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God - DID You Ever Think....?

This universe that we live in; our lives; our dreams and aspirations are not  the end of the plan that  God has for us? Could this only be the beginning and there are so many other things that are left for us to live ( in this way or another way) after we die on this earth and this universe.?

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I don't think there is a predesigned plan, but the possibilities are endless.

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Don't let G_d limit you.

 

The sky literally is the Limit.

 

Just listen to the words of Lord Tennyson and Emily Dickinson:

 

The long day wanes: the slow moon climbs: the deep
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends,
'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Push off, and sitting well in order smite
The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths
Of all the western stars, until I die.

If my Bark sink
'Tis to another sea --
Mortality's Ground Floor
Is Immortality --

 

Worlds within worlds within worlds without end.  Meaning and purpose and plenty of friends.

 

Just a Self-writing poem,

Inannawhimsey

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I guess it's possible, but not very likely IMO.  I believe that life after death is exactly like life before conception - non existant.  The life we have now is all we have and all that will ever be in the form of what we are.  Even if reincarnation does exist, which is also in my opinion not very likely, then it has nothing to do with the soul but only parts and pieces of different physical things. 

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I believe, like others, there are endless possibilities.

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crazyheart wrote:

This universe that we live in; our lives; our dreams and aspirations are not  the end of the plan that  God has for us? Could this only be the beginning and there are so many other things that are left for us to live ( in this way or another way) after we die on this earth and this universe.?

 

We are all invited to experience Heaven.

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Ahhhhh,but what and where is Heaven?

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crazyheart wrote:

Ahhhhh,but what and where is Heaven?

 

Right here, right now! (but only if we so choose :-)

 

Welcome to heaven, crazyheart and Aquila.

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i am sure Aquila has another place in mind where the streets are paved with gold and he will have wings.

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crazyheart wrote:

i am sure Aquila has another place in mind where the streets are paved with gold and he will have wings.

 

This heaven must be a hellishly boring place! Can you imagine, the same old homilies repeated over and over again, ad nauseum, for all of eternity?!

 

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crazyheart wrote:

Ahhhhh,but what and where is Heaven?

 

Heaven is that place where the Christ-followers shall dwell in eternal never-ending blessedness. We will be forever free from sin, death, and evil. We will be unendingly with God and will be no longer able to fall away from Him. We will eternally commune with our fellow Christ-followers. There will be wonderful joyous happiness.

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Aquila wrote:

crazyheart wrote:

Ahhhhh,but what and where is Heaven?

 

Heaven is that place where the Christ-followers shall dwell in eternal never-ending blessedness. We will be forever free from sin, death, and evil. We will be unendingly with God and will be no longer able to fall away from Him. We will eternally commune with our fellow Christ-followers. There will be wonderful joyous happiness.

 

That sounds absolutely hideous.  Consider the following in a travel brochure:  "We will eternally commune with our fellow Christ-followers. There will be wonderful joyous happiness."

 

You paint a picture of a sea of mindless, clap-happy nutcases wearing too much white and milling about a God who is probably wondering what He got Himself into.

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chansen wrote:
You paint a picture of a sea of mindless, clap-happy nutcases wearing too much white and milling about a God who is probably wondering what He got Himself into.

 

Well, chansen, you don't have to go there if you don't want to. No one is going to coerce you into being there. You can keep resisting the God-Spirit your whole life long if you want to.

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There isn't much to "resist".  You have a vision of an afterlife that coincidentaly includes only those people who believe as you do, all on a religious ecstacy trip full of love and devoid of anything bad - their gift for believing in and worshipping a very particular version of a remarkably unprobable God.

 

First, this doesn't sound appealing to me.  It sounds Stepford-Wives-scary.

 

Second, it's rather liberating to know that there isn't any reason to believe in your version of heaven, hell, or God.  They're all based on your interpretation of a very old and badly translated and rehashed piece of literature.  Your predictions are about as convincing as any astrologer or palm reader, without the entertainment qualities.

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No plan but a dream or an aim toward peace, justice,and compassion which gets actualized in each moment - God offers novel possibilities in each moment and they are endless, but can be and are actualized by us, to begin with a new novel possibility.

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chansen wrote:
There isn't much to "resist".  You have a vision of an afterlife that coincidentaly includes only those people who believe as you do, all on a religious ecstacy trip full of love and devoid of anything bad - their gift for believing in and worshipping a very particular version of a remarkably unprobable God.

 

Faith and salvation are gifts from God. They are not rewards for worshipping Him.

 

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First, this doesn't sound appealing to me.  It sounds Stepford-Wives-scary.

 

To each his own.

 

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Second, it's rather liberating to know that there isn't any reason to believe in your version of heaven, hell, or God.  They're all based on your interpretation of a very old and badly translated and rehashed piece of literature.  Your predictions are about as convincing as any astrologer or palm reader, without the entertainment qualities.

 

Blah blah blah.

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Aquila wrote:
chansen wrote:
There isn't much to "resist".  You have a vision of an afterlife that coincidentaly includes only those people who believe as you do, all on a religious ecstacy trip full of love and devoid of anything bad - their gift for believing in and worshipping a very particular version of a remarkably unprobable God.

 

Faith and salvation are gifts from God. They are not rewards for worshipping Him.

 

Do I still receive these "gifts", given that (a) I don't consider them "gifts", (b) I don't believe in any version of God, and (c) I openly dislike your particular version?

 

 

Aquila wrote:
chansen wrote:
First, this doesn't sound appealing to me.  It sounds Stepford-Wives-scary.

 

To each his own.

 

 

Aquila wrote:
chansen wrote:
Second, it's rather liberating to know that there isn't any reason to believe in your version of heaven, hell, or God.  They're all based on your interpretation of a very old and badly translated and rehashed piece of literature.  Your predictions are about as convincing as any astrologer or palm reader, without the entertainment qualities.

 

Blah blah blah.

 

"Blah blah blah"?  Really?

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chansen wrote:
Do I still receive these "gifts", given that (a) I don't consider them "gifts", (b) I don't believe in any version of God, and (c) I openly dislike your particular version?

 

Salvation through Christ and the faith by which we receive this salvation are in their entirety  a God-grace-gift with no cooperation on our part. Faith is a purely passive act: God alone can give us the power to believe. We can, of course, choose to reject the God-grace, as I believe you have done.

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Aquila wrote:

chansen wrote:
Do I still receive these "gifts", given that (a) I don't consider them "gifts", (b) I don't believe in any version of God, and (c) I openly dislike your particular version?

 

Salvation through Christ and the faith by which we receive this salvation are in their entirety  a God-grace-gift with no cooperation on our part. Faith is a purely passive act: God alone can give us the power to believe. We can, of course, choose to reject the God-grace, as I believe you have done.

 

Given that I believe your version of "God-grace" is both ridiculous and repugnant, you could say that.

 

So, salvation comes with or without our cooperation, and faith is passive.  If God can give us "the power to believe", then why would he make me a non-believer?  Working with this hypothetical...if there is a God, and He made me an unbeliever, perhaps He sent me here to show WC how ludicrous your concept of God is?

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