the LOTTERY?

 


 

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O.K. unsafe. I don't think I have anything to add.

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Unsafe, what's the Good News for those who play the lottery?

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Unsafe, what's the Good News for those who play the lottery?

 

I just bought 300$ worth of Princess Margret Tickes, I hope i win :)

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Hi Don.Jae   your quote   Unsafe, what's the Good News for those who play the lottery?

 

----I can't help you with that I don't play the Lottery ----sorry

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Hi Don.Jae   your quote   Unsafe, what's the Good News for those who play the lottery?

 

----I can't help you with that I don't play the Lottery ----sorry

 

sure you can hellp

 

whats the good news?

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Hi blackbelt

 

Sorry --can't help you ---don't play the lotto ----what your Good News for thoses who play the Lotto ????

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Hi blackbelt

 

Sorry --can't help you ---don't play the lotto ----what your Good News for thoses who play the Lotto ????

 

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

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      I'll vote yes on that B-B--               yesyesyesyesyesyesyes

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Hi blackbelt

 

Sorry --can't help you ---don't play the lotto ----what your Good News for thoses who play the Lotto ????

 

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

That's great, blackbelt, that's the Good News. Now, how about a personal application of it specifically for lotto players. What great redemption do you imagine God has specifically in mind for them?

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Hi blackbelt

 

Sorry --can't help you ---don't play the lotto ----what your Good News for thoses who play the Lotto ????

 

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

That's great, blackbelt, that's the Good News. Now, how about a personal application of it specifically for lotto players.

 

the only personal application i can place is on myself, other than that, it would not be personal 

 

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What great redemption do you imagine God has specifically in mind for them?

 

 

thats a question for God, But i immagine for all not just gamblers, its wonderfull 

 

unless of course you can elaborate futher

 

 

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