InannaWhimsey
Et Tu, Christos? Part the Second
Posted on: 02/13/2009 18:03
Gentlebeings, this is Part Deux of
http://wondercafe.ca/discussion/religion-and-faith/et-tu-christos
Taking what you came up with...
Ready to riff? GO:
What things that exist/have action on the world must be believed in to 'exist/have action on the world'?
In other words, can you think of anything that needs us to believe in it for it to exist/have action on the world?
(To help you get started, here are a few to get you started: the number Pi; tree bark; colour; photons; Sherlock Holmes; Tori Amos; mercy; Canada; the NDP; the economy)
Around next Friday, I'll write Part the Third,
Inannawhimsey
Comments
Arminius
Posted on: 02/13/2009 20:48
Zero or Infinity.
killer_rabbit79
Posted on: 02/13/2009 20:01
So in other words, you're asking what things we need to believe exist in order for them to exist at all?
If this is what you are asking, I would have to say that everything that exists in reality will be existing whether we know/care/experience/understand/comprehend it exists or not. I think existence is independant of our own beliefs.
Arminius
Posted on: 02/13/2009 20:44
Hi Inanna:
Any belief is necessarily self-limiting.
"Seeing is believing" goes the old proverb, but I think it is rather the other way around: Believing is seeing. We don't see what there is; we see what we think there is. If we confine our perception to pre-conceived beliefs, then we don't see what there is, we see what we believe there is.
As soon as we believe in something, we make it real, and exclude what lies outside that belief as unreal, which could well be 99.99% or more of reality.
I don't believe in anything, not even in disbelief.
"If the doors to perception were opened, then we would perceive everything as is: Infinite."
-Aldous Huxley