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God's Garden

Poetry that really says it all : beautiful, inclusive and profound:

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GOD IS ONE, BUT HIS NAMES ARE MANY.
REALITY IS ONE, BUT ITS WAYS ARE MANY.
SPIRITUALITY IS ONE, BUT RELIGIONS ARE MANY.
HUMANITY IS ONE, BUT HUMAN BEINGS ARE MANY.
 
THERE CANNOT BEONE RELIGION FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.
RELIGIONS ARE LIKE FLOWERS OF A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN.
EVERY FLOWER HAS GOT ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL BEAUTY.
ADDING TO THE TOTAL BEAUTY OF THE GARDEN.
 
ENJOY THE BEAUTY OF THE FLOWER OFYOUR CHOICE,
WHILE ENJOYING THE BEAUTY OF THE GARDEN!
LET NOT YOUR CHOICE BE THRUST ON OTHERS
NOR BE IT A CAUSE FOR COERCION OR CONFLICT.
 
 
By his Holiness Shri Swami Divananda Saraswati Maharaj
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That's a beautiful poem, in it's civility,

It's grace, charm, and it's humility.

Too bad it lacks compatibility,

With gods who claim exclusivity.

 

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My religion teaches me that it is the one true religion. Part of my religion is thus rejecting other religions. At least some, if not all, of the major religions of the world teach the same things about themselves. How, then, can we who are religious accept that one and all religions are equal, valid, and one.

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Dcn.Jae, you need another constitution get a move on ...

That is just a religious, institutionalized fixation ... no alien mote 'vation!

 

When Nus terred; you'll get beyond it, like move on ... everything pas's ... or didn't you pick up on that? The details are devilsh to deal with ... no!

 

Like in the next life you could be just a dark flower ... like Adam's Lilleth a flowering Shadow? Such things explode like the Cos MOes ... a mortal can't even begin to imagiane as they don't really like to know and thus de athe is beyond us ... like tailing history that's readily been burnt so authorities don't have to admit to hude errors in judgement. Consider the judments of the caesars .. were they fair and balanced considering the judges were powerful sociopathes and psychological maniacs?

 

This is the Romantic role model of Legend and legion ... allah-gory from being chained down? Close to a spook in a dungeon ... St. Eve'n ... a very obscure character ... like Ben Hur's mother and sister in that 6th cell ... an entirely isolated circle like the aura of psyche ... ripples in space? What a myth ... when you find beyond that çephan, cephus  ...

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Dcn. Jae wrote:

My religion teaches me that it is the one true religion. Part of my religion is thus rejecting other religions. At least some, if not all, of the major religions of the world teach the same things about themselves. How, then, can we who are religious accept that one and all religions are equal, valid, and one.

 

4/10

 

Your point is ripped from mine,

And I'm afraid it does not rhyme.

 

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One way to handle that negativity from your denomination Jae is to accept that all religions have some helpful parts just as the all have some divisive parts.  Poetry is more useful it seems to me) to express the underlying spirit than a list of behavior rules and punishments.

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Good morning John Wilson--- Ever good gardner understands for a Garden to live an grow . Many weeds He must throw. His hands may hurt from useing his backbreaking hoe. But Bless the man that knows the way a perfect Garden dose grows. With hard work and LOVE and prays that he sows. --I hope your day goes well John.--airclean33

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airclean33 wrote:

Good morning John Wilson--- Ever good gardner understands for a Garden to live an grow . Many weeds He must throw. His hands may hurt from useing his backbreaking hoe. But Bless the man that knows the way a perfect Garden dose grows. With hard work and LOVE and prays that he sows. --I hope your day goes well John.--airclean33

 

I think you'll find that, indeed,

Every god is a weed.

 

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Hi Jae

you wrote:
How, then, can we who are religious accept that one and all religions are equal, valid, and one.

It begins by letting go of any claim to priority or privilege. As it is written: "Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it."

 

The three Abrahamic faiths are inverted by the determination of each to position itself as superior to the others. By this determination much iniquity is set loose in the name of religion, earning religion a bad reputation. The greater shame goes to the Christian religion, which is expressly mandated to forsake dominance and embrace service to any and all met along the way; irrespective of difference and without any compulsion to proselytise.

 

George

 

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chansen wrote:

airclean33 wrote:

Good morning John Wilson--- Ever good gardner understands for a Garden to live an grow . Many weeds He must throw. His hands may hurt from useing his backbreaking hoe. But Bless the man that knows the way a perfect Garden dose grows. With hard work and LOVE and prays that he sows. --I hope your day goes well John.--airclean33

 

I think you'll find that, indeed,

Every god is a weed.

 

This is very true Chansen. For in my house you see the garden is out of boundes to me. Because you see, if  a flower I do not see. Then a weed it must becheeky

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Do you know how very, very useful weeds can be? Some repel pests, some can be eaten, some provide a home for friendly and helpful insects, some shelter plants, some protect crops, some are used for medicine.

 

Weeds are our friends. Another gift from God that we often fail to appreciate.

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We are divine children living a dvine life in a divine world.

 

-Rumi

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Rev. Steven Davis wrote:

Do you know how very, very useful weeds can be? Some repel pests, some can be eaten, some provide a home for friendly and helpful insects, some shelter plants, some protect crops, some are used for medicine.

 

Weeds are our friends. Another gift from God that we often fail to appreciate.

They're also natural erosion control. In the wild, they are very useful.

 

Plus, there are at least as many different varieties of weeds as there are different gods. Of course, in any one area, it's mostly the same two or three weeds that pop up and choke off the plants you're actually trying to grow.

 

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But we make the distinction of "flower" vs. "weed" on a largely arbitrary basis, usually revolving around that which we find attractive, much as many choose to make their personal concept of God the "flower" and reduce all other concepts of God to the status of "weed" rather than simply seeing them all as "plants."

 

And while there are many different varieties of both weeds and flowers, if one chooses to move into Plato, there is surely the ideal form of "weed" or "flower" against which all other forms are but pale images - recognizable perhaps, but not perfect. Plato would probably say the same about religion. There is a pure and ideal religion, with the various "religions" we've developed being but pale images. The closest I can imagine to the perfect and ideal religion would, in fact, be to love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and to love your neighbour as yourself, which could also be understood as saying that one loves God most deeply when one loves others most fully.

 

 

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Rev. Steven Davis wrote:

Do you know how very, very useful weeds can be? Some repel pests, some can be eaten, some provide a home for friendly and helpful insects, some shelter plants, some protect crops, some are used for medicine.

 

Weeds are our friends. Another gift from God that we often fail to appreciate.

Hi Rev Steven Davis -- My Mother had been a farmer when younger. I understand that some plans do keep some bugs away. I have never heard a farmer or gardener however  say . It"s a good Idea to plant  weeds with your crop . Some flowers I understand also work.  Now snake poison will help if one has been biten by a snake. I don't think the meaning though is to go back and get bit again. If weeds are in your crop they also eat the things your crop need. They drink the water your plant needs. The big ones take  the sunshine the light your crop must have to live . In other words they take the food of the babys.--God Bless--airclean33

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All things in moderation!

 

If you keep planting the same crop in the same place over and over again you also hurt the yield.

 

The point is that weeds are inherently neither good nor bad - they're simply weeds, a type of plant. 

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A weed is merely a flower growing where a human doesn't want it.

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kaythecurler ..... well said ......

It is no fun being designated as the weed....

Regards

Rita

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Like a rose growing in a cornfield.

 

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RitaTG - you are definitely not a weed in my eyes.  You have the determination to thrive that is modelled by weeds though smiley.  It really hurts to be called names, insulted and denigrated but your strength is still holding your wonderful flowerhead high. 

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HUG kaythecurler....

On behalf of those like me ..... and me as well.... thank you for seeing the flower....

Rita

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Omega'd what is so easily miss'd and dropped ... like what did early culturists use to evolve useful plants?

 

Then there is the parable about the tares ... anyone know what tare was in Classic Wisdom? such are dark words that the Romans wished to control as they didn't like this vast see of incarnate thought in a world where they liked to specialize "simple" ... perhaps alien words tar*erye*ized Romans in the night? A dark nurse with en emma ... and night in Gael was discoverd along with the fluff of a thistle ... like Sisyphus one must get over the pain to get to the Joey ...

 

It is said: "care for the stranger" ... and what is more alien than a devilsh word to a Latin monolithic? Then there's the other side of the story; if we can keep the commonfolk (pae*gaen; pic*anne) dumb in Latin is there a sacred code?

 

How easily mortal intelligence can screw up greater cognizance that slipped below the horizon to become a subtle power of unconscious awareness! he was of course and bent out of shape in far side giggles ... isn't that the devil in series of temples .?

 

And few mortals would go that deep into cunning linguistics ... ooops did I saethað?

 

What a strange boy I'am and no one likes me for my odd po'ET'ix ...then I've been a aemon in church for those alien words longer than the authorities there can recall ... that which they didn't know!

 

It is fun to know things other don't ... sort of like occipital or occult science ... a dark vision? "Do you see what I see ..." and the carol goes on ...

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Dcn. Jae wrote:

My religion teaches me that it is the one true religion. Part of my religion is thus rejecting other religions. At least some, if not all, of the major religions of the world teach the same things about themselves. How, then, can we who are religious accept that one and all religions are equal, valid, and one.

Wait a second Jae. I thought you had a relationship and didn't belong to any religion. What has changed in the last few weeks Jae? So what is up with the true religion thing? I guess it is a matter of which way the wind is blowing at the time.

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Gets me to wondering Dreamerman;

 

Are isolated religions sort of like separate sects? No disturbance or banter until you put them together! Bound to be some de beit'n as the worm is disposed of ... and the eternal fisherman is pleased they took the metaphorical hook displayed in Aramaic as ل

 

The same as Greek Lamda, and Hebrew "la meth" an esscence-like thing falling from heaven as the , or beam in Complex Egyptian legend taken as myth ... as people usually live in the dark ... of cosmological shuttle'n ...

 

Why would then a dumb non culturists wish a monoculture where so much BS is in one shack? Tht'a be a fugal explosion ... or just Phu Gue ... a tacky situation like an ass against a tree in the colon I'aL moving ... as the wee chit 've literay fecundity ... that might be fertile soil or sol' ...

 

The unseen light? Look up over the north pole on  a clear winter's nigh and see what's passing without a bump ... gravid attraction of heavy order cause bumps and a lot of bullying ... things we don't like to hear, see, or dispute about and thus ignorant of ... a god-like oppression! Why? We simply don't wish to ...

 

Some will say they knew this and yet ... didn't do a thing about it because it could off end the off ender ...

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Rev. Steven Davis

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dreamerman wrote:

Dcn. Jae wrote:

My religion teaches me that it is the one true religion. Part of my religion is thus rejecting other religions. At least some, if not all, of the major religions of the world teach the same things about themselves. How, then, can we who are religious accept that one and all religions are equal, valid, and one.

Wait a second Jae. I thought you had a relationship and didn't belong to any religion. What has changed in the last few weeks Jae? So what is up with the true religion thing? I guess it is a matter of which way the wind is blowing at the time.

Context dreamerman, everything is context...

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Right. In the context of whether you have a religion or not, you don't have a religion, you have a relationship. In the context of who's religion is correct, it's your religion.

 

No inconsistencies here, nosiree. It's that pesky context.

 

Once again, of course, you use weasel words like, "My religion teaches me..." and not, "I believe that my religion..."

 

You do love floating this stuff to see how people react, don't you?

 

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Everything is beautiful, in its own way.

 

Everything is ugly, in its own way.

 

In faith and life, the challenge we see,

Is to uphold the truly beautiful, and remove the truly ugly.

 

Mendalla

 

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Is not a field of bright yellow dandelion flowers beautiful?  (some would say yes, as long as they aren't on their lawn :).

 

Is not a meadow of vibrant pink fireweed beautiful?  (again, some would say yes, as long as it isn't in their crop :).

 

I love wildflowers (which most would consider weeds).  Although I'm not a botanist, nor a herbalist, nor a natural healer, and don't use them as "medicine", I am aware that they have been used by many cultures for thousands of years.

 

Everything in this world has a purpose - just sometimes it's purpose, presence, and appearance doesn't line up with what we are looking for in our own "worlds".

 

 

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