if Racial Profiling were in affect, would Jesus be removed from the country because he was of middle Eastern descent? what do you think? What would we do about it?
He would certainly be on the CIA list as a possible terrorist and agitator. And I suspect His sermon on the mount might be interrupted by riot police.
Good to see you back.
paradox3
Posted on: 11/25/2011 20:35
Crazyheart,
Do you have a good definition of "racial profiling"? I am never sure exactly what the term means (but I always think I really should know ... )
gecko46
Posted on: 11/25/2011 20:54
When are you expecting Jesus to arrive? I'd happily meet his plane or boat and offer an escort.
graeme
Posted on: 11/25/2011 22:15
Racial profiling is one of the sloppier forms of what is, in any case, bogus science.
It's to identify people with ideas or attitudes that they are supposed to have based on racial or national inheritance - and sometimes just on religion.
Jews are rich.
Moslems are terrorists.
Chinese are treacherous.
Germans are evil (1939 to 1960s or so).
Germans are hard workers. 2000 on.
We used to learn to hate the Chinese Communists. Now they're good. So racial profiles can change.
The French were our valiant allies in 1945. About ten years ago, when they didn't do something the US wanted them to, the term French Fries was banned.. Fried potato bits were renamed freedom fries.
It's all part of the same game of dumb labelling.
graeme
Posted on: 11/25/2011 22:17
I think Jesus did come back to earth not long ago. But nobody came to see him because we are all busy Christmas shopping.
Alex
Posted on: 11/28/2011 17:32
To me racial profiling makes no sense to me. While I see race and culture, I identify more with outsiders or different people of other cultures and races. I see these types of differences as much more important than the colur of skin, or the culture.
One guy I am getting to know now (as a potential boyfriend) is a Muslim immigrant. We meet when I posted a message on Facebook looking for someone to go with me to see Irshad Manji when she spoke in Ottawa earlier this years. he was a friend of a friend. He could not go, because of work, but he was looking for a BF. Now people who believe in racial profiling would say we would have very little in common. I being a Protestant descenadant from ALoyalists, and Scottish settllers from 1802.
Howevr we are both gay, religious, autistic, and we boith are or becoming writers. Which means we both experience rejection from our own religious groups, who we both believe most others in them are wrong regarding many issues like homophobia. It al;so means while we have difficulties communicating with others so we both use writing as a way of expressing our thoughts and feelings. We are also both reformers. While I come from a well to do family, and have a lower income, he comes from a low income family but is very wealthy, from his career as an engineer, and his many inventions in the telecommunication fields. We are also both much more open with our families than most gay people, and have difficulties socialising within the gay world. I live in a two bedroom apartment, and use a family cottage in PEI, while he has a 5 bedroom home on a lake and has a "cottage" on the Turkish coast of the Mediterraneansea, which he has his extended family use. I am HIV+ and he is not.
The differences in race, and religion, place of origin, are the least of our differences. They shape who we are, but less than other factors. Our differences are more likely to be from our economic differences, and our health status. Yet our autism, and our political postions and theological ones places us in similar places on the outsided of our cultures.
Put all of these things together and what I envision is living together as writers, spending our summers on the coast in PEI, winters on the Mediterranean, sharing our lives and writing. Why would I see race or religion? When instead I can see campanionship and happyness.
Alex
Posted on: 11/28/2011 17:30
BTW for those looking, for a bf for me, keep doing so, ans we are really taking our time, and do not know what will happen.
graeme
Posted on: 11/28/2011 17:53
Can I get a commission? One of those winters on the mediteranean might be nice - though I found that area could get a little chilly in winter.
Alex
Posted on: 11/29/2011 19:05
I'll just make sure too have a fire roaring in the fireplace, while we drink hot chocolate and snuggle during those chilly times/
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 11/29/2011 19:59
Good experiences with you and your potential sweetie, Alex :3
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 11/29/2011 20:07
Racial profiling?
Not all of our behaviours we are conscious of. Some aspects of reality are tuned in, some are tuned out, depending on our BS. Various groups, states, etc grok this and know how to manipulate them, to keep them within societal norms -- a domesticated populace is an easier to control populace--this includes things like America and Saudi Arabia.
SFW:
MikePaterson
Posted on: 12/02/2011 15:04
That's a pompously urbanist-culturalist statement, if may say so, Whimsey. And the place he takes his "operating system" analogy to is plain goofy... too much self-indulgent intakje of his favourite "pharmacological agent" maybe? He should spend some real time in a real culture if he can find one that'll let him hang around long enough...
Comments
crazyheart
Posted on: 11/25/2011 19:21
oops ignore this one.
graeme
Posted on: 11/25/2011 20:03
He would certainly be on the CIA list as a possible terrorist and agitator. And I suspect His sermon on the mount might be interrupted by riot police.
Good to see you back.
paradox3
Posted on: 11/25/2011 20:35
Crazyheart,
Do you have a good definition of "racial profiling"? I am never sure exactly what the term means (but I always think I really should know ... )
gecko46
Posted on: 11/25/2011 20:54
When are you expecting Jesus to arrive? I'd happily meet his plane or boat and offer an escort.
graeme
Posted on: 11/25/2011 22:15
Racial profiling is one of the sloppier forms of what is, in any case, bogus science.
It's to identify people with ideas or attitudes that they are supposed to have based on racial or national inheritance - and sometimes just on religion.
Jews are rich.
Moslems are terrorists.
Chinese are treacherous.
Germans are evil (1939 to 1960s or so).
Germans are hard workers. 2000 on.
We used to learn to hate the Chinese Communists. Now they're good. So racial profiles can change.
The French were our valiant allies in 1945. About ten years ago, when they didn't do something the US wanted them to, the term French Fries was banned.. Fried potato bits were renamed freedom fries.
It's all part of the same game of dumb labelling.
graeme
Posted on: 11/25/2011 22:17
I think Jesus did come back to earth not long ago. But nobody came to see him because we are all busy Christmas shopping.
Alex
Posted on: 11/28/2011 17:32
To me racial profiling makes no sense to me. While I see race and culture, I identify more with outsiders or different people of other cultures and races. I see these types of differences as much more important than the colur of skin, or the culture.
One guy I am getting to know now (as a potential boyfriend) is a Muslim immigrant. We meet when I posted a message on Facebook looking for someone to go with me to see Irshad Manji when she spoke in Ottawa earlier this years. he was a friend of a friend. He could not go, because of work, but he was looking for a BF. Now people who believe in racial profiling would say we would have very little in common. I being a Protestant descenadant from ALoyalists, and Scottish settllers from 1802.
Howevr we are both gay, religious, autistic, and we boith are or becoming writers. Which means we both experience rejection from our own religious groups, who we both believe most others in them are wrong regarding many issues like homophobia. It al;so means while we have difficulties communicating with others so we both use writing as a way of expressing our thoughts and feelings. We are also both reformers. While I come from a well to do family, and have a lower income, he comes from a low income family but is very wealthy, from his career as an engineer, and his many inventions in the telecommunication fields. We are also both much more open with our families than most gay people, and have difficulties socialising within the gay world. I live in a two bedroom apartment, and use a family cottage in PEI, while he has a 5 bedroom home on a lake and has a "cottage" on the Turkish coast of the Mediterraneansea, which he has his extended family use. I am HIV+ and he is not.
The differences in race, and religion, place of origin, are the least of our differences. They shape who we are, but less than other factors. Our differences are more likely to be from our economic differences, and our health status. Yet our autism, and our political postions and theological ones places us in similar places on the outsided of our cultures.
Put all of these things together and what I envision is living together as writers, spending our summers on the coast in PEI, winters on the Mediterranean, sharing our lives and writing. Why would I see race or religion? When instead I can see campanionship and happyness.
Alex
Posted on: 11/28/2011 17:30
BTW for those looking, for a bf for me, keep doing so, ans we are really taking our time, and do not know what will happen.
graeme
Posted on: 11/28/2011 17:53
Can I get a commission? One of those winters on the mediteranean might be nice - though I found that area could get a little chilly in winter.
Alex
Posted on: 11/29/2011 19:05
I'll just make sure too have a fire roaring in the fireplace, while we drink hot chocolate and snuggle during those chilly times/
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 11/29/2011 19:59
Good experiences with you and your potential sweetie, Alex :3
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 11/29/2011 20:07
Racial profiling?
Not all of our behaviours we are conscious of. Some aspects of reality are tuned in, some are tuned out, depending on our BS. Various groups, states, etc grok this and know how to manipulate them, to keep them within societal norms -- a domesticated populace is an easier to control populace--this includes things like America and Saudi Arabia.
SFW:
MikePaterson
Posted on: 12/02/2011 15:04
That's a pompously urbanist-culturalist statement, if may say so, Whimsey. And the place he takes his "operating system" analogy to is plain goofy... too much self-indulgent intakje of his favourite "pharmacological agent" maybe? He should spend some real time in a real culture if he can find one that'll let him hang around long enough...