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Discuss video: Describe God

I am going to present a couple of video's over the next week.

 

I hope you will tell me if you like them, if they would enhance your worship, if you find them good or not, etc.

 

Critique is what we like to do...and of course, it is wide open.

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www.easyworship.com/minimovies/detail/product/13355/

 If someone can imbed it, go for it!

 

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I find myself wondering why they think people would pay for that one....

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I don't see embedment code, but I'd like to provide my interpretation of the video:

 

View of space, with stars.

 

Word

 

Word

 

Word

WORD

 

MORE WORDS

 

Pan down to a view of the Earth from space.

 

WORD

WORD

BIG WORD

WORD

 

Huge explosion over the North Pole wipes out all life on Earth.

 

GOD

 

The end.

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I agree with GordW that I would not buy it. The audio is pretty good, and it is devoid of lies which would be a turnoff to some. The God explosion is a bit anticlimactic. What does the slowly travelling star represent?
 
Chansen is right too. Words describing God are meaningless to the biblically illiterate.
 
 
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I'm biblically literate enough to know that there are biblical examples that contradict some of the descriptors that fly through space in that video.

 

As for the video itself, I half expected to see Miss Piggy flying into view with her Pigs In Space crewmates.  Why does your all-powerful god need a PR firm, and why can't he afford a better one?

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Chansen:  this video was for use in a service or workshop.  i can see it precluded by folks being asked to reflect on God, (words they would use), then lead into this video (people could write down words they love / hate / don't care), then a dialogue.

 

Gord:  with some of the software packages you get $xxx mediate dollars to spend. Given that it is choice on what you use.

 

Having said that, I am not sure that I would pay $12 for it....but I think i would pay something for it.  Would save me time...rather than finding words/images.

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removed to different thread.

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Pinga wrote:
Chansen:  this video was for use in a service or workshop.  i can see it precluded by folks being asked to reflect on God, (words they would use), then lead into this video (people could write down words they love / hate / don't care), then a dialogue.

 

With the sole exception of "JEALOUS", it certainly seems to focus on the positive attributes typically associated with God.  I don't agree with the character portrayal, but the massive explosion at the end was a nice touch.  Gave it a real 2012 feeling.

 

 

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lol, glad you have a sense of humour. 

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I LOVE the idea of using video in worship.   But it doesn't take much doing to make your own, really.   I did the same kind of thing for a prayer once....just faded different names for God onto the screen, and then faded them out, with music,   using Powerpoint.  It didn't take that long.   No explosions, but same idea.    And if I can figure out how to do it, seriously - anybody can.

 

I thought their prices were pretty cheap - but it's all a matter of resources, isn't it?

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Pinga wrote:

lol, glad you have a sense of humour. 

 

With religion, I have to.  It's too bloody depressing if you don't approach it with a sense of humour.

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Turned it off when I got to all powerful - bad theology in nice form

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Yes, I didn't like some of the word choices either.It would be a challenge for me but I like Diana's idea.

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right, pan....i find that too....

My sense is that if it had other words, I would enjoy it more.

 

the drag is I can't find stuff which has a good mix of diverse words....very frustrating.

 

yet, i also recognize the time it takes to make something visually appealing, and honestly, a good solid presentation with music built in and theologically sound,would be a treat.

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Pan...could it be used to say " write down all the words you don't agree with as a descriptor for God"....(some of us might be writing down words very frequently, others less so.), then go into a dialogue on how you would describe God.

 

I think the difference in the approaches is the one presumes it is a "right" video, and the other presumes it is a conversation starting point.

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Pinga - I really don't see this as a worship resource as much as a study / discussion starter.  I can imagine it flashing on a screen and then the group talking about their images of God - positive or negative.

 

Chansen:  you say that you only saw one negative word "jealous".  I saw several, as well as contradictory ones.

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seeler wrote:

Pinga - I really don't see this as a worship resource as much as a study / discussion starter.  I can imagine it flashing on a screen and then the group talking about their images of God - positive or negative.

 

Chansen:  you say that you only saw one negative word "jealous".  I saw several, as well as contradictory ones.

Strange, I see it as equally useless in a discussion group.  I have done the same exercise with no props, just pen and paper for each participant.  I think it worked better that way.

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seeler wrote:
Chansen:  you say that you only saw one negative word "jealous".  I saw several, as well as contradictory ones.

 

I'm probably guilty of skimming through them.  "JEALOUS" stood out.  I thought "MAJESTIC" was funny.  The rest is a blur of words I've heard used to describe God before, though you may disagree with many of them, and I probably disagree with more.

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Videos provide an alternative access point to worship for people.    Not everybody has the literacy to sit down with a pen and paper and write out names for god.   Providing visuals allows a message to reach more people in a way that works for them.

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chansen wrote:
Why does your all-powerful god need a PR firm, and why can't he afford a better one?

 

He doesn't need a PR firm. God gives and strengthens faith through His Word.

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Pinga wrote:

Pan...could it be used to say " write down all the words you don't agree with as a descriptor for God"....(some of us might be writing down words very frequently, others less so.), then go into a dialogue on how you would describe God.

 

I think the difference in the approaches is the one presumes it is a "right" video, and the other presumes it is a conversation starting point.

 

That would be a good process in a study group - love it - check On Mystery by Catherine Keller to find better words.

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God=The creative power of the universe.

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In some ways I find it demeaning to Divinity.  It is an attempt to describe the indescribable.  It is an attmpt to bring the Divine to a human level.

 

Shalom

Mate

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To me, it kind of ties in that idea of describing the indescrible by using our projections.  Where do I start?  These descriptors could have been used for the ancient Greek pantheon.

God as Cosmic Parent and Bellhop doesn't factor into my theology either.

 

Yes, as Mate said, it demeans -- limits Divinity.  We make God small by using these words. 

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But we doseem to do a damned good job of making Divinity in our own image.

 

Shalom

Mate

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Mate - I always thought the point of the exercise was to drive home that no matter how many names for God we speak, write or see, that God can't be captured in any of them, or any combination of them.    It's funny how different things strike different people!

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It just goes to show, that when we present to a group, there will be many different experiences.

 

What is wonderful for one, might be yucky for another

 

That by doing some "testing of the waters" of a diverse few, one can better tailor for a larger audience.

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sorry, duplicate post.

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