We're getting there...
a live demonstration of Microsoft’s neural network-based voice processing software in Tianjin, China. In the demo, Rashid spoke in English and paused after each phrase. To the audience’s delight, Microsoft’s software simultaneously translated what he was saying and then spoke it back to the audience in Chinese.
It will transform the world. No human translaters needed
All languages undersstood by everyone,
A Brave
New
World
(Next best thing to Babel-fish (:
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InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 02/19/2013 04:50
Happy Genius,
was it something akin to this?
the kingdom of heaven is here
John Wilson
Posted on: 02/19/2013 09:02
[quote=InannaWhimsey]
Happy Genius,
was it something akin to this?
Perzatly!
the kingdom of heaven is here
Glad I got my free pass.....
kaythecurler
Posted on: 02/19/2013 10:53
What does this type of technology do when the original speaker uses a lot of very poor word choices laced with grammar errors?
"I was like ripping down the trail on my wheels when like a jumper. a bleeping big buck, was there. I was like what the f....So I went to the left like andand it like looked like scary s&&t. I should of went right instead and hit the ditch"
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/19/2013 13:53
There is always some means to supply the demands of institution: don't ask, don't listen, don't look and don't even think of it!
Mankinds parasite (the unseen, and unmeasured) will figure a way to baffle ... by pure's attire! When that attire is clear, there's nothing to understand ... and the creeping non-intelligence has caught up with us. Wait a minute; what if a person goes the wrong way in this alien beast we call brain ... does the unthinkable become visible? This enigma will be the d'athe of meis ... like a beta muse trap, a dip, b'n or pit they say ... like a whole in normal space.
Will Shatnear, what do you say to that? This this myth called mind is often unexperienced by those that are frightened by alien things!
Keeps the wee people at bay and soon we won't need any of these as mechanical things will make people obsolete. Now where do we start the elimination as discussed in the Irish Solution of feeding the children of Eire to the brighter (British) sorts ... would that much Eire just blow the children of god away?
It's enough to make the purest of emotions stop and meditate on the future ... God don't you love that large gonad ... in which rests a dark myth? Enough to make the dead, psychic ... is that odd or what ...
One old tradition called this the Ka Robed Beatle ... the fabric build about this myth said that this parasite lived on chit and thereafter was known as the dung beadle ... a very fecund imaginary attachment to say least of such crap. Or is it ... could such things that bug you with small chewing feelings extract the meat of experience that we'd rather not know in the field of empathe ... give the sensation of walking in another's Shue ...
Arminius
Posted on: 02/19/2013 14:02
I doubt that the meaning of all possible idioms, turns-of-phrase, metaphors, inflections of voice, facial expressions, bodily gestures, spiritual dynamics and all other nuances that make up human speech can ever be programmed into a computer program.
There is no substitute for a warm-blooded and warm-hearted fluently bicultural and bilingual interpreter to correctly translate human speech.
MikePaterson
Posted on: 02/19/2013 15:09
It may be problematic on some parts of the world:
Sorry about the language…
Pilgrims Progress
Posted on: 02/19/2013 16:34
Thank you, Mike, for my morning giggle......
(My Dad, who was Scottish, would have loved this!)
Mendalla
Posted on: 02/19/2013 19:21
(Next best thing to Babel-fish (:
Not even close to Babel-fish. Not likely that you can stick it in your ear (though, it being an MS product, you may be telling them to stick it somewhere). And certainly isn't a proof of the non-existence of God.
Mendalla
MikePaterson
Posted on: 02/19/2013 19:32
What translation doesn't do is reach across cultural divides with any sensitivity or understanding. The attitudes are in the speaker, not the words. Attitudes are the largest cause of misunderstanding and enmity.
I think there's a potential for a fair bit of harm if we think translation software is THE answer.
not4prophet
Posted on: 02/19/2013 19:45
So science can reverse the confounding of Babel speech and let all mankind now speak in tongues?
Mendalla
Posted on: 02/19/2013 21:33
So science can reverse the confounding of Babel speech and let all mankind now speak in tongues?
It's a process that's been going for a while n4p. Ever checked out Google Translate? All MS has done is make the process fast and powerful to be used for simultaneous speech translation rather than for translating written text.
And, as others suggest, it is still going to miss a lot of nuances and fine points of dialect and such. That is until we hit a "singularity" and actually produce a truly independent, thinking artificial intelligence. However, that will raise much bigger problems than the impact of computer-based translation.
Mendalla
not4prophet
Posted on: 02/19/2013 22:49
But for now, it can misquote to twist posts just as humans do. :)
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 02/20/2013 00:06
did a member of that syncretic pagan religion that sombunall call Christianity mention the Tower of Babel?
well...apparently some have found a stele with words and illustrations of the Tower of Babel :3
another w o w moment!
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 02/20/2013 00:22
and on the Scottish, there is this scene from my favourite Mike Myers autobiographical movie "So I Married an Axe Murderer" where Myers introduces his gf to his Scottish family and they get into fights, yelling at each other, physically beating each other and then they're all love...
i've actually encountered that. at a Scottish friend's home of mine :3
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/20/2013 09:15
Ah ... love is a paen ... but that tue may be a deadly translation of sol' ... a salty singularity as a thought that would come out of the interaction as bos'UNE ... the damned ephraime of thought ... with feminine genre ... the basis of nun or nothing that baffles a man!
My grandfather always said that love was based on nothing we could think of ... leads to loss of soil/so'L a fecund state! Leads to many battles and boils royale over the waters ... or wadis, compared to wadi snt much but a whirling dervish (haggadai) the storm god of babylon that brings rain ... the kohl'n manna of the other side of the emotional sol'...
Well what else did you expect from de'p ITs ... a laid "E" belle up? A fiord ... fey ordinance to be used against war ... mar' in the scene?
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/20/2013 09:20
Is MS translation horizontal or vertical mentality?
Arminius
Posted on: 02/20/2013 12:27
did a member of that syncretic pagan religion that sombunall call Christianity mention the Tower of Babel?
well...apparently some have found a stele with words and illustrations of the Tower of Babel :3
another w o w moment!
You mean Tower of Babble? There is too much of that going on.
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 02/20/2013 22:13
Google Glasses may be coming out later this year
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/21/2013 08:47
There is nothing that assists the unknowing anymore that a sword of stele that penetrates the unconscious, or the imagined opposing state of mind where wisdom resides in a world that worships emotional states where knowing anything is impossible ... in some traditions a religious leaning or tilde of time and Tidy Luce'n ID at the right time to say: "Your honour I wouldn't know that!" In some dimensins this is unacceptable ignorance ...
Like sects ... just blows my mind when you can't gather a clue ... or Q-Lew. When one catches the edge of the unravelling of msytery ... yah just gut Tae Luv IT!
Then ... the inverse of a sword in nothing ... isn't that the ancient symbol of the Ephraim genre ... alien form of woman that's all about you like an archevil myra? That clould be interpreted as my mudda with eyes in the back ov'Ur hed ...
And AESues said respect and hate thy parents, giving good illustration of chaos theory ... giving rise to our present state of thought as the Hebrew called it çitii living ... and the base of the seder or argricultural respect of the land.
It shouldn't be over run by unthinking beasts ... that all believe they're over seers ... while they're not from sublime positions ... if you see the base ... you've seen the soul of mankind! The unthinking form is devoid without the deuce: Intellectual Emotions .... Dan Goleman made a killing on such philosophy that many think of as pure fiction!
Now in the Roman tradition of Milleniua being a fullness is 2 out of 3 without the body not bad or is that close to 666 (paired thought and good senses)? That'd be the devil to a standard bred over seer in dogma ...
Just read some of Finigan's Wake and unravel the rants on the Irish Solution ... a Celtic Satyr? What would it be like to consume a child of sol' or a'Ba? ABBA ... there's a humma' ...
John Wilson
Posted on: 02/22/2013 00:06
Is MS translation horizontal or vertical mentality?
Neither; it's tilted toward $
Human mentality is conquer with brawn.
With a possible exception: China.
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/22/2013 07:31
As I always suspected you trend towards physical treasure ... an alternate reason in life than some of us people from nowhere land ... that drift into the intelligent realm ... where you discover that mortal is mortal like God is not always reasonable!
This is not a firm form as demanded by some literary experts that I know but somewhat amour fuss as the androgynous priciple of fusing ... a thought that was blown by over emotional sorts bent towards possession ... I'm crazy in this stage of the game, but from out-here ... incidentally defining intellect, and a'far data to be collected in another time ...
I do admit from my present position I may be wrong on the physical side but, alternately I seem to have gathered a great deal from what right people say is a myth of mind ... a wealth of just something else again that allows us to create a train of thought that runs on parallel rails to the irrational singularity of physical wealth that is mortal ... and thus a limited case!
This leaves me a left person or just a remnent of thought in the respect of soul that is not a present sense! Don't you L'uv j'aimes in version ... regarding aboriginal intellect as expressed in hebre, a chilling or kohl version of what's now just a frothy thought or hebrewing in real psyches that are out of here?
I will probably end by dayes as a hypo pot-a'mused, or maybe just a hyperbole ... or a line of nihilistic metaphor, that'll be the death of my easy departure as I will not be much attached to physical matter ... leaving me as pure mental stuffing or mind over matter as the saying goes a thought way out there ... that you'll never grasp!
Some distant hope isrequired that you will gather some thoughts that you are afar from right now in a Cush-like dimension! As the PI-Card states in the prodigal and quantum weave ... so beit miçe ... there he was gone again! But did anybody learn anything? Did they wish to? Is this biblical ... about what God said about theaching hios children that wished to know little ... and God thus made litle gold that which appears to be surrounded with silicious iron ... some 8000 miles thick with an estimated 8 miles of god as pieces of hate that someone else woud get to that spot first, at all costs I might add. Some of us get a free ride into the shamayim territory, that is sometime called scintillating to those that have ventured across the line prematurely and sent back as the risen dead or what real peoples call insane zombies ... the walking dead?
They just don't care about this side of the empiric anymore ... an equation for experiential chaos, cat-as-trophe in other letterings ... the transitional soul or having another mind to take a different perspective. There's a thought!
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/22/2013 07:39
From outside fixed form there appears to be two forms of chaos ... the way in and the way out of th media that is a veil where intellect and emotions come together but quite flawed it appears ... few observe the pas in dimension an implicit awareness of something else again ... the wordon syntactical redundance or useless repetition of emotions creates to make gravid dirt?
There's afertile thought on satire or this attire of mine that is robed obtusely! Is that an obscure point marked by chi (x) my native psyche? Such is beginning Hebrew ... where it went ... who Gnoes ? That's alpha bete'n on the omega portion ... working ends? I can see Walter Brenan now ... with his mule ... but behind ID ...
JRT
Posted on: 02/22/2013 08:13
The first instance of "tongues' is in Acts. The odd thing was that it was not 'speaking in tongues', it was 'hearing in tongues'.
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/22/2013 09:13
Some subliminal interpretaion of sayr is required as it happen in the Shadow!
Here in this dimension never tell the complete truth, use a myth baffles the elle's out of those that don't know bottom lines ... that's what we get from role models the other side of myth is a lyre singing a song about what moor heh needs ... this while not knowing a single flow of coine is about to collapse the underlying side of the marketplace ... had'assa ... bottom ends?
Bend over as in bomb drill and obsere the KISS Principle ... a compication of the arms race to grab ... something that's a slick as a mind ... snakey dark humour to say the least ... fools the upper crusty sorts ... like "c"onsters ... light that appears im-mense inspectra ... bloody awesome ... as a fertile ass like my following psyche ... that's latent eh-bi?
John Wilson
Posted on: 02/22/2013 21:55
There is no substitute for a warm-blooded and warm-hearted fluently bicultural and bilingual interpreter to correctly translate human speech.
Yet.
The Kurtswild (sp) Singularity?
Warm hearted?
All tranlaters are biased conspiriters.
OK, many.
Well, some.
A few.
Habla Espanol, amigo?
Vous la parle dan la belle langue du la belle provance du Quebec?
(I can't spell in English, either)
I'm indebted to Germans for the four words I know:
Shadenfreude (I smile that such a concept would be a single word...)
Zeitgeist (Not just 'these times' but something more...)
Geminshaftgeful (I'm not even close here) But 'Social interest' just doesn't do it...
A hundred years ago we were saying we'd never get to the moon.
You just wait for the iPhone23...(Wow! At the rate they are going that might be as long as six months away....)
36 terrabytes...and the entertainment! "The Glass Bead Game" fully installed!
Arminius
Posted on: 02/22/2013 22:44
Yes, HG, it could well be that sometime in the future we'll have a computer that works better than this poorly functiong creative organ which we call our brain.
So far, computers are an extension of our brain, greatly enhancing its creativity. But someday there may be self-creative computers that function independently of the human brain and its limitations, creating ever better computers.
John Wilson
Posted on: 02/22/2013 23:15
WB sez:
mortal is mortal like God is not always reasonable!
When did you learn the criteria for reasonable when analysing God?
And to whom is this addressed?
As I always suspected you trend towards physical treasure ...What does 'Trend toward treasure' mean?And when did this weird 'suspicion' well up in your
think box?
ninjafaery
Posted on: 02/23/2013 01:32
A few of my favourite German words:
Weltschmerz
Seifenblasenspiel
Gemütlichkeit
In addition to the ones listed :)
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/23/2013 08:20
"When did you learn the criteria for reasonable when analysing God?"
One has to stop and disemmanate ... not destructively of course ... which is a trend in thought completely separate from the dimension of a strong man that can't deal with the trends in the wee detailing ... heis just beyond any concept of internal space! Such is the icon of the weaker force as you start out .. there's ath aught to grip as a bubble while in the plunge ...
One really has to have a sense of varience from the statistical norm ... or be right out of this alternate way of thought where everything is fixed by scary, powerful people who have managed to separate many from their treasure of senses ... especially in regard to one unlying sense that undertakers try and make look good ... what' left of you when the duality has left. Such be the dark side of emotional organistic incarnation of that peculiar gonad ... since you asked about "geminshaftgeful" ... you're missing something about the whole thing if you have no social interest in the stupidity impressed on the collective by exegetes!
I really do hope you don't know what I'm talking about or you could Luçe-ite ... any alloying force you got and you are conpletely free of any social grace ever conceived of ... in a world prone to hate alien conceptions ... especially of sol' ...
There that completes my undertaking, or expression of conscience on knowing nothing as socially inept trend do indicate ... perhaps I am outside the present line of thinking of doing it like the Romans did. There has to be an alternative ... just fro contrast to allow for hope ... in how things might be in the abstract. Does hebrewing thoughts conflict with Latin thoughts or the lack thereof if you don't wish social understanding of grouped wisdoms? One you lose the social end the marketplace deteriorates and those focussed on monii are soon double helix (that's like screwed jack)! Even the banks forclose along with pensions and all that ... leaving only one escape ... now tell me by shadowy thinking is Sue-A'çi-Dhale ... iof this is the only way out of the pain of no monii! There just has to be moor tuit ...according to alternate reason or outside complexities that we don't yet comprehend while clapping one-handed like j'aimes who wished to leave jahn right out of the wholly equitiability ... a common error down here it seems ... but then arn't Jon's commonly screwed in Roman fantasies ...
Alas powerful men don't like abstracts as they absolutely know all they need while poor me I lack in that treasure ... knowing nothing ... but isn't God nothing? Good place to get started in the initial process of escape from ignorance ... and so it goes ... soon isle me gone as a small isolate bit in the pool of observation once know and science that was to be conned of directed with great care ... no one cares anymore as long as they receive big $ as all they can see in two eyes ... blind ambi-shin's! Always an alternative view and some of us would like to escape, yet some learning process appears to be left although I've forgottten more than I've learned ... HG ... can you explain that in your treasure chest?
Perhaps my conscience has a grip on this thought ... is that sublime of subliminal learning?
You know I was told in church there was no such thing as conscience ... but then perhaps none of those churchy people ever experienced conscience ... the dictionary explains this is a'lein words so people that don't want ... won't have to encounter such subversive thoughts that are social in a small particle of space that is internalized like string theory ... but like Chimamanda Adichie stated ... never never go thro life with a single thread of story ... you miss so much of the other chords ... and you have to be ambi dextrous to grip such things!
Dextrous, isn't that suite as a set of sugar used to fire the brain so it can be examined in another light? Sometimes known as an alternate to glu-Cos in alchii ... or however it relates in the lake of depth of thinking; conned-science!
Is this true? perhaps not as the rule goes when in Rome do as they do ... cover the tracks ... like images of soles in tha san ... that's without a clue ... buried in miss understanding or the abuse ephraim of that shadowy harf ... sometime called dark humours. You know how the barbarous surgeon cleared people of that? Thats "nigrification" or in short the dark attempt to bleed your neigbour of all he has instead of non-destructive sharon in free and fair trade ... thus the PSalms wouldn't have to be OI-led with so many nuites ... as they lay there under the tree in metaphor ...
HG do you have a story of your own or like Jae just go by the Roman book ... down here on earth it seems little really changes as time has its creeping effect maybemachines will learn to process men that tend towards emotional end ... dunder-ology? A sic expression on d'ontological ends in ignorance of the continuum ... from which you can't escape ... only convert in the manna of which you chose ...
Will heavy emotions be the th'unque'n of many men without Levatine characteristics ... getting time to take off ... like the Hebrews in the black's mything og Egypt ... moor tuit than a mortal can hope for ... some tranmutation required as prerequisite ... close to prescience ... precognizance ... creation allowed some without just for icons ... can they convert? Only by a alien absorption of the surroundings like a tree soaking up the carpenter ... a depth of anachronism that's beyond reason; very Complex or irrational if you've ever seen God storming it''s wild out there ... symbol-ihc? ID can't be looked at directly ... or it'll reflect as seen in the neigh eye ... if you dare look there!
I've been told not to by some authorities ... peking ease is disallowed as Roman dogma as something up the sleeve ... such is the hilarity of knowing this elf of mind ... a minor thing in Solemon's domain ... if you can see the alternate ego ...
So much to gather of insubstantial evidence ...
John Wilson
Posted on: 02/24/2013 01:13
Ah...as I suspicioned, you don't actually read my posts...
since you asked about "geminshaftgeful" ... you're missing something about the whole thing if you have no social interest i
I didn't 'ask about'
I said 'social interest' was a weak and poor tranlation...of a favorite word...
You are as bad interpreting as you are explaining....
after 45,687 posts I still have no idea what you think, believe, opine or care about...
Just word, words, words, horatio...
.
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/24/2013 09:07
That's gutte ...
That you don't understand a phoqah' dupe social order (intercourse of things?) allows things to continue as they are in the ad sorption of intelligence ... for the god's didn't wish us to know ... leading to collapse of unknown things ... gets very complex for people that tend towards simony!
One has to be a bit outa 'ere to get that but HO'd accept anything beyond reality ... an imaginary character that just isn't? Everything appears to have flaws ...
Why state's ide children were taught to bend over under their desks for bomb drill ... it sbiblical ... never really look at what follows until yer goan ... basis of NDE! Just kills me ... but don't tell ... everybody doesn't wish to know! Jes todd thinkers of peculiar things ... like samites for instance, connective lines of irony woven with threads of gold and silver ... chimerii eve'ns (didn't Normal Mailer write on that and nihlism) spatial aspects that are out of hair ... bald humours? Stoics don't get thoughts that are odd ... the "dummie" book on how to occlude thoughts ...
Descartes constructed this so spatial thoughts would have a volume all their own ... thats the Ðoøm, now known as the book of the beyond as expressed by the last verses of the Gospel of John ... something that people find hard to get ... a grip on ... intangeables or untouchables ... like outside thoughts ... abstract? Only interpreted once right into IT, or intuit! Enough to scramble a "set" brain ... they are now discovering it's plastic ... like Crazy Putty! Creationary powers found it had to be left alone long enough to destroy itself to become intelligence, pure thought ... but this too might be abstract if there are imperfections in the system like lines in the complex curves ...Ø ... that' phi-in Greek only "nothing" in Latin ... but don't look.isten or tell ... above all don't think out of the box ...
Arminius
Posted on: 02/24/2013 13:31
Ah...as I suspicioned, you don't actually read my posts...
since you asked about "geminshaftgeful" ... you're missing something about the whole thing if you have no social interest i
I didn't 'ask about'
I said 'social interest' was a weak and poor tranlation...of a favorite word...
You are as bad interpreting as you are explaining....
after 45,687 posts I still have no idea what you think, believe, opine or care about...
Just word, words, words, horatio...
Now you hear it from the horse's mouth (of a German horse :-)
"Gefühl" means "feeling," and "Gemeinschaft" means "community." And the compound noun "Gemeinschaftsgefühl" is "the feeling of being united in community."
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 02/24/2013 15:31
The hoerst of gre'manna ... the "y" being abstracted for anonymous reason ... things I jest don't know? Perhaps my thoughts are antisocial?
Sometimes I get the feeling I'm in the wrong social group ... stuck onthe emotional side opposite my proper form which is hommoe in Greek Mysteries!
Is that gutte form or what Wiles At Near ... something like virtual that is close approximation ... makes the fixed almost isle with de stress ...