What is the power of God. The Creative Power?

 

I keep the Creative Power on all the time (apart from the occasional temporary power outage :-)

 

 

Hin Arminius 

 

LOL ----Got to watch those power outages though ---they can be dangerous as in order to get light you need a candle or oil lamp  which if not properly attended can be deadly ----

 

Peace

With Olive Oil you get one smoke'n lass ... a bit sooty ...

 

Great Article by Charles Stanley ---For those intrested ----

 

 http://www.intouch.org/magazine/content/topic/lord_why_can_t_i_change#

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Lord, Why Can’t I Change?

By Charles F. Stanley

 

 

Maybe its beyond you ... that power? It's so easy for human to Eire this way ... a singular path instead of divine ... alien de deuce in ... illegal without church litagation! Almost monolithic in some stoics ... but no thing is perfect ... why we have spatial thoughts ... out'ere ... implicitly explicit or other ... wise excluded from church wisdom ... that's nothing really! Pop's up as a divine "I" that's really sacredly "Y's" with abstracts and imagination ... virtually so ...

 

This is keeping the power on ----and keeping the power going ----Do you believe ???

 

A True Story of Death & Life. 90 Minutes in Heaven

 

Does the real god speak of something humbler?

No I don't believe so waterBuoy. You are GODS Son coming home. There is more much more . Thank you Unsafe for this Thread an vid Sister. 90 mins in Heaven.Please note for him time had seem to stop. When he returned he then knew it had not.  God Bless.. airclean33- Gord.

Anybody catch this guy's name? That's probably all you'll need to debunk it, as with 60,000 view someone has debunked it online before. Same with Berserk's lies. Google is not their friend.

 

I don't care to watch enough of it to get the name of the guy who "died".

 

 

Just because we have the Holy Spirit indwelling in us does not mean that we are lead by the Holy Spirit -----We are in fact a Carnal Christian ---we have the Holy Spirit and our Spirit is no longer  in the Flesh but we are still led by our worldly Fleshly thinking ------we are a child in Christ ---our Spirit is holy --our mind is still in our sinful state ----the body will move to our thoughts that we put into action -----

 

Paul says it best -----Paul had the Holy Spirit but his mind was still in the old way of thinking and Paul struggles with his  thoughts and actions ----

 

I think his name was Don Piper or was it Jesus Christ.

 

 

Jesus came to free us from the power of Sin ---why is it that we want to remain in bondage to the very thing that we can be free from ------God brought in the law to show us that we could not keep it and to show that the law brings sin -----

 

 

Just forget it UNSAFE then you won't know what happened or the cause or effect ... numbiness states of mind are best!

 

WaterBuoy   your quote  ---Just forget it UNSAFE then you won't know what happened or the cause or effect ... numbiness states of mind are best!

 

You can forget it if you want to that is your choice ----I personally want to go as far as I Spiritually can in this life -----It has be a great ride so far and the more I advance the greater it will be ----Numbness in your mind is exactly what Satan wants ---God wants clearness ---wholeness ---brightness ---our choice ---you can turn off the power button to Grace  if you want to I prefer to turn on the power of Grace and keep it going --- and going and going and going to the end of my journey here ----

 

Peace to you WaterBuoy and good luck with your numbness of mind ----

Lol!! That was a zinger. Unsafe...you think poetry like WB's comes from a numb mind? Alrighty, then.

 

Hi Kimmio   your quote   Lol!! Unsafe...you think poetry like WB's comes from a numb mind?

 

I never said WaterBuoy had a numb mind ---he is saying that in his quote ----this is his quote not mine ----numbiness states of mind are best!

 

So if he makes a statement like this then he obviously believes it for himself ---- 

 

Peace

Will chi stop and ponder that? No ... knowledge is too close to thought and knowledge is something left uncovered as emotionally unsafe ... unless you'd like to poke the smoke'n aches to see if there is an amber glow of wisdom there ... berried ... as fruit of the lost tree ... journal! Thats an X-elle that things go round ... the weals of mercy ... poem Izis'ole ... the Grand Nantes  of the brain in an awe some stir ...

 

I can almost smell it like the Celtic Fires 've þêðè ... you know the aule ph' art in the Pew, one wicca'd b'idée divinely warped to humour the secure beyond? There's a safe myth ... what psychologists called intelligence that's out've 'ere ... and thus we outlanders stand as ridiculous ET'X! Sapiently alert ... as wee drips can be underground ... alas bought a few to come forth ... with a swipe of irony ... OEM'o sapiens evolved ... from the deeps ... and history repeats itself ... leading to additional scro' ups with dippers into the pool of emotions without appropriate Q'Luce ... rye sol's tastes ... when the lights go out in GEO-Gaia ... emotions abound ... looking for lost sensitivities during their Daze ...

 

The numbiness as numinous cannot learn without a good rollicking's Torah of myth ...

 

Be careful how you spell numbiNess Unsafe ... it could lead you to the wrong conjecture on wiz-dumb! Emotions can do that tres vite ... out of the pot onto the pot holder ... and the Pi Guise was poked by a battered lass in tent lye ... the Jared Story of maelis-able brutus ...

 

Can go both ways it appears ... one dark one enlightened of emotional baggage ... akin to Jonah, that's John as common in other phonetic style of a Wahl of a myth like Mobius Dick Stripped and skinned alive as a monster ...

 

The names were changed to protect the innocently unnamed ... unknown gods you should learn about ... so you'd be recognizant when their names come up ... a matter of simple de deuce'n or de duck shin after de whetting ... of the ambivolent burd! She just didn't know ... never saw as ole rye before ... part of the Golden Don Khe ... that bugs yah as a 6'legged nonthingy in hex!

 Pink Floyd enjoyed being comfotably numb, just check out his song to that effect. I am stll trying to figure out how to post the video on utube.

Never mind I just figured it out. What is wrong with being a litlle numb now and then especially comfortably?

"Numb" is the absense of feeling. In that case, defending bigotry by quoting scripture is a numbness of the mind by deflecting all empathy for the harm your faith does.

 

I didn't know they wanted songs here wonderful.

Well - that was a surprise!  I clicked on your video labelled Jerusalem and didn't recognise it.  I can't say I found it very inspriring.

 

This link will take you to the 'real' version of Jerusalem - I hope you enjoy it as much as I did

 

I recommend waiting for and watching the credits!

 

 

The destruction of ije roué's à Lem ... a ruse of the heart in Hebrew ... can really scro' up the thoughts ... the inner battle (kahn eyre) continues to conquer this intangible comment ... possibly initiated by ancient stew-arts (confusing creation to say least) of the lesser power albeit them being Beta ... secondary gods who gave birth to daemon's according to Webster.

 

Who can best Webster as de Lexis ... from where defined thoughts evolved by convention of those who knew word well? Powerful minds who blew ID ...

--Hi kaythecurler-- Everyone I think has an ear for music they like.Yours to me being a bit slow. To me it would be something that could be play at a funeral. Not that it is wrong . But what I hear in my Jerusalem. Is the GOD of the living . Not the dead.  God Bless--airclean33

Air Clean,

Did you consider it in context?

To me the words and the music go together to speak and inspire.  I understand that your musical tastes aren't necessarily going to match mine - that is why there is so much music around!  

 

Hi kaythercurler:

 

Beauitful! It captures the spirit of the original poem by William Blake.

Interesting metaphor riff in the OP :3

 

There's a church nearish here

 

 

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Personally I'm all for going numb from time to time. Nothing beats a good nap on a weekend afternoon.

 

Actually, rest is an important component in one's spiritual jouney - whether that be actual, literal sleep, or else quiet moments of prayer and meditation.

 

There are those who think that the answer to spirituality is simply to keep themselves busy. That, however, was never God's plan.

 

We need times of contemplation to be refreshed.

Hi Dcn  Jae --There is nothing  wrong with a good rest. You know though  Jae just in the last month or two. I'v been talk with the Lord . As I sleep. My wife wakes me and asks what am  I saying. I just say what did you here. She says I don't know could't understand a word you were saying. I just say I gusse I was talking to some one else then. You know Jae I think the secret to spirtuality. Is to be with GOD in all things and in all ways. Are Spirit  has need of sustenance as well. In Joy--In pain-- In Love and in Hurt. We who walk with Him. May always be at rest ,for He is with us.His Power is around and in us . There is no room for evil if your house is filled to the top with GOD.  --God Bless --airclean33

 

Hi airclean33    your quote     We who walk with Him. May always be at rest ,for He is with us.His Power is around and in us .

 

You are sooo right there ----as a matter of fact God can only work in our lives  when we are at complete rest ----When we keep the power on we can rest in His presents for sure -----

 

 

Not to mention the blindly following dogma without much apparent critical thought......

 

Unquestioning belief in dogma is, well, unquestioning. One can't expect people who believe unquestioningly to question what they believe.

 

-Yes I find it very sad that many on wondercafe . Don"T seem to have much Christain dogma. Perhaps an understanding about Dogma is may help.

I like this one.---

In Christianity, religious beliefs are defined by the Church.^[5] It is usually on scripture or communicated by church authority.^[6] It is believed that these dogmas will lead human beings towards redemption and thus the “paths which lead to God".^[7]

 

 

I just  think that people often grow into being wiser about what they believe. We are all a work in progress. I used to be pretty zealous in my younger days - very rigid - but I wouldn't have believed that at the time. I thought I was being a good Christian. 

Listening to diverse people with different ideas from different perspectives and being willing to learn is the way to authenticity and deepening conviction. Maybe eventually we let go of dogma when we realize that the questions we have don't come packaged in tv shows and by blindly following what other people say.

Why else would we be given the gift of reason? 

IMHO

In 1 Thessaloneans 5:21 (thereabouts) there is scripture that is conflicting about questioning all things like scripture itself. Can you imagine why people who accept scripture without question are conflicted? No wonder they give this essence off of being a bit mad! If only about those that won't join up with them in insane battles.

 

It is sort of numb'n that may be best put according to Proverbs 1:8 that says wisdom about the state we're in will sadden people ...

 

But if you don't know? Then back to the script (above) in verse 19 "quench not the spirit" a purely Roman thing as it interferes with war if you been whetted by other sects ... a romantic vision of peace or is that an abba'd piece? I did say that abba'd is based on an old Hebrew  abberation ... where if you separate them for a while they'll got right at it ... that could lead to conflicts of interest ... depending on how ID interpreted ... a different perspective than absolute?

 

I have this image of Davidus and Bathe a Sheba ... that po' dark soul wandering about in the san ... a mythical place or just plainly beyond those that can't see thy's attire when presented ... for cloaking dis spys'd thoughts ...

 

Ditties considered a'crude anywhere  else that includes stoics that are too emotional to absorb thoughts and let the emotional baggage drift ... as cataclysmic ... when you've gone off the edge of sanity ... such fabrics have two sides like quanta of mêmè brane  ... mêmè; a common thing called UR ... something psychic for emotional peole to escape ... it comes to you latently tho' as hermeneutic ... so it follows  logic ...

 

Is that reason able ?

 

WaterBuoy   

 

This is the scripture you speak of and commentary on it ---always go to the Word of God to test what you hear ----

 

We need to test all with God's word ----What does God's word say ---

 

1 Thessalonians 5:21---Clarke's commentary

 

Proverbs all things - Whatever ye hear in these prophesyings or preachings, examine by the words of Christ, and by the doctrines which, from time to time, we have delivered unto you in our preaching and writings. Try the spirits - the different teachers, by the word of God.

 

Hold fast that which is good - Whatever in these prophesyings has a tendency to increase your faith, love, holiness, and usefulness, that receive and hold fast.

There were prophets or teachers even at that time who professed to be of God, and yet were not.

 

Peace

--Hi   ninjafaery-- Believe it or not .I have had children teach me GODS word. Yes my GOD even will speak through Children.I learned this only after being a Christain for about a month. There are many ways our GOD can teach. God Bless--airclean33

"There were prophets or teachers even at that time who professed to be of God, and yet were not."

 

UNSAFE: How do you know which is which in the bible, or even in present day? As I have noticed before and said previously there are a lot of conflicts in the bible for a peace-making people under a genteel and loving god. Now a god of great passion would they suffer great emotional problems? This would offset any wisdom of God while in an emotional state.

 

Perhaps this is why we are told to test everything ... but as a people taught that stupidity is best ... how would such a numbed population know how to test a raging bull? Perhaps with a sword between the shoulders ... the Spanish way of seeing how infallable the great bull is! The British just used a Broadax to instilll stupidy by fear and anger ... it works as you see ... what Bush terrorism did to the world about fear of a small country possessing a single nuclear bomb ... this from a leader controlling how many warheads? Something smells here in the theology of Bush and other fearmongers that I won't mention that follow a "book" to war with most of the world including other Christians ... and yet that book says over 366 times to have no fear. Myself I fear lack of intelligence as it is not what you know that'll get you ... but the anonymous ... a thing akin to unbridled emotions ... it excessively controls the heart and mind leading it to failure ... and thus the body departs ... wiser but far too late. Perhaps if we learned from history ... but that is possibly just satire ... right? That wouldn't be true like the dead controlling the world as is suggested by one script  ... and the meek have it expecially when they are serving as compost ... like dead phi-shs! They've been jerked free of the lower pond ... what the Hebrew refers to as lower waters mayim ... where the pissing contests go on between dummies.

 

Alas while in Rome do as the Romans do and act crazy too ... so they won't believe you're thinking, or you could become a Golden Ass or a bronzed butte ...

 

Then others say not to test god ... and how would you know the one with the keys to the great prophecies ... if you didn't run them through the mill? Near god similarities or pseudo persons are thus to be tested too for what they know. Sometimes the work is disappointing as the intellect appears to be out there somewhere un-named at present ... you're not allowed to say a person is a nothing as an intellect ... even if it may be the objective of overly emotional people ... or this is how I think as a condemned tester of souls. I've been told a lot that I was going to hell for thinking all things were to be tested ... even mire gods as earthy they're dirty things to deal with. I'd rather a thinking dais-mon (the spelling can vary under the rules of redaction if you can get your hands on a copy of said laws).

 

I really don't know about this not knowing, innocence or stupidy rule except perhaps for officials of the church that would like to pull the wool over our eyes for their own self-centred purpose of power (it corrupts you know). I'd rather have power over word ... something that emotional people would consider nothing ... very humble power.  

 

God did give me a processing unit to put to work in the great laboratory heh built ... I got it started up free of all the crap that was falling in the dumb field ... and you know it works ... a mere human can learn about how stupid the greater part of humanity is to follow non-sense. This is a dilemma of insensitivity in many humans ... as their neural system doesn't work well enough to support brains ... did you know that the brain works better with a good vocabulary of word and understanding thereoff in a recessive nature? Then you can sloe-get along learning more!

 

It is a peculiar situation laid out for us as scattered intellects ... no? ... a'kin to fractal lights? I suppose in blind faith this is nothing to look at like a rye soul! These too are to be saved by and for authorities ... who like to poke at eM to make sure they don't function superbly ... that would be a threat to the personal self! Just an observation from a humble useless soul that believes in Utilitarian Philosophy ... not very acceptable to the unbalanced believer ... in which psyche is lost to eM by choice just to dress up innocence in a different fabric!

 

Of course, a theme song for this sermonthread could be that classic by Huey Louis & the News, "Power of Love"

 

 

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The power of love ... just blows the institutionaized mind when it moves ... appearing as a RIPP line mule train (a line with much freight as emotional baggage) that which carried delight of a child of love into Jerusalem. And considering the mess they're in over there ... they haven't learned much since ... about natural laws of reciprocation, or all actions having reactions. This may come back at, or on yah later! Humour has this latent quality in uncertain quantities ... undefined as yet abstract ridiculousness opposing subtle things as yet unfigured by those without thought! Like a amazonian power ... eL uv that is ... put patently denied by contrived hate! real men can do this with terrorism ... it is well proven to be true.

 

Thos of us out of it giggle at the rid-IHC uLes power ... downright up there with Levantine, or is that leviathon, a large giggle well distributed so it can't been seen in the larger temple under the stars ... a mire or earthy as 'ole? What celestial fetility as crap fall into when presenting itself as a rye prince ... well-enshrouded as so deep no one can see ID! They used to sing about it as bringing in the sheaths as a coverup for the cutting edge of Cloe's thing ...

 

But are greatest Harper condones it ... I add the"..." as there's no end to this crap! The common people (pagans and heathens) just love the fecundity for growing humours! Why the ephraim genre giggles when properly spitted ... by Vlad the Impaler (imp ale'r; an impulse towards frothy situations in light of the situation of soon to be scro'd out of anything you previously gathered as thought). This is defined as ecclesiatic to those of certain institutionalized modes. So theists, deists and those of other opinions are not so certain ... and thus it phloes ... as disambiguation or infinite un-robing!

 

But you need to know your metaphors! Whats under that is po'rly defined ... and could cause you to blither, or some other type of lispe as you tongue is at tilde or Kant ... as everything drifts ... like thoughts that go round ... primal DOS device? This is circular reason ... the rest must return ...