Angels are they for real or just mythical creatures that exist in stories to teach moral lessons?
Are they the cartoon helpful, benevolent creatures that tarot readers make them out to be?
Do they fight God's wars and kill people for God?
Or does God send them to earth for messages? And if that is the case why did God stop talking to humanity after Jesus' birth was told to Joseph?
I really like the tv show "Touched by an Angel" but really what to God's angels actually do or do they even exist?
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John Wilson
Posted on: 05/23/2010 22:01
Angels are they for real or just mythical creatures that exist in stories to teach moral lessons?
Yes.
Are they the cartoon helpful, benevolent creatures that tarot readers make them out to be?
Not all 'readers' do, more's the pity.
Do they fight God's wars and kill people for God?
No. God has evolved and has given up warring.
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Or does God send them to earth for messages?
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No, they are pretty much on their own.
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And if that is the case why did God stop talking to humanity after Jesus' birth was told to Joseph?
You talkin' 'bout God now? Angels are different.
I really like the tv show "Touched by an Angel" but really what to God's angels actually do or do they even exist?
Angels do not have a location but one could correcty say they exist in your head, and come to your rescue... if you listen. Communicating with 'em is ...uh....largely difficult.
Yours is probablty waiting, trying to communicate - which is why you are asking these questions.,
It's where real and imaginary coexist...where existance and perception are co equal,,,AND,,,It's nice to have a Guardian,,,
jon71
Posted on: 05/24/2010 05:01
I do believe they're real but pop culture has added a lot that's not in the Bible. In the Bible angels are a preexisting race of beings. People who die and go to Heaven don't become angels, they become citizens of Heaven. The angels are already there. I think the number one job of angels is to be GOD's messengers but you do have the angel of death mentioned, the Heavenly host, Cherubim and Seraphim and maybe others as well.
Gray Owl
Posted on: 05/24/2010 06:48
Angels are they for real or just mythical creatures that exist in stories to teach moral lessons?
They are real. Protestantism largely expunged the ability to perceive them in reaction to breaking away from the Catholic Church.
Are they the cartoon helpful, benevolent creatures that tarot readers make them out to be?
Well, they aren't cartoon creatures, but very powerful to help us through our Earth journeys, acting out of love, and understanding what we are going through, when we don't.
Do they fight God's wars and kill people for God?
Some do. There is a lot of spiritual warfare going on right now in the Heavens. Do they kill people? When people die was determined before they were born. It's pretty much on autopilot. Death is merely transformation of our consciousness.
Or does God send them to earth for messages? And if that is the case why did God stop talking to humanity after Jesus' birth was told to Joseph?
Everything they do is a message from the Creator. God didn't stop talking to humanity. We just stopped listening, growing increasingly deaf.
I really like the tv show "Touched by an Angel" but really what to God's angels actually do or do they even exist?
Angels can incarnate, become 'solid,' for a very short time, to help but not be noticed. Or they can go through the usual routine like souls, and be born in the womb to live a life, either knowing they are Angels or not. Lots of variations.
Good answers, Happy Genius.
I would like to ask if the answers to these questions are in the United Church, or do you have to go elsewhere?
I know it doesn't promote it, for a lot of theological reasons. It specializes in other kinds of spirituality.
seeler
Posted on: 05/24/2010 06:47
Are angels real. Of course they are. Seelergirl received a card recently that explains it. I believe in angels. They are all around. (There were a couple of lines I couldn't agree with so here is my slightly revised version).
May angels surround you until you're feeling better again.
God's love is all around us
In the form of angels here on earth.
Sometimes they look like doctors or nurses.
Sometimes they look like friends
who will listen and share our burdens.
And sometimes they appear
as family members who love us.
Know that you are surrounded
by light and love
and being watched over
by angels from above --
and all around you.
(not sure how to change that 'watched over . . . from above' without losing the rhyme and rhythm.)
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 05/24/2010 08:17
I do believe they're real but pop culture has added a lot that's not in the Bible. In the Bible angels are a preexisting race of beings. People who die and go to Heaven don't become angels, they become citizens of Heaven. The angels are already there. I think the number one job of angels is to be GOD's messengers but you do have the angel of death mentioned, the Heavenly host, Cherubim and Seraphim and maybe others as well.
Well said, brother. I was thinking of answering something like that but you have done a fine job of putting it down in writing here.
Tyson
Posted on: 05/24/2010 08:45
I do believe they're real but pop culture has added a lot that's not in the Bible. In the Bible angels are a preexisting race of beings. People who die and go to Heaven don't become angels, they become citizens of Heaven. The angels are already there. I think the number one job of angels is to be GOD's messengers but you do have the angel of death mentioned, the Heavenly host, Cherubim and Seraphim and maybe others as well.
Pretty much sums it up for me. Nice job, brother.
MikePaterson
Posted on: 05/24/2010 09:30
A friend of mine in Scotland, a leading Scottish historian, and his partner, researched and wrote a book about fairy belief in Scotland. He later told me that, were historians to be conscientious about understanding Europe before the 18th century, they would pretty much have to re-write all the books to include the influences of the Otherworld and of spirituality, all of which was as much a part of the understood "natural history" as cows and trees and birds and bugs... and had their political and economic ramifications.
It think post-enlightenment rationalism has pretty thoroughly excluded non-material experience from public discourse, excluded it from education and even, very largely, from religion. What's left of religion gets used as a political flag waver to raise armies and as a blind behind which to slip dubious public policies into place (viz. the U.S. religious right).
I have experienced angels as spirits moving inexplicably within people. I think the angelic is a pretty good way to connect experiences of apparent non-rational goodness with each other and with our wider faith-sustaining experiences. The "how" these things occur is a scientific issue, the "why" is the faith issue. We are pretty throroughly propagandised against the "why" questions these days unless they are articulated in relation to externalised things like "The Economy" which may explain why "The Economy" has usurped the place of "God" in public life.
Good? Bad? I dunno. But I'm very glad there are as many angels around as there are. And it is not as though "The Economy" has managed to put together an especially impressive track record so far.
seeler
Posted on: 05/24/2010 15:31
In my opinion angels are manifestations of God's love.
John Wilson
Posted on: 05/25/2010 13:30
I would like to ask if the answers to these questions are in the United Church, or do you have to go elsewhere?
I have no idea.
I attended Emmunal college in Troronto for a short while, merely took a course in Systematic Theology (in the '60s), and came away with a whoosy idea of the Dialectical Theology of Karl Barth, which the professor was labouring through. Barth's "Church Doghmatics" I believe is, 11 volumes...
I too woud be glasd to hear from United Church pastors...Angels, anyone?
John Wilson
Posted on: 05/25/2010 13:37
It think post-enlightenment rationalism has pretty thoroughly excluded non-material experience from public discourse, excluded it from education and even, very largely, from religion. What's left of religion gets used as a political flag waver to raise armies and as a blind behind which to slip dubious public policies into place (viz. the U.S. religious right).
It's pleasent to read your own thoughts expressed better than you can.
Science doesn't even have a thing to say about the non-material existance of consciousness!