It sounded to me like it related specifically to discussing matters of the spirit, when I heard it used. But I might be totally wrong about its meaning.
crazyheart
Posted on: 09/11/2009 14:32
Any other thoughts?
spiritbear
Posted on: 09/11/2009 14:45
Although I understand the intention of the phrase involves respect and understanding when dealing with others, it has been used in a meeting at which I attended to mean "shut up and don't rock the boat". Ever since I have been distrustful of the phrase. But this event illustrates that many regard simple disagreement and having a different vision as disrespectful. That's tragic, because it means that we fail to be open to the Spirit. Truly "holy manners" involves openness to others.
And here I thought it was an exclamation by the Boy Wonder to Batman when he saw the newest villain in Gotham City - a prim and proper woman who tortured her victims by reading to them from the Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behavior
Huh. Who knew?
Tiger Lily
Posted on: 09/11/2009 16:14
lol GoldenRule
TL
Birthstone
Posted on: 09/11/2009 16:19
Spiritbear - I hear ya. As with many things, tidy little phrases can be brutal weapons. "Patience is a virtue." now there is a good one.
But the skill would be in turning the tables, and reminding each other that Holy Manners means looking for God in the situation, and respecting one another with appropriate care & love. That your strong feelings are as much a part of what God is doing as anyone else's.
I think the word "Manners" throws us, because it sounds like a tidy little phrase with please and thankyou and pretty little tea sandwiches. "Holy Rules of Engagement" is a bit cumbersome. "Holy Don't throttle each other" is a bit informal. "Holy Grow Up and Act like an Adult" might be condesending.
Has anyone else been at church meetings like I've seen??
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paradox3
Posted on: 09/11/2009 13:35
Hi Crazyheart,
It sounded to me like it related specifically to discussing matters of the spirit, when I heard it used. But I might be totally wrong about its meaning.
crazyheart
Posted on: 09/11/2009 14:32
Any other thoughts?
spiritbear
Posted on: 09/11/2009 14:45
Although I understand the intention of the phrase involves respect and understanding when dealing with others, it has been used in a meeting at which I attended to mean "shut up and don't rock the boat". Ever since I have been distrustful of the phrase. But this event illustrates that many regard simple disagreement and having a different vision as disrespectful. That's tragic, because it means that we fail to be open to the Spirit. Truly "holy manners" involves openness to others.
RichardBott
Posted on: 09/11/2009 14:54
You might want to check: http://www.united-church.ca/history/gc38/news/1109
Christ's peace - r
GRR
Posted on: 09/11/2009 15:57
You might want to check: http://www.united-church.ca/history/gc38/news/1109
Christ's peace - r
And here I thought it was an exclamation by the Boy Wonder to Batman when he saw the newest villain in Gotham City - a prim and proper woman who tortured her victims by reading to them from the Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behavior
Huh. Who knew?
Tiger Lily
Posted on: 09/11/2009 16:14
lol GoldenRule
TL
Birthstone
Posted on: 09/11/2009 16:19
Spiritbear - I hear ya. As with many things, tidy little phrases can be brutal weapons. "Patience is a virtue." now there is a good one.
But the skill would be in turning the tables, and reminding each other that Holy Manners means looking for God in the situation, and respecting one another with appropriate care & love. That your strong feelings are as much a part of what God is doing as anyone else's.
I think the word "Manners" throws us, because it sounds like a tidy little phrase with please and thankyou and pretty little tea sandwiches. "Holy Rules of Engagement" is a bit cumbersome. "Holy Don't throttle each other" is a bit informal. "Holy Grow Up and Act like an Adult" might be condesending.
Has anyone else been at church meetings like I've seen??