I don't think I have ever cross posted in WC yet but there is always a first.  I posted a link about demonstrations that will be occuring this Saturday throughout the US and in some Canadian cities in Social, for anyone who is interested take a look....

http://www.wondercafe.ca/discussion/social/join-impact-sat-nov-15-2008#new

Thank you for the links. 

Ummm, aren't there real issues these groups could have donated to?  People are starving to death in the streets of these people's own States, and they care about where one penis is relative to another?  How many mammary glands are in one bed?  It is a sad world we live in.  Look at those numbers.  $300,000 is the lowest.  How many soup kitchens could $300,000 support I wonder?  If Jesus sees this, he is going to be pissed. 

By the way, is it just me who gets sick reading the names of these whack-job organizations? 

Focus on the Family

Concerned Women for America

National Organization for Marriage.

My favorite is the last one.  Don't seem very pro-mariage to me at all.

i'm with you, frommian... they think more about gay sex than marriage.

They think more about gay sex than they think about children too.  WIth the US economy in so much trouble, they are worrying more about taking the right to marry away from gays than about the economy.

 My least favourite name - Knights of Columbus.

Most people hate the knights part, because it sounds pretentious.  I myself love knights.  But when you stick it with Columbus, it just sounds stupid.

I assume by Columbus they refer to Christopher Columbus.  He was a jerk and totally overrated. He doesn't deserve to share an organization title with knights, who are awesome, aside from the stupid modern 'knighthood' which is just a useless title usually given to random rich people as a bragging right (no code of chivalry or shiz!) except when Salman Rushdie and a few other awesome people got it.

Either way - I can't believe they pulled off prop hate in California.

So much for the 'smug' blue state.

When you think about it, it sure seems like they spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.  I imagine they can't get it out of their heads.  All that hot, sweaty gay action seems to really get to them.  Perhaps in more ways than one.  Perhaps they have a reason they want to be reminded about it as little as possible.  Hmmm...  Are the Knights an all male group by chance?  I'm pretty sure the "Women for America" one or whatever it was is an all woman group. 

Yes, the Knights of Columbus are a men's group.  It is a Catholic fraternal organization; a sort of Catholic Masons except that it is only about 100 years old.  

K of C halls are used as social gathering places and many of them have full liquor bars.  I used to go to union meetings at a K of C hall; the drinks were cheap and stong.

The K of C is an American blight which has spread to several other countries.  

So a bunch of men (men only) who get together with each other for cheap drinks.  Completely away from women?  Oh I'm sure the heirs of Columbus are discovering all kinds of things.  No wonder the blatant homophobia. 

If someone donated 340,000.00 to me I would be able to buy a house in my Vancouver Island town and I wouldn't have to hate paying rent. 

Wow - millions of dollars trying to impose their values on the rest of the population.  I find it frightening, actually.

It's their money, let them spend it however they want to; if they're not doing anything illegal, so be it. If you want there to be freedom of speech, it has to work both ways. You have to allow those who's views oppose your own to speak up just as much as you let those who agree with you.

Jubilee, no one's suggesting their right to free speech be taken away.  The point is, are there not better causes to spend money on than suppressing human rights?

I wouldn't even add "than supressing human rights" as that's a bit of a loaded term.  But, logically speaking, even if you believe gay marriage is a sin, is it a bigger sin than keeping millions of dollars from the poor?  Is Christ's blood so weak semen and mammary glands are stronger?  If that's not the case, then doesn't that free us up to overcome larger issues.

absolutly brilliant.  can i use that statement sometime??  i promise i will give you credit for it...

Funny how we seem to agree so much outside that other thread. :)  Use away. 

LOL!!   it just goes to show the level of respect that we have for each other, imho. 

The businesses that gave money in support of prop H8 were within their rights to do so.    It is within my rights to not do business with these businesses and to point out the hatefulness of these businesses and their employees.

I have sent email to many of the businesses that are on this list expressing my dismay that they or their employees have donated money to such a hateful cause.

Well... I have to admit... even as one who believes that homosexual behavior is a sin, I would much rather see the money go to help the poor.

Ah, if only it was my money to spend.

Yes, you can certainly choose to respond in that way. I would caution you about speaking out against the employees. Some of them were probably against the legislation. Most were probably just working to put bread on the table to feed their families.

Exactly.  Feel however you want to feel about the issue, just don't waste time on it until much, much, much more important matters are settled.  I think there're a bad case of log-in-eye going around.