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Lost In Translation

Hi Gang,

 

Was googling my name this morning and found some very entertaining stuff.

 

The biggest howl was my being quoted at General Council 40 in Kelowna and how my two-cents was translated by others.

 

The National Post quoted only about 1 of those two cents and rendered it as follows:

 

National Post wrote:

“We talk about social justice,” said John Maich, a United Church minister from Brantford, Ont. “We also talk about balance. When we are no longer balanced, justice becomes vengeance. The background language in [the] proposals is not language of justice. It is language of vengeance.”

 

A blog called Egypt Air does something interesting:

 

Egypt Air wrote:

“We talk with detail to syphilitic the guard,” said John Maich, a United Church evangelist from Brantford, Ont. They called the proposals exclusionary, oversimplified. “We also talk with detail to recompense. When we are no longer balanced, the guard becomes vehemently.  It is language of vehemently.

 

Syphilitic the guard?

 

Shouldn't that be "the syphilitic guard?"

 

At any rate I am pretty sure that I never mentioned nor thought of anything being syphilitic while at General Council.

 

Nor do I think that it explains some of the insanity in the commissions.

 

At any rate it shows what can happen when one googles themselves in the privacy of their own home.

 

Grace and peace to you.

John

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yikes!!  And what do you know of syphilis, dear John?  Gotta wonder how Egyptians reading it translate what they are hearing...  gobbledygook?  (I wonder how that word translates.)

 

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yes, so true. when we no longer recompense the guard goes vehemently. I see it many times. It is always a syphilitic experience, especially for an evangelist who only has two cents.

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Hi Rev John, 

 

Nice to see you posting again. 

 

Now, I am off to the dictionary . . . 

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RevJohn wrote:
......John Maich, a United Church evangelist.....

 

I did not know that you are an evangelist!!!  This puts you on par with Billy Graham.   You need to now dye your beard grey and let it grow long and start speaking in King James english then you can have a weekly tv show and collect money.....become a millionaire. 

 

 

......now googling the syphilitic word,,,,  these people who use such high fallutin' words....

 

....okay looked up the words and the quotes still don't make a lot of sense...if you want to make it as an evangelist you need to use a simpler vocabulary....

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Hi Serena,

 

Serena wrote:

I did not know that you are an evangelist!!!

 

Well, not to be overly literalistic about it but one who shares the good news is an evangelist.

 

I am not an "E" evangelist.

 

Serena wrote:

This puts you on par with Billy Graham.   You need to now dye your beard grey and let it grow long and start speaking in King James english then you can have a weekly tv show and collect money.....become a millionaire. 

 

No thanks.

 

Serena wrote:

....okay looked up the words and the quotes still don't make a lot of sense...if you want to make it as an evangelist you need to use a simpler vocabulary....

 

Another adventure in missing the point.

 

Grace and peace to you.

John

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Or it shows what happens when you use one of those on-line translators...

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RevJohn wrote:
Another adventure in missing the point. 

 

It was you who missed my point again.   I was making fun of your quotes and the fact that the newspaper called you an evangelist since you are really the farthest away from Billy Graham that I can imagine even though you have the beard.  I don't think Billy has a beard but most evangelists do because it makes them look like Moses.  My point was in light of your newfound "career" that you should not use such confusing terminology.  Most pastors/evangelists have not even made it through high school so in order to blend in and be understood by your audience you should not talk about such complicated things.  I know that the paper either took your quote out of context or misquoted you so it really looks like you either don't know what you are talking about or whatever you are talking about is so high in the clouds a person needs a doctorate degree in theology to understand you.  Then again if you were an Evangelist we would not actually need to know what you were saying we would just come up for the altar call at the end of your sermon with the big words.   God would be speaking to us while you were talking anyway so no ned to actually listen, 

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So I read this.  It was funny.  I am left wondering why someone would post their real first name and real last name on an Internet chat line?

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Many people would and do post their real names.  ANd many people don't.

 

If anyone wants to know who I am it would take maybe 5 minutes of searching. The key is to know what else you put out there.  THe key is to be real and honest, not to hide my identity (such attempts are largely futile anyway).  At least that'show I see it, YMMV

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Serena wrote:
Then again if you were an Evangelist we would not actually need to know what you were saying we would just come up for the altar call at the end of your sermon with the big words.   God would be speaking to us while you were talking anyway so no ned to actually listen, 

 

What a good point!

 

And LOL John, I do hope you speak more clearly than that!

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She_Devil wrote:

So I read this.  It was funny.  I am left wondering why someone would post their real first name and real last name on an Internet chat line?

 

because they are honest and confident enough not to need some anonymous moniker to hide behind while they shoot out crap and bs.

 

it happens sometimes.  its wonderful to see people like that around.

 

 

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Now take this newfound knowledge of translational errancy and apply it to your holy texts!

 

As-salaamu alaikum

-Omni

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