i read ya, i read ya

hopefully, it will be changed...

when i read in science magazines how it doesn't save anything...it's time to change back to 'normal' :3

Hi seeler,

It was dark at 5 as well.

Darker then last Sunday morning at 5 still, I woke up at 5 both 'Sundays and for me and my schedule getting up at 5 is reasonable.

I understand the rationale behind daylight savings time though it doesn't seem to be agriculturally friendly.  I suppose it was never meant to be.

Grace and peace to you.

John

I didn't mind it nearly so much when the switch occured in April (when, by golly, it's SUPPOSED to be...)  But an extra hour of darkness upon a winter morning is pointless, so far as I'm concerned.

Local time should be adjusted to 12 noon when the sun is at it's zenith, and stuck to year-round!

I have never understood the reasoning behind daylight saving time.  No one saves any daylight.  All we get is another hour of morning darkness - I LOVE early morning light and it gets taken away and added to the evening.  That means children want to stay up later than is good for them and preventing 'early to bed' adults from sleeping.  To me it is an exercise in stupidity - any one with any smarts can figure out how many hours of daylight are available at different times of year and organise their life to take advantage of those hours.  (Rant over!) 

I think Saskatchewan has the right idea - no daylight savings time!

I don't like it either.

Beloved, when I was going to high school and school busing was new the school boards in Saskatchewan wanted to stay on daylight saving time year round.  They figured that the kids needed an extra hour of daylight in the evening in order to get home safely before dark.  We have been on daylight saving time year round ever since. If we were to put our clocks ahead now we would be in effect on double daylight saving time.

Well, we don't change time but everyone moves around us. Hahahahahahahaha  one of the reasons given for not having Daylight Saving is that it would confuse the  chickens and they wouldn't know when to lay.

I wish we had Daylight saving. It would be nice to have long evenings

I rank daylight savings time some where around Christmas or my birthday for how welcome and wonderful it is.  I'd prefer to have it all year round, although I do understand why we can't really have kids going to school in the dark.  I wouldn't mind having double daylight savings later in the spring, either, so that we can have even more light in the evening.  

Mists of spring, In the late '50s the question of whether it was better to send kids to school in the dark or come home when darkness was approching.

One prairie mother, worried about blizzards, at spoke up loudly saying that if her kids got lost in the morning it would be daylight when she went out to look for them.

For many people bedtime is much more flexible than when you get up.   We get up by the clock, allowing ourselves just enough time to get ready for work (or school) by the appointed time.  Regardless whether the sun is up, or its light outdoors, or we've had enough sleep, we have to crawl out of bed and begin our day.  I find a bit of light at the window helps my body-clock to prepare me to wake up refreshed when the clock-radio comes on.  In summer I use a blind to keep from waking too early. 

But in the evening - I can go to bed, or fall asleep in the lounge chair, whenever I want.  Having an extra hour of daylight in the evening generally doesn't bother me one way or the other - missing my hour in the morning definitely does. 

I would be happy if we had a 25 hour day more often, without having to compensate for it with a 23 hour day lol.

As for the actual light - in the winter, it's dark in the morning and in the evening.  In the summer the sun comes up way too soon and sets late.  I don't think an hour shift makes a difference that way.

I still don't understand the energy savings, but apparently it works.

I don't have to currently, because I start later so getting up before the crack of dawn isn't a concern nowdays. I don't keep a typical schedule now. When I did, I used to find it really hard on my body to drag myself up and out to work in the dark. I almost felt mildly sick it was such a struggle in the winter. I would feel myself lulling back to sleep again while in transit (public transit). That's when I'd be most likely to miss my stop if not careful.

Soon enough, it will be light early in the morning and in the evening.

I wake with the dawn.  I can't sleep when it is light out!  Grumble!!

There are actually whole countries (e.g. China) that don't bother with it. Of course, China doesn't bother with time zones either. Dalian, Beijing, and Urumqi all run on the same time even though they are as spread out longitude wise as Halifax, Ottawa, and Calgary. Basically sunrise in Dalian is still dark in Urumqi, even though the clock says the same thing in both places.

Mendalla

Actually Mandella - I posted something about that when the WonderCafe first opened.  It seems to me that it would make sense to have the whole world run on the same time.  Do away with the concept of noon and midnight.  Have a 24 hour clock. 

Then lets say you are in London, England.   You have to discuss something with your two branch managers in Canada - one in Haliax, one in western Canada.   You send an email telling them you will call at 18 oclock.  It's late in the day for you - you call your wife and tell her you'll be late getting home.  In Halifax your collegue has just gotten back after lunch.  Out west the branch manager is just getting started on his day.  But it's 18:00 oclock for everyone.     Now suppose you want to do the same thing with time zones.  England, it's 6:00 pm.   Halifax is five hours different - or is it four - and is it on daylight savings time?   Anyway, the bloke should be at his desk at around 1:00 or 2:00 pm.  But what about that guy out west?  Is it 8:00 or 9:00 for him?  Or maybe only 7:00?  

Yes, I imagine in China the factories open hours earlier in the east than they do in the west - but everybody knows what time it is anywhere in China at any given time. 

No one agrees with me.

Today, folks were celebrating the fact that it was daylight at  6:30pm.  I think for some it is important to not finish their day in darkness....after a long day of work.

Shouldn't we call it Standard Time now that we use it for more than half of the year? 

And maybe we could start it even earlier. Maybe February. And finish later. November? Or a little further still... ?

I do think that staying on the same time year round would be better than changing twice a year (although the spring change when we lose an hour seems harder to adjust to then the fall when we gain it back). 

But right now - I don't know what time it is.

I have an internal clock.  As I go about my day, I usually have some idea what time it is, at least to the quarter hour.   When my bird clock cheerps the hour, I don't have to check to see 'Is that 10:00 oclock or 11:00?'

But yesterday and today, I never knew if it was time to begin meal preparation, or stop what I'm doing to watch a favourite TV program.   I just now glanced at my watch to find it is almost 11:30.  I didn't think it was much past 10:00.  

Give me a week or so.   I'll recover.

Interestingly I recently read that during this week, after springing forward, scientists and staticians predict more heart attacks and accidents (including car accidents) due to stress and lack of sleep.

Usually I'm not SO badly affected by the spring change, but I ran a 6K road race on Saturday evening (finished at 9:00).  So I got home on an exercise high needing to recover some calories.

I really should have been going to bed earlier, but ended up staying awake late to calm my adrenaline surges and digest my post-run snack.  I'm still a wreck today. 

I love the extra hour of daylight in the evening. Last night it was 7:30 and still not dark! I was rejoicing! In the morning I'm up early doing my introvert thing (which means doing whatever I darn well please by myself while my wife and daughter are still asleep) and it makes no difference to me if it's dark. I can just turn on a ligt if I have to. I still get up by 5:30 every morning.

ugh -- i usually just feel loggy after these time changes.  this time i'm also feeling a bit sick

Rev Steve, I am with you. i love it.

It really threw me off today.  I'm in a workshop that starts at 1:30, but it's a distance away.  I got involved with a dance class immediately beforehand.  I leave about 45 min beforehand so 11:45 or what felt like 10:45.  That's way too early for lunch until my body adjusts somewhat.

For sure I am getting spring fever. I have heard that this feeling is triggered by extra light in the evening. 

Daylight saving time

 I would like to try and explain daylight saving time to you. In the 1930s someone figured out that we could save a lot of money by turning our clocks a head one hour in the spring and back one hour in the fall. Then money was the concern not energy.

This works on the premise that most people get up at 630 in the morning and go to bed at 1030 at night. Also what one must consider is that on the east side of the time zone it gets light one hour earlier and dark one on our earlier than the west side of the time zone. What I will try to explain it to you from the times based at Edmonton.

In Edmonton the shortest day is in December the sunrises that proximally 8:50 and sets at 4:15, just under 8 hours of daylight. Now as daylight expands it expands equally in the morning and at the night. So by the time March rolls around and we’re near the spring equinox the sun will rise just before 6 in the morning and set just after 6 at night giving us 12 hours of daylight. By June the day will expand to around 17 hours. The sun will rise around 430 in the morning and set at approximately 8:15 at night.

As you can see the sun is up two hours before we are and sets two hours before we go to bed. By setting our clocks ahead we can reduce that to one hour before we get up and one hour before we go to bed. We do not need to use lights in the morning,and we have cut one hour off our evening usage.  You start saving time when you are able to turn your lights off one hour after you get up, thet would be 7:30. At first it is only a few minutes. But then quickly expands to the full hour. The time that this savings is in effect is pretty well from March to September.

As I pointed out before these times may vary, depending on where you live in a time zone.

So if you are prone to turn the lights off one hour on earth day. You should welcome daylight saving time. By switching to it when you save hundreds of hours of electricity a year.

I disagree with DST...and it has been shown that the energy savings don't happen any more with the habits of most people and businesses.  Also, humans (along with most animals) are tuned to the sunrise, not the sunset, so there are health ramifications by changing the clocks, besides a change in sleep habits.