noted by Basil Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London, Aspect's findings "indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of reality".

Yuppers,

realism ain't so, Johnny!

Thus spaketh science (that endeavour where, using reason & intuition, we look at something from a child's perspective and DISCOVER!)

Things called 'fields' that I can't see or observe but have to take on empirical trust seem to 'make' up everything, from breath to beasts to bibliophiles.

Even terms like 'distance' and 'time' these modern theologians use the terms 'space-like separations' and 'time-like separations'.

At least 18 different models to account for one Physicist's murmerings on the Quantum...

(like trying to interpret da Bibble; everyone worship the sandal!  no, the gourd!)

Hey, is that a Whim button???

That we don't know very much at all is something I can't dispute.  The more we learn, the more we understand how little we know.

What I find interesting, is that one of the things we do know, is that "Jesus and His father WERE one."  We don't know squat about anything else, but we know that one because.....HEY!  Look over there!

OMG, it's VOLTAIRESAGANARISTOTLE in a KAFTAN!   RUN!

Not WERE one. Jesus and God ARE one.

I and the Father are one.

-Jesus

This, to me, is indicative of Jesus' experience of universal unity.

If universal unity, inseparableness or oneness is, as I feel and think, the basic state of being, or the ultimate nature of reality, then Jesus only felt what is. No big deal. Anyone can. Returning from this lofty state to serve suffering humanity is more difficult.

In Buddhism, attaining that ultimate experience and knowledge is attaining Buddhahood. And someone who attains Buddhahood and then returns to ordinary humanity and becomes a servant of suffering humanity is a Bhodisatva.

Jesus is our Christian Bhodisattva.

The greatest thing about reality is that we are god-like inasmuch as we are the creators of it. One unique universe for each of us—and we can re-create and re-re-create it as much as we like.

And this self-created reality is not just our subjective or conceptual reality. Science tells us that our subjective creation or re-creation of reality influences the real, ontological or objective reality.

If this is so, then we indeed are as gods.

We are as gods and might as well get good at it.

-Stuart Brand, editor, Whole Earth Catalog

We are ALL 'one' --- (Including Hitler, Nero, Graeme...)

Yeah, what's that famous line, everything that is human is also in me?

Yep!

We're all stardust.

Question is - from a faith perspective - are we connected in other ways?

Methinks we are. 

Happily standing temporally corrected.

And of sages throughout history....

'The ultimate state of reality'? Or perhaps this is  (merely?) the next stage of awareness...hey! only 14,654 levels to go. (Adter all, we have an infinite numbers of Universes to examine)

(I remember thinking that Ice cream was the very ultimate of existance...four score years later...I think it not so much.)

Serving suffering humanity is a problem  which is why, I think the good book advises

start with your neighbor.

I thought it was Ghandi. Or M. L. King, Or my Sufi neighbor. And think Chasenisticly, What has caused the most death in human history? 

(later, we discuss what has caused more of a feeling of purpose in life than lofty thoughts,,,)

How many sages do you think the world could stand?

'The poor you will always have with you.'

I am, the income tax people declare, poor.

I have never felt more comfortable, wanting what I have.

No sage, I, no great truths to proclaim

Happy with my curosity (Google and Wikipedia are better'n ice cream!)

Yer posts are always a pleasure.

Me thinks you are right. It seems to me that people have been yelling that for millienna

-- to crowds of greedy deaf-ears.

Cordially,

We are connected in many ways

(NSFW Trent Reznor song as background music)

We are connected in many ways

We are connected in many ways

We are connected in many ways

We are connected in many ways

Yes, PP, I feel and think that we are not only connected inasmuch as we are all energy, and energy is a singularity. There is also a connection of spirit or consciousness.

The more conscious we become, the more we experience and intellectually realize that we are an inseparable, active and creative part of the creator consciousness or the creative force or power of the universe. This, I think, is the spiritual connection you are talking about.

(sidebar: Pilgrims Progress, were you channelling a Woodstock era Joni Mitchell with "we are stardust"?)

Being ONE, does not mean being the same or being singular or being identical...

We are all ONE.. connected...

One race, human.

Humans everywhere share a common and complex anatomy, physiology, genome, and brain structure.

We all share common DNA, back to common ancestors

What we do, don't do, affects others.

 We are one...

"we are stardust, we are golden....."

Yes, we are ONE inseparable whole, wherein everything and everyone is connected, and everything and everyone affects everything and everyone else, but everyone is also a unique manifestation of the whole, so much so that neither we nor anyone else can say precisely what our uniqueness consists of.

Thus, we invent or create ourselves, each other, and the world around us. And this creative process is ongoing and openended. We are not only stardust and golden, we are creators in the image of the ultimate creator.

(I especially love the bit where even though there are more than 5 different interpretations of the 'what does QM mean?' and that different physicists hold different interpretations to be true, the results of the equations are right.  The delightful paradox of how something can be true in some sense and false in some sense at the same time)

Online courses:  Institute for Quantum Computing

This lecturer is such a cutie.

Which leads to a possible explanation of a deep perplexing curiosity

The Force?

Stardust? Fallout of heaven! Dante was right on in his humour ... divided comedy ... phoqah up requires conjugation? Fits right into the first versus of Genesis and creation created a void between heaven and earth. Some called it Reuben (a Hebrew A'B'D) that's not proper Engish .. and got translated as divorce ... so they could put it together again later? Would such chaos humour the Master(s)? Then one has to sandwich that ...

Then the quantum state interests me like greis manna being separated into black and white (love and awareness) ... that's the word ... many hate wordy passages ... too often they reflect on errors and holy people don't like to admit to such flaws ... cracks in the page (yeoman) as aesthetic ... meaning somethings missing! You have to interact ... thinkings good as an ouside choice ... OBI?

Often just cracks me up ... into a lighter vein! Ah vanities of vanity ... processing like digesting black manna of bread ... scarlet poem-per Nick eL ... devil all read in the face of it ... caught thinking again about infinite stretches in a limited realm created by Christians who drew the confining line ... then Christ stepped out ...

Pick up some intellect on the way thro' ... it's lighter than love that weigh's even the mire down ... ponderous issue ...

Warped humours? They'll come back at cha in a second consideration .. a double take?

Not sure how happy Graeme will be to see himself mentioned alongside Hitler and Nero

Roman culture was not famous for its advances in mathematics (just imagine doing advanced mathematics with Roman numerals! :-) When we took over the Roman culture, we took over their mathematical ignorance from them. The all-important mathematical, philosophical and spiritual concept of zero was as unknown to us as it was to the Romans. That's why we started reckoning the beginning of modern time with the year one rather than zero.

The mathematical, philosophical and spiritual importance of zero did not dawn on us until Arabic mathematics were translated from Arabic into Latin in the 13th century,  when the illustrious Holy Roman Emperor Fredrick II instructed his most eminent mathematician, the Italian Leonardo Fibonacci, to disseminate Arabic numerals and mathematics in the Christian West. Alas, Fibonacci's teachings came to be known as "fibs." And the Arabic "Science of Al Jabira," a. k. a. Algebra, became known as "all jibberish." 

Unfortunately, the all-important concept of zero, along with algebra and other high mathematics, is still fibs and gibberish to many of us. Yet, when zero is understood, everything is understood. In order to understand everything, or anything, we have to understand nothing.

Unfortunately, in our day and age, when the mathematical concept of zero is introduced to students in high school, the philosophical and spiritual  significance of zero is not taught. Yet, in Arabic mathematics, the teaching of mathematics was inseparable from the teaching of philosophy and spirituality. To them, the pursuit of mathematics was an art, and a philosophical and spiritual pursuit, and the art of mathematics was inseparably intertwined with the arts of philosophy and spirituality.

I think one of the biggest mistakes of our culture was to separate mathematics and science from philosophy and spirituality. This mistake is now being remedied, at least at the leading edge of mathematics and science. But the insights of the leading edge have not yet found their way into the school rooms of the nation.

The ten-digit system we use, including zero, was developed in India and picked up the Arabs (as you state) and introduced to Europe.    It did not become popular in Europe until the invention of the printing press.  

I am going to add a section on algebra to my "Good things from world of Islam" if I can find my history of mathematics book.  My kids may have put it in storage.

But the Greeks accomplished a great deal and you should not minimize it.

The Romans dropped the ball, from a math perspective.  And the Arabs never recovered from the Mongol invasion.

A great depiction of ADD, if I ever read one.

I was more trying for an example of misdirection.  If you're suggesting that believers have a short attention span, I think that's a tad unfair.

Jumping to the defense of believers, chansen? Is that perhaps a first? (Actually, I was hinting at projection but obviously in too subtle a manner .)

Hi EO:

It was not just the Mongol invasion that gave the Golden Age of the Arab culture the boot. The Christian crusades also contributed to its demise.

Of course, the Arabs borrowed  some of their mathematics from anient Greece, India, and other parts of the ancient world, but they added discoveries of their own to the body of mathematics, mainly Algebra, which was entirely their invention, and without which our modern day science and technology would not be possible.

As I said before, the great thing about these Arab mathematicians and scientist of old was that they were also philosophers and mystics. We Westerners took over their advances in mathematics and science, but divorced mathematics and science from spirituality. Our cardinal mistake. (pun intended :-)

Arminius,

I don't know, here's a historical timeline, and I don't really see how the Christians could even make a lasting dent in such a powerful global empire?

Hi Inanna:

Interesting timeline. Yes, it shows the expansion of the Muslim global empire, but not its decline from a leading high culture to a warrior culture.

At the beginning of the Crusades, the Islamic world was governed by the Bagdad Caliphate. The Caliphate, wich had governed the Islamic world during its Golden Age, and had cultivated the high arts but not the art of war, relied on the war-like Mamelukes from the northern parts of their empire—the Caucasus and the steppes beyond—to repel the Christian invaders. The Mamelukes subsequently became the warrior caste of Islamic society.

Over the 200 years of crusader wars, the Mamelukes fought not only the Christian invaders but also the Mongol invaders and eventually defeated both in the late 13th century. For this they attained great fame and much power in the Muslim world, so much so that the leader of the Mamelukes, Baybars, crowned himself Sultan and supreme ruler of the Islamic world. The war-like Mamelukes governed the  Islamic world from then on, and were largely responsible for the decline of the Arab culture from a leading high culture to a warrior culture.

Wow.

(On various quantum theories)

Perhaps not proving others false, pehaps more true.

I am living.

I was living when you weren't

I am literate.

I am wise.

I am brilient!

I lie.

Your videos are great! (Exception: "No secrets" What a load of ignorant drivel, from someone who doesn't know basic electronics.)

Yikes! I just realized that by reading this post, you have altered reality!

Stop!!!!!!!!

I got it

On ocassion you and I are one....

Can you just imagine; no more "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME!!!!" blow ups with teenagers or "WHAT WERE YOU UP TO LAST NIGHT?" from spouses?

Some people think they know it all ... and then there are those of us that take the perspective on an infinite world in which a mortal knows nothing ... zilch ... then both Jews and Romans were in cahoots they didn't allow for nothing nor infinite ... but the Jews religion was fearful about the unknown (that's big eh).

Some powerful people that think they are on top don't realize what supports eM and are contunuously shooting themselve sin the foot ... the soul of human culture? That's bootm line eh ... the rich cannot be so without underlying cos ...

But could they understand while blinded by the glow of gold and silver? Pure satire eh in an imaginary realm Bill Cosby, or was that Robin Williams that explored that aspect of psyche? Mere perspective in a real world of the bag man ... the one left holding 'Is Saac when there's no one left to phoqah about ...

That's what higher powers desire ... leaving them listless about loosing the potential to screw the wee people out of nothing ... the rapture ... a 'hole separate story! The other side according to Charles Harvey. Few really consider the neighbour as part of self ... ich-ai ... isn't that rite Arm?

Towards an explanation on why our civilization needs more energy as time goes on

(this brings to mind: since universe seems to be expanding at an ever-expanding rate, does that mean that universe needs more energy to sustain itself? in supernatural theist terms: G_ddess is constantly rummaging around for misplaced universe power batteries, that's why Sie needs more worshippers!)

Ah, memories, Gorden Loghtfoot and I spent a pleasent (i.e., drinking) evening in Toronto --

during the time when he was first taking off. Nice guy.

As to the reading of minds: easy, it's...(Hang on a sec, it's the phone)

WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY NEURONS ARE ON STRIKE?

Oh, oh. I feel a lot of wave functions collapsing..

Oh, NOOOOOOOoooooo

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Ah de phatë lad-Ai in the ten's bi Kae Neigh strikes again ...

Is that metaphor or par Able, subliminal under des Une? Pure dip thong! Isn't that a deuce meant ... fore th'aught ...

If you didn't you're fallout ... mire from heaven! Science estimates that some 50,000 tons a year fall on the surface of mere earth that was here-say fore mentionned ...

Then some mortal authorities say there fore fathers were the initiation and mud D'Eires had nothing to do with cedairs in le Ban'd Nun sole ... deviated sept eM ... or just forked tongue of satirical presentation aboutends ... as time's Goan on ... kicked a bo'ET ... as blossoming Ai Jet ... Dark Flowering?

Some can't see ID passing as primal power, mortal can do nothing about ... data's the immortal roué-L of d/dt's ... all that remains of the spirit other'n th'aughts ... they go on in story of des ole thing-heh ... hung up as dip thong ... binary code words? One has to put eM together ... self-construct of psyche ... arrives here empty ... some never get beyond that wee piece of intelligence a mire blot in space or is that bote ...

One needs to study the alternates to get the drift ... Cos eM a'Logis pace ... with bumps ... for f(rogue) thinkers ... ambidextrous? Or is that satan-IC versus the emotions ...