Current estimates== There are some 400 billion stars in the milky way and some 50 billion planets... and if 1% are in the Goldilocks zone then 500 million planets in our galaxy alone that are capable of supporting life...do you still think we are unique or really really insignificant....
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InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 04/21/2013 09:44
we are BOTH at the same time :3
welcome to the anthropocene :3
airclean33
Posted on: 04/21/2013 10:08
Hi Happy Genius--You ask--are we unique ?Why has life been found on any other planet?God never said there was. But then again He did not say, I believe there was not.You ask are we really insignificant. I believe as the Bible says what is man that GOD cares so much? Life on this earth is of GOD. He who is Life itself. If life is on any other world. We will also praise the LORD I hope you have a great day. airclean33
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 04/21/2013 10:12
Hi Happy Genius--You ask--are we unique ?Why has life been found on any other planet?God never said there was. But then again He did not say, I believe there was not.You ask are we really insignificant. I believe as the Bible says what is man that GOD cares so much? Life on this earth is of GOD. He who is Life itself. If life is on any other world. We will also praise the LORD I hope you have a great day. airclean33
if and when we find sapient life on other worlds in our lifetime that you'll be able to read your bible and know that Jesus died for your sins and not try to apply that to the aliens or that they are in need of saving if you find they haven't heard of Jesus...i know it might be difficult for you, but i'm sure you'll be able to resist :3
Mendalla
Posted on: 04/21/2013 10:38
Oddly, I've preached on this subject, albeit before the most recent discoveries about exo-planets.
My take on it is that we are a very small, but very integral part of a very big Cosmos.
But that very big Cosmos is also an integral part of us. The matter in our bodies came from the Big Bang, just like all other matter. "We are made of starstuff" to quote an overused line.
This means that on one level of the cosmic scale, the world of simple observation and materialism, we are highly insignificant. We could become extinct tomorrow and it would centuries, possibly millenia before any extrasolar civilizations would even know we were gone.
On another, we (and other sapients if they exist) are highly significant. We are, philosophically speaking, the Cosmos contemplating itself; thinking and dreaming about its own enormity. In this respect, we are integral to the Cosmos and it would be a lesser place, in some respects, without us.
Mendalla
Arminius
Posted on: 04/21/2013 13:30
Every one of us is a unique being, a unique outcome of this self-creative universe of ours. So is our planet Earth.
Other planets in the universe may have evolved life. Those planets and their life-forms are equally unique. Some of these life-forms may be farther advanced in consciousness than we.
But unique is just that: unique, not special! Every unique being is equally unique. Something unique can't "uniquer" than unique, or less unique than unique. There is profound equality in uniqueness.
But uniqueness came out of sameness, and ultimately is sameness. The singularity named energy is utter sameness. But, by the power of its transcendental power, it transformed itself into its opposite—uniqueness—while remaining sameness. In other words, the singularity named energy diversified and "uniquefied" itself while remaining the self-creative singularity which it eternally is.
The forms that energy continuously creates and re-creates itself into are unique, and implicated in time and space, but the substance of which the forms consist—energy—is eternal, timeless, and self creative. IT has all of the attributes of a or THE cosmic deity, but it is just energy, albeit endowed with the transcendental power to transform itself into its opposite while remaining the same.
We can call IT God, or energy, but IT is our substance and essence, our ultimate "I".
(BIG enough, HG? Can't get bigger than that. :-)
Neo
Posted on: 04/21/2013 13:54
Humanity represents the "Mind of God" within our Earth. And our Earth in turn is a great a centre or vortex of energy in the body of our Solar System, the great Atum or God of Life. And then our Sun, in turn, is an even greater Centre, the great "Heart Chakra" in the body of the great Cosmic Man Who stretches across space. Life within life with life. At each turn, an newly expanded awareness or consciousness is experienced. The Cosmic Christ has cosmic awareness that is farther above us than the Sun is above a firefly.
blackbelt
Posted on: 04/21/2013 15:29
whether there is life on other planets I'm not sure, what I do believe is if there is, the distance is to great to travel to earth in our physical space time continuum so the ufos we see today in my opinion have always been here, I believe they are multi dimensional beings , the gods of old, the Anauki spoken of in scripture, demonic in nature, the fallen one .
i find it intresting that in the name Of Christ, abductions have stoped, that tell me there spirtuial in nature
http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 04/21/2013 15:46
pretty neet, blackbelt :3
it reminds me of some advice i've been given aboot dismissing spirits -- just ask them to leave and they'll go...
if their methods do work then i think it'll be another good tool that can be used by abductees :3
blackbelt
Posted on: 04/21/2013 15:51
it reminds me of some advice i've been given aboot dismissing spirits -- just ask them to leave and they'll go...
wrong advice
if their methods do work then i think it'll be another good tool that can be used by abductees :3
i do believe you think that
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 04/21/2013 16:19
think Deities have it easy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL9F43D2762F5E6EE5&v=I-hYq3Y9IoU&NR=1...
aliens on a shopping trip
just some pre-born, pre-raptured, pre-human, pre-fictional, pre-christians milling aboot
(and the sign says 'hylozoism')
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 04/21/2013 16:45
the whole world is becoming jewish
the global human spring continues
Neo
Posted on: 04/21/2013 16:49
whether there is life on other planets I'm not sure, what I do believe is if there is, the distance is to great to travel to earth in our physical space time continuum so the ufos we see today in my opinion have always been here, I believe they are multi dimensional beings , the gods of old, the Anauki spoken of in scripture, demonic in nature, the fallen one .
i find it intresting that in the name Of Christ, abductions have stoped, that tell me there spirtuial in nature
http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm
Really BB? Ha, ha, ha, great "research" group, sounds so official, when if fact they are just another right winged, nut-bar group who are extremely narrow minded and biased about the whole subject.
i.e.
"What causes someone to have an abduction experience?"
This is a question that secular researchers do not have an answer for to this day.
But we at CE4 Research Group have found through our research that people can have this experience because of one of three reasons or a combination of these reasons:
1. You asked for it. Some people actually ask to have the experience to know what is like or about. Be careful what you ask for.
2. You unknowingly open a door to the realm of this experience. Some people unknowingly opened a door for the experience, by being involved in New Age or Occult activities. When you engage in the unknown things outside of GOD the Creator and His WORD you make yourself vulnerable to these entities. We have found this reason to be the most often found root cause.
3. You are part of an ongoing cycle or social conditioning. When asked about the experiencer's parents or early family life, we found that the opening had come from one or more of the parents. It IS important how you raise your children. When there is a GODLY covering over the family by the head of the household, the family is protected. But if there is No GODLY covering, the family is open to these types of unnatural experiences.
Nothing more, no more possibilities of why someone might claim to have experienced an alien abduction. What a joke. First of all, all the reasons above are extremely biased, bigoted and narrow minded. This is a "research" group? All the answers above lead to the same fear that if you are not a "Christian", then you are subject to the devil. I though you were a little more sophisticated in your thinking than this BB.
So why not a 4th answer?
i.e.
"4. Your alien abduction is part of your own fantasies and dreams and did not really happen. Furthermore, the government has no problem promoting alien abductions as it increases the fear level among the people, and as everyone knows, "fear is control". We, the CE4 Research Group are currently writing the book on this."
And finally, why are these so-called "aliens" always assumed to be fallen angels and evil in nature anyways? I loved your concept of multi-dimensional beings, that's what I believe too, but why are they always "demonic"? You know this for sure? How is that? You do know, however, that UFO's are described in the Bible all time but for some reason these events suddenly become something different, the Hand of God or something but definitely not UFOs.
The Star of Bethlehem, Ezekiel's wheel are good examples of an old day description of a modern day UFO.
See
http://www.google.ca/search?q=ezekiel+wheel&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=...
blackbelt
Posted on: 04/21/2013 17:11
Neo
That link is just one of many, personally speaking, in my experience in research and personal experience, those who have experienced abductions and the like have opened themselves up to it in one form or another through occult means
PS Glad your back and hope you're doing ok
Arminius
Posted on: 04/21/2013 19:11
the whole world is becoming jewish
Well, "God is one(ness)" is a Jewish invention. And if science proves that we are a self-creative universe in a state of oneness, then science will prove the ancient Jews right, and the whole world will become Jewish.
not4prophet
Posted on: 04/21/2013 19:21
Hope not. Manischewitz wine is too sweet.
Arminius
Posted on: 04/21/2013 19:28
Don't worry. We reformed Gentiles will be allowed to drink Cabernet Sauvignon, even beer.
not4prophet
Posted on: 04/21/2013 19:35
Phew
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 04/22/2013 11:38
There is a great variety of whines under the ceruleal blé ...
Sometimes just a mue'n for the bull beyond the trap, and the bull become taur us ... source of dirt and fecundity ... paðis charm ... or just patois ... pa twaddle!
That's wee gnoemons on a journij ... black aspects of the emotional crowd ... what comes out of ID ... nut'n as it were?
Does a person always remember a sin even if that sin is oppressed? Jay Sues that would haunt the hard tacky ones once yah cracked eme ... the reason of the mill'n of the earth ... mill'n Eire as Andy Capped ... put eme to the grind of escape'n this ... a L'uv to die for? Gabriel is that you toot'n ... madd attire ... the sheeves of woman? The wraith goes on ...
Arminius
Posted on: 04/22/2013 11:43
Phew
Well, there's always water, which we can turn into spiritual wine—if we are good Jews and earnest followers of Jesus.
waterfall
Posted on: 04/22/2013 11:50
Phew
Well, there's always water, which we can turn into spiritual wine—if we are good Jews and earnest followers of Jesus.
Jesus always talked about water in such "spiritual" ways, one has to wonder why he didn't turn the wine into water.
Arminius
Posted on: 04/22/2013 19:35
Phew
Well, there's always water, which we can turn into spiritual wine—if we are good Jews and earnest followers of Jesus.
Jesus always talked about water in such "spiritual" ways, one has to wonder why he didn't turn the wine into water.
Alcoholism wasn't a widespread and devastating disease then, or he would have.
not4prophet
Posted on: 04/23/2013 17:35
Every time I see this thread that stupid Paris Hilton song pops in my head.
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 04/24/2013 08:30
How about Wiles Nelson and stardust ... celestial waves as particles?
IONEAN fallout of deep places? Some conversion encountered when crossing that line ... like mind over matter! Ba'aLems as is out side the boundaries as decreed ... a mule of wonder ...
Now are some of these people that we worship dit Zeas? The tale goes on undetected by the minutely aware ... as contemplation is not in style ... seaching out the Gapë is, but the gap is silent ... you could fall right into it as a trap for a man numbed to it's presence ... why the Greek called it Nous, an intimate term for sole ... this extended to par a'noia ... as Romans didn't wish to get into thought patterns ... such things were poked indescriminatedly ... all is fair in love and war ... and the struggle goes on ... for what?
To grow a cognizant beast! Some thnk we need a fluid quantum calculator ... and don't even know it already exists ... they look in the wrong place (alter dimension) for ID!
Machiavelli said this was a Latin cause of collapse, the Empire was not based on decent intelligence ... thus it hung from a tread ... like Paul/pall in the end? With the seamless robe removed ... the soldier was subliminated ... went underground ... thus the term un-consciousness ... like a man getting screwed up ... evolving? Without the fabric no one saw him going either ... sort of like a persona loch'd in a Done Jinn ... a dark spirit like a Shadow in a desert place ... at times welcome ... like Jean Valjeans curio, Bienvenue? So much can be lost in trans-lation ... across the stone we call mind ... hard to get to!
Do you know anyone that found one? It is a rare case that causes the norm to call em crazy ... like John Nash, Einstein, varies mental processing somas ... the church even incinerated many of em Copernichus ... creating plasma ... an insubstantial light ... Christ did that fly like pig-headed on a stick? One one could create a myth on that ... they did! Weird the things we don't know ... almost like an alien source ... if you're so minded!