I seemed to adapt to them.

About 8 months ago, I noticed that I had become an anxious passenger.  I was terrible to drive with.

About 6 months ago, I noticed that I had some double vision.  I didn't get around to checking it out, seeing a doctor, etc.  It got worse.   

I also noticed that I could not reverse into a parking lot appropriately.  I was always crooked. Figured it was the new car.

Anyhow -- drum roll......it was my progressive lens glasses.

They were bent.  My vision was off.  As my eyes adapted throughout the day they could not adapt back.  It became progressively worse, in part, they were bent more, but, also it was my eyes attempting to adapt.

Secondly, I have found out that progressive lens have a smaller vision area than driving glasses with a good lens.  The edges are blurry.  

This combines to cause peripheral vision to be sloppy.

anyhow, thought I would share that tidbit.

I am now seeking out solid driving glasses for distance only.  my progressives will be used rarely.

Bold is mine in the quote - made me chuckle pinga :-)    Interesting discovery on your part - about them being slightly bent.   Did it make you nauseous at all? 

I'm not into those yet - just using readers still (which I have stashed everywhere!), but I do notice a slight diminishment of my distance vision - so I know it will be coming my way eventually!   I use older readers, a less strong magnification, for computer work.   I think my husband's glasses are progressive lenses now - he wears them constantly, so they usually stay in pretty good shape I think.  I will have to mention this to him!

I am not sure if I was nauseous, but, at the end of the day when driving home, I would take off my glasses and still see double.  What I didn't realize was that my eyes had adapted through the day / week, and so....even without the glasses i was seeing double.

so, yes, tell him to take care of them.  I am hard on glasses and had I known that they needed to be pristine I would never had got them.

How did I figure it out?  I left my glasses at work over the weekend and didn't bother picking them up, so was wearing a different pair for reading, and nothing for distance.  Lo& behold, my double vision went away.

ps...glad I made you chuckle.

lol , pinga, when I saw "progressive lens"  in the recently active, I was in religion and faith mode. Not the progressive lens I had in mind.

I don't have progressives.  I just have driving/television/distance glasses and reading glasses (which I don't use very often unless the print in a book is really small or reading a label on something that has really tiny printing.)

This does mean switching pairs depending on what I am doing.  Or taking off my distance glasses if I am watching tv and want to read something.  But I prefer to do that.

Double vision - that's scary stuff, pinga . . . glad you were able to solve it.

Beloved, that is where i will be going....driving glasses.

OK I have graduated lenses-ie progressives.

I did not like my 1st pair-they were difficult for both reading and driving. I had also got magnetic sun clip ons for them. Problem may have been the quaklity-they came from Costco.

This pair has 3 focal distances-far away, computer distance and reading. I either wear them or carry them in my purse. They are in the Costco frames but from a different lab.

I keep a cheap pair-(cheap frames) of my prescription reading glasses on my night-table and use daily for reading in bed.

I keep prescription sun glasses in the car and use for drivng (and also skiing/paddling/biking).

I have an eye exam booked and think I will get a "free" pair of reading glasses from Clearly Contact over the internet.

I'll get my graduated lenses here so they can be exactly fitted.

I find safety glasses enough of a hassle.  I probably could use glasses, I've just been very bad about getting my eyes checked.  I have more important health issues to deal with and my eyesight doesn't really affect my day to day life.  The biggest issue I have is recognizing people from a distance.

At least I don't think I need progressives yet!

Tabitha, I have been told that quality of lens makes a big difference.

anyhow....i am not dishing out medical advice or anything, but, it dawned on me, that I gain general knowledge just from being part of a church community......and so, thought i would share that here too.

I've been short-sighted for my entire life and have worn glasses since I was 7. I cannot remember what it was like to not need glasses to see properly. Every time I get a new prescription, it gets a little stronger. I have wondered what it will be like for me when I hit that point in my life when I'll need progressives. My hope is that I will be able to use the same pair of glasses for driving as I do for reading and for doing everything else in my life - partially because having one pair would be cheaper and partially because it I only have one pair, I'll never lose it (the only time I take them off is when I am going to bed).

A subject very much in my thoughts these days. I had cataract surgery last year, and since then I have been driven nuts by the whole process of needing glasses for reading, but having good distance vision. I used to be nearsighted and would read without my glasses with the book about 6 inches from my face! I was used to it though and I liked just being able to remove my glasses and settle with a book. 

I now have "progressives" and the only reason I wear them is so I don't have to keep donning and doffing reading glasses.  The lenses of my glasses are quite small in size so they don't work for lengthy reading and I resort to magnifiers to actually read a book.

My guilty secret is that despite the miracle of cataract surgery and having wondrous clean perfect distance vision, I really miss just being able to read without glasses. Not the same at all. I should be grateful I can drive without glasses now but it's been a hard adjustment. 

ninjafaery, did you have cataract surgery in boths eyes?

Another story about glasses - specific readings glasses.  My vision is not that bad - even for distance I am not at the point of needing glasses for driving legally . . . I wear them because I can see better though. As for my reading glasses - again, vision not that bad.  When I was buying the ones from Walmart/drugstores, etc I had to buy the lowest strength ones.  When I went for my last appointment my eye doctor talked about reading glasses.  I told her I just used the cheapie overthecounter ones.  She told me my close-up vision was different in both eyes and that the overthecouner ones had the same prescription in each lens, and that I would be better off re: eye strain, with specifically made prescription ones that matched the vision of my eyes.  She was not pushing me to buy glasses as she made it clear it was my choice.  I did buy them though and it made a difference for me when I need them for reading.

Funny thing. I opened this thread because I thought it was a theological tidbit of the Progressive Christianity nature.

Ha ha.

hah!

Ninja was mentioning cataract surgery - here's an issue of relevance to men - not many men on this thread so far!  A friend was telling me recently that men using Flomax medication (often prescribed for men when prostate is somewhat enlarged) can have a cataract surgery complication called 'floppy iris syndrome' - I had never heard of it.  He unfortunately had some serious complications during his surgery.  AT last - something we women don't have to deal with - at least not directly!

Hi Pinga,

Adult onset double vision is a big red flag.  Luckily yours was caused by misaligned lenses, but often it is the sign of untreated high blood pressure, diabetes and stroke.  I would urge anyone with these symptoms to be checked out by their eye care provider as soon as possible.  same goes for sudden loss of peripheral vision.

As for progressive lenses:  the optical designs vary considerably among manufacturers and better lens designs (which tend to be a bit more costly) have fewer distortions and wider reading areas.  The optical quality is better.  As a general rule the portion of your vision above the horizontal midline has the distance prescription and is quite clear, and below that horizonal midline, there is a corridor for intermediate and reading distances, going downward.  To the inside and outside of this corridor is a  portion in the lens through which the vision is not as clear and somewhat distorted.  That is why you have to hold your reading material directly in front of you when reading.  For most people the brain gets used to the distorted areas and learns to ignore them (adaptation) and it usually takes about a month.  These are complicated lenses to make and fit and should not be bought online for best optical results.  

Over the counter reading glasses will not harm you, but you will have the best vision possible if your exact prescription is placed in front of you in a frame that is properly fitted and the lenses opticall centered to where your eyes are.    ( I won't bore you any more with the optics of it.) 

Hi Carolla, 

My understanding with Flomax is that it makes the crystalline lens harder and more difficult to break apart and removed during cataract surgery, leading to lost framents and an increased risk of retinal detachment.  Surgeons generally have the patients stop taking the mediction several weeks before surgery. 

Feels like a PSA,  sorry.

Yes Beloved -- I had both eyes done with a few weeks of each other. And it was almost two years ago I had them done (not last year).

I find it much more disturbing that two years have gone by so fast........

Thanks BayLacey.  I am guessing I should go check it out to be safe, then, but, it is much better since i quit wearing the glasses.  The glasses did get fitted exactly as you mentioned when I first got them and they were fine at first, but they really are bent, even after they straightened them..my own fault.

Pinga,

I switched to progressives this fall. I do not "need" them yet (I can still read but it is getting there) but they said I should get used to it - especially since in the future reading in public AND trying to maintain eye contact, one cannot be putting on and removing glasses.

I adjusted quickly and no problems, or so I thought. As a migraine sufferer when the headaches increased I started the headache journal, months without the regular triggers... not food... not hormones.... then we realized  "worked on paper" and "typed ___"...

We tried readjusting and readjusting.... there were digital fittings and even new frames and lenses to get a larger lens area....

The answer for me was to swap for the old person look of a lined bifocal. (knock on wood the headaches seem to have returned to a more normal pattern)

Yup, I'm beginning to think the "you'll get used to it" is "you'll get used to ......having a less functioning life"

Hi Pinga,

I will be the first to admit that I do not love my progressives. I have tried a number of different lens designs, none of which allows me to see the way that I did when I was twenty five. But thing is, I have not been twenty five for a really long time! With my progressive I can see well in the distance, close up, and in between, and I will be darned if I am going to have lines on my glasses (that would be vanity talking now)

SG i am glad your straight top lenses have eased your headache situation, some people really just cannot wear progressives, but it is a small percentage.

It took me months to really adapt to mine but I was determined that would and I have. Glasses on and off, or worse yet, two pairs, is even
more of a nuisance.....at least for me. I need multitasking eyesight.

Fair enough Baylacey. 

Guess my primary frustration is that I am known, almost infamous, at my optomotrist for damaging my frames.   Given that progressive lens need to have fairly precise fitting requirements, and my rep for damaging frames, I am surprised they were recommended.

When I saw the title of this thread, I looked under politics.......Social Workers speak of a progressive lens, among other things, in that department......then I did check the R&F area......

I have been thinking of getting some progressives for work. I am facilitating a group right now, and find myself taking my glasses off and on. I'm thinking a pair for work would be good, since I need some dignity when interacting with clients. I have an appointment to get my eyes checked in a couple of weeks.

I'm guessing what you call "progressives', we call "multi- focals".

I've had a pair for over a year now - and the only time I put them on is at the movies -when I think an actor warrants a close-up!

I originally got them because I didn't think I'd pass my car vision test without them - but just scraped through.

Put it down to vanity - but as I age I don't wish to get better acquainted with my wrinkles.

It does present problems -every handbag now has it's own pair of cheap chemist glasses -for reading menus etc.........

When I read I like to get lost in the article/story -and I found that making a conscious effort to read from the bottom of the lens interfered with the flow.

Maybe one day I'll persist - but at the moment I'm content to see the world softened in a mist -like glow.

Reality at times can be so harsh...

Any more double vision, Pinga?

LOL Pilgrims Progress . . . and what actors would that be . . . (that require close-ups)?

Surely Pilgrims puts them on when the roofer is around, too.

No way!

By now, I can read the roofer like a book - and what I have in mind for him, doesn't require glasses - or even vision for that matter........

OK, so who is this roofer anyway?  I have heard mention of him once or twice already....

Ah, the roofer. I'd like to see how Pilgrim and Crazy explain this!

"Lucy, you got some 'splaining to do." 

(Ricky Ricardo on the I Love Lucy show)

Lacey,

Who is the roofer???

He's the answer to a senior's fantasy -  and was first sighted by Crazyheart when on one sunny Saskatchewan morning she just "happened" to look out the window and saw him (predictably) on a roof.

One of them was almost naked, I'm not sure now if it was the roofer or crazyheart?

Enough to say that that morning Crazyheart lost all the crops she's managed to grow on FarmTown - got so flustered she started a thread on "The Twelve Apostles",and inadvertently placed it in Relationships - and last, but not least,  Crazydad missed out on breakfast.........

As for me, I'm not normally the jealous type, but after numerous sightings by Crazyheart, I must confess I was overcome by the green monster....

In no time at all an International Rivalry broke out - as I endeavoured to entice him (and his tools) in a little reconstruction project of my own..........

No doubt you've heard of the rivalry between Tim Horton's and Robin's Donuts?

That was childsplay compared to our tussle over the roofer for his ,er, affections...

He's racked up so many frequent flyer points winging his way between Canada and Oz, that he's now eligible for his own private plane, own airport in both countries, and John Travolta is now his personal pilot.......

p.s. Forget those dating sites - all men are liars - so doesn't it make more sense to invent the lies that suit you most?????

And others around here, um, enjoy the roofer vicariously through Crazyheart and Pilgrims' little stories.

Yes, the roofer has been quite the entertainment around here. Thanks Pilgrim for that fabulous summary. I can't wait to hear CH's side.  Was the roofer part of the cross-Canada bus trip that happened a couple of years ago?

I must say, I think the dizziness from watching the roofer bounce from Oz to Canada and back......or I suppose it is Canada to Oz and back......so confusing. At any rate, the dizziness is settling down. Has the roofer been around lately?

I got my first bifocals in my early 50s; got progressives for my next pair, but found the reading area too small; and my current pair are bifocals -- provide something for students to ask questions and opens a door to talking about the importance of exercising our eyes by deliberately switching from close-up to far away seeing frequently to slow down the loss of flexibility by the lens.

Hi Pilgrim, 

Thank you for your summary of the roofer.  

I did a little search here...typed in "the roofer."  There were 17 pages of references made to the roofer, and it went on for years.........in fact, I could only go back as far as summer 2009 and I still did not get to the starting place in the story!  

A while back I landed on a photo of him too (handsome fellow with no shirt - broad shoulders, six pack, chiseled jaw, nice smile, ...... built like the statue of David.........) It appears that he has had many women, or perhaps I should say many women have had him?

Where is he now?  Do you think he is still single?

Baylacey,

If you are looking for the roofer, look for PilgrimsProgress of Crazyheart.... they keep him close.

I think the roofer will stay single... he gets far too much for free to do any buying... Crazydad also stands in the way of "settling  down".

I am thinking that between PilgrimsProgress and Crazyheart that they keep him far too exhausted for another woman. But, you never know, you could slip him a little blue pill....

The roofer looked pretty young in the photo that I saw.........I would not expect a fine specimen such as that would need any help at all.......but, alas, if he's in Australia.....

Seems to me there was some controversy about that photo ...

Some people observed that we would not be amused by a similar photo of an attractive woman being posted as a joke here on wondercafe.

Can't remember how that particular argument was resolved.

 But I do remember the photo of the "Roofer".

I think it was resolved by the original roofer thread being deleted.  Could be wrong though.

Really???

Was the original thread the one where Crazyheart told us about looking out her window and seeing the Roofer for the first time?

This reminds me ...

Does anyone remember the Wondie awards? They got quite controversial at one time. People were afraid others' feelings would be hurt it they were not nominated for one of the awards.

I remember someone posted something along the lines of "So you are worried that someone's feelings will be hurt if they are not nominated for a non-existent award?"

Another of our finest hours here on the WC.

That was me that had an issue of the objectification of the young male body...what can I say..it's one of those moments where we who appear to be a clique have had serious disagreements

Yes, I can see why the photo might be considered offensive.  I will admit that I have found the bits I know about the roofer to be funny. I will also admit that I would be less amused by a similar conversation being had by the men.  (Isn't that interesting? a double standard for sure. Shame on me.) 

I don't recall seeing "headlines" about the Wondie awards, but there were some topics that were discussed in those 17 pages that I scanned that seemed pretty interesting.  And I only looked at the ones that had the word roofer in them. 

Baylacey,

That was at the heart of the image discussion. Would it be considered as comical or as just innocent fun if two men talked about taking turns with some beauty? Would it be objectification and demeaning? It was quite the conversation.

One of many we have undertaken...

We, here at Wondercafe, play in the shallow end and also dive in deep waters.

I really like that . . . can you be quoted . . . when it comes in handy I'll print the quote and beside it just write "SG".

Geez, I dunno, not more competition for the roofer's affections.........

Luckily, there are a few roofers going around.

Lacey, I'm thinking that you're a clever possum, so here's your intellectual,serious roofer.

Here is Crazyheart's roofer -

And here's my roofer (be quick, before Pinga flags him offensive).

Pinga,

Somehow I don't remember it as a serious disagreement. There were some different points of view which made for a thought-provoking conversation.

I do recall some heated discussion about the existence vs non-existence of an inner circle or clique on WC.

Very witty post, Pilgrims ... p3