Logic seams to end in a paradox with regards to certainty. As one can not rationally believe the validity of answers drawn from susceptible base observation or physiological method. Logically, a truly undeniable answer must be come by infallible means, yes? Otherwise you will be able to rationally doubt.
Knowledge gives a degree of control and certainty is pictured to give feelings of security. But since logic denies the possibility of certainty, then rationally, it is imposable to know you secure, or be certain of control.
Now i don't think that the universe answers to the laws of mathematics, or that things need to seem possible to be so. But if a lasting sense of security, of peace, is unattainable through intellect. Then how is it possible to be attained at all. It feels like picturing peace as something to be gained, is just picturing an idea called peace, and not the true thing.
So i suppose i mean to ask:
Has anyone ever found peace? or does peace have to find you?
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John Wilson
Posted on: 09/24/2010 05:22
Love ain't rational.
Yes I have found, kept, wrapped, and hold on to peace.
I'd tell you how, but I'm coming to the conclusion that you have to be at leat 80 before
you'd find it 'rational'
Birthstone
Posted on: 09/24/2010 06:18
I would ask, does one expect "Rational" to be a permanent, acheived state? I think we have moments of clarity when 'rational/sensible/logical' apply as descriptors. But they are always affected by our emotion as well. And by chaos and freewill and the multitude of factors that are always at play. So yes, I've been peaceful. Sometimes I've even been peaceful when life crashes around me. And when I ought to have been peaceful, I've found logical reason to be anxious.
CW - one thing I can rationally count on is that with each step, choice or move I make(or don't) a bit more light is shed and the situation changes just a bit, so new ideas and opportunity present themselves. I've decided that is a good, comforting thing.
Arminius
Posted on: 09/24/2010 18:56
The opposite of logic is anti-logic. Not illogic; illogic is flawed logic. Anti-logic is the diametric opposite of logic, and thus is perfectly logical.
If logic is analysis, anti-logic is synthesis. If logic separates phenomena into parts, anti-logic or synthesis unites the parts into a whole. If reality is assumed to be in an ultimate state of nonduality or synthesis, then anti-logic is ultimate TRUTH and logic the lesser truth.
Moreover, any analysis of phenomena necessarily has to proceed from a particular viewpoint, known as the "viewpoint of the observer." This viewpoint is arbitralily chosen by the observer. Thus, the small t truth of analysis is an arbitrary and relative creation—relative to the viewpoint of the observer. Only the capital T TRUTH of synthesis is absolutely true.
This TRUTH, however, can only be experienced in the pure, unconceptualized experience. As soon as we conceptualize IT and think and talk about IT, IT is no longer the absolutely TRUE capaital T Truth of synthesis but becomes the relatively true small t truth of analysis.
Intuition is sometimes regarded as the opposite of reason. In Taoism and Zen Buddhism, for instance, one attempts to act spontaneously and intuitively directly from pure expereince of capital T TRUTH without resorting to conceptualization and analysis.
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 09/24/2010 09:51
Logic is the only state of mind that can demonstrate the sense of emote ... moving force that goes on and on like the tiers of an onion (Œnœn, mate of Par's) the words just go on and on in tiers although authorities would like to take hold and stay where they are ... as they would like to rise and fear falling into a state of learning anything at dirt level ...
Then, in the imaginary state of the mind all things are perfectly reciprocated ... check it out! Consider an image on the back of the eye as floating in the mind/brae'n complex ...
The matter of the cosmos and mathematics brings up the matter of imaginary math or Irrational Numbers ... even though many would not believe these to be related to emotions ... consider we would not have electric devices without this mechanism. If we didn't believe in such a matrix system would we have a dialectic brae'n? Das d' phET Laid -E in some myths ...
Would the brain work without a heart to circulate the emotions ... plasma, and old word for Cerius fluid ... f(Ire)? From the other side of the weal/Wahl one has to giggle ... bean th'Eire dunne IT ...
One must iimmerse themselves ... and it is not just physical waters ...
By the rivers of ...
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 09/25/2010 06:32
Intuition is the quick way to respond to a situation ... sometimes good sometimes troublesome ...
Perhaps a blend of two paths is best ... sort of dualism ... or is that deism?
Ain't that th' deuce ment!
Paraphrased: sometimes and arrested thought helps ... go sleep onit ... or count to ten before reacting! Maybe why ten laws were created to pass time ... while waiting for an answer ...
WaterBuoy
Posted on: 09/25/2010 06:43
Jack is the pre emmant Liar according to the old story ... the devil himself using intellect without a scrap of emotions ... nothing to left him in a Levite wind so heis left as Canan. Now if Jack was above us does that put cool thinking in the heavens and well eL 's a below us in understanding? Time for a humbling incident when one is shed (çhaque) of the covenant of the physical being and left alone as a bare sol ... that could be enlightening of the innards ... including the h'art heh ... that deep burning when you realize all the things yah shouda dunne when yah coulda ...
Time for recycle with alll the conscious things stuffed into your subliminal self. Did Jah ever get the feeling you'd bin hear before? Keep diggin' ...