I am going to present a couple of video's over the next week.
I hope you will tell me if you like them, if they would enhance your worship, if you find them good or not, etc.
Critique is what we like to do...and of course, it is wide open.
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Pinga
Posted on: 12/07/2009 10:31
www.easyworship.com/minimovies/detail/product/13355/
If someone can imbed it, go for it!
GordW
Posted on: 12/07/2009 12:07
I find myself wondering why they think people would pay for that one....
chansen
Posted on: 12/07/2009 12:40
I don't see embedment code, but I'd like to provide my interpretation of the video:
View of space, with stars.
Word
Word
Word
WORD
MORE WORDS
Pan down to a view of the Earth from space.
WORD
WORD
BIG WORD
WORD
Huge explosion over the North Pole wipes out all life on Earth.
GOD
The end.
Saul_now_Paul
Posted on: 12/07/2009 13:04
chansen
Posted on: 12/07/2009 13:33
I'm biblically literate enough to know that there are biblical examples that contradict some of the descriptors that fly through space in that video.
As for the video itself, I half expected to see Miss Piggy flying into view with her Pigs In Space crewmates. Why does your all-powerful god need a PR firm, and why can't he afford a better one?
Pinga
Posted on: 12/07/2009 13:50
Chansen: this video was for use in a service or workshop. i can see it precluded by folks being asked to reflect on God, (words they would use), then lead into this video (people could write down words they love / hate / don't care), then a dialogue.
Gord: with some of the software packages you get $xxx mediate dollars to spend. Given that it is choice on what you use.
Having said that, I am not sure that I would pay $12 for it....but I think i would pay something for it. Would save me time...rather than finding words/images.
Pinga
Posted on: 12/07/2009 13:54
removed to different thread.
chansen
Posted on: 12/07/2009 14:06
With the sole exception of "JEALOUS", it certainly seems to focus on the positive attributes typically associated with God. I don't agree with the character portrayal, but the massive explosion at the end was a nice touch. Gave it a real 2012 feeling.
Pinga
Posted on: 12/07/2009 14:31
lol, glad you have a sense of humour.
Diana
Posted on: 12/07/2009 15:17
I LOVE the idea of using video in worship. But it doesn't take much doing to make your own, really. I did the same kind of thing for a prayer once....just faded different names for God onto the screen, and then faded them out, with music, using Powerpoint. It didn't take that long. No explosions, but same idea. And if I can figure out how to do it, seriously - anybody can.
I thought their prices were pretty cheap - but it's all a matter of resources, isn't it?
chansen
Posted on: 12/07/2009 15:44
lol, glad you have a sense of humour.
With religion, I have to. It's too bloody depressing if you don't approach it with a sense of humour.
Panentheism
Posted on: 12/07/2009 15:57
Turned it off when I got to all powerful - bad theology in nice form
crazyheart
Posted on: 12/07/2009 16:12
Yes, I didn't like some of the word choices either.It would be a challenge for me but I like Diana's idea.
Pinga
Posted on: 12/07/2009 16:15
right, pan....i find that too....
My sense is that if it had other words, I would enjoy it more.
the drag is I can't find stuff which has a good mix of diverse words....very frustrating.
yet, i also recognize the time it takes to make something visually appealing, and honestly, a good solid presentation with music built in and theologically sound,would be a treat.
Pinga
Posted on: 12/07/2009 16:17
Pan...could it be used to say " write down all the words you don't agree with as a descriptor for God"....(some of us might be writing down words very frequently, others less so.), then go into a dialogue on how you would describe God.
I think the difference in the approaches is the one presumes it is a "right" video, and the other presumes it is a conversation starting point.
seeler
Posted on: 12/07/2009 17:25
Pinga - I really don't see this as a worship resource as much as a study / discussion starter. I can imagine it flashing on a screen and then the group talking about their images of God - positive or negative.
Chansen: you say that you only saw one negative word "jealous". I saw several, as well as contradictory ones.
GordW
Posted on: 12/07/2009 17:29
Pinga - I really don't see this as a worship resource as much as a study / discussion starter. I can imagine it flashing on a screen and then the group talking about their images of God - positive or negative.
Chansen: you say that you only saw one negative word "jealous". I saw several, as well as contradictory ones.
Strange, I see it as equally useless in a discussion group. I have done the same exercise with no props, just pen and paper for each participant. I think it worked better that way.
chansen
Posted on: 12/07/2009 17:35
I'm probably guilty of skimming through them. "JEALOUS" stood out. I thought "MAJESTIC" was funny. The rest is a blur of words I've heard used to describe God before, though you may disagree with many of them, and I probably disagree with more.
Diana
Posted on: 12/07/2009 18:28
Videos provide an alternative access point to worship for people. Not everybody has the literacy to sit down with a pen and paper and write out names for god. Providing visuals allows a message to reach more people in a way that works for them.
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 12/07/2009 21:15
He doesn't need a PR firm. God gives and strengthens faith through His Word.
Panentheism
Posted on: 12/08/2009 10:40
Pan...could it be used to say " write down all the words you don't agree with as a descriptor for God"....(some of us might be writing down words very frequently, others less so.), then go into a dialogue on how you would describe God.
I think the difference in the approaches is the one presumes it is a "right" video, and the other presumes it is a conversation starting point.
That would be a good process in a study group - love it - check On Mystery by Catherine Keller to find better words.
Arminius
Posted on: 12/08/2009 13:48
God=The creative power of the universe.
Mate
Posted on: 12/08/2009 15:33
In some ways I find it demeaning to Divinity. It is an attempt to describe the indescribable. It is an attmpt to bring the Divine to a human level.
Shalom
Mate
ninjafaery
Posted on: 12/08/2009 15:58
To me, it kind of ties in that idea of describing the indescrible by using our projections. Where do I start? These descriptors could have been used for the ancient Greek pantheon.
God as Cosmic Parent and Bellhop doesn't factor into my theology either.
Yes, as Mate said, it demeans -- limits Divinity. We make God small by using these words.
Mate
Posted on: 12/08/2009 16:30
ninja
But we doseem to do a damned good job of making Divinity in our own image.
Shalom
Mate
Diana
Posted on: 12/08/2009 20:43
Mate - I always thought the point of the exercise was to drive home that no matter how many names for God we speak, write or see, that God can't be captured in any of them, or any combination of them. It's funny how different things strike different people!
Pinga
Posted on: 12/08/2009 22:44
It just goes to show, that when we present to a group, there will be many different experiences.
What is wonderful for one, might be yucky for another
That by doing some "testing of the waters" of a diverse few, one can better tailor for a larger audience.
Pinga
Posted on: 12/08/2009 22:50
sorry, duplicate post.