I think the Green Knight symbolizes nature, which is never intentionally cruel, but always benign, even when it kills us. Fear of nature is groundless. The Green Knight or Green Man, as fearsome as he might appear, is benign.

Under any circumstances we should not loose our heads ... just look around at the extreme powers ... do they represent wisdom or just something to learn from .. about how not to do it?

The there is the old polynesian axiom about manna ... it's unnatural bred fruit of the sole ... then love must be a natural hidden character ... like eM Ur Old (eM being a population paradigm, Ur being an old word for power of the defunct Water buffalo of Nepaleze footlands, and old being like an aboriginal's Tory ... fixation or institution) ... put's some of us in fits of Hood's .. hidden fabrication of humour ... plasma-like?

Doctorine of the medeval times would do all they could to remove this from common folk (pagans) ... even up to an inclusive of removing the head ... dark flowering portion ... fluer de Lisa? Travelling coinage ... like monis? Sometimes just a vast treasure chest full of word ... old windbags to the tyrants of the land?

Perhaps why the English hated bag pipes ... they appreaciated their trump ETs ... trumping all others to Jewsis ... a fluid that'll come back as ESS. antes ... soul and spirit in alternate dimension without the carrier ... medium of the bear's ole ... naked thing ... just face it ... confrontation is bet' UR with a bit of humour! Even if the profundity baffles it speaks to the inner character ... unconscious sole ...?

Some tiers of hugh manity chuckle over untouchables ... they need to be enbraced as part and parcel ...

Our culture has, at times, forgotten that nature is, by nature, "red in tooth and claw" at times.

There are still people who think in terms of carnivores being somehow "bad guys" and herbivores on which they feed as "good guys". I also find it odd that we sympathize so much with the prey when, in terms of nature, we are now an apex predator. People are sometimes surprised by love of and fascination with creatures like sharks or predatory dinosaurs (ever notice how T Rex is always given a diabolical look, even in some purportedly "scientific" books). The thing is, we are really trying to apply the "do not kill" ethos to creatures who, by nature, must kill to survive (there are no vegetarian sharks) and nature simply doesn't work that way.

Then there's things like storms, earthquakes, volcanoes - forces that are essential to existence but powerful and destructive at the same time. Again, we tend to view these as somehow "evil" when, in fact, they are both creative and destructive and the truth lies somewhere in the balance between the two.

I guess that I'm ending up at needing to recognize that nature does not abide by human values and aesthetics and we need to appreciate and love it on its own terms, not expect it to abide by ours. I think that figures like Pan and the Green Man, properly understood and appreciated, provide a religious/spiritual approach to recognizing this.

BTW, Arthur Machen's fantasy story "The Great God Pan" is a good story that goes into this territory, taking the Greek god Pan as its basis rather than the Celtic Green Man.

Mendalla

Pan was a whiny creature under the trees, bacalaurian as Tamyr ... the woman who lured Judah into the Shadows as a biblical  expression ... it has a weird undercurrant ... subliminal side ...

Th's Torah goes on ... characters all bent to Elle ... toille? Something to work on ...

Yes, comanding our respect, and understanding that there is dark in the woods, but as you say Arminius, not intentionally out to get us, it gets us indiscriminately. This is represented in the green knight sparing Gawain's life I think. And Gawain learns that nature is powerful, dangerous, and bigger than he is, that he underestimated it, and he cannot overcome it. After all, the Knight can grow his head back!, like the weeds and vines in the forest. Great power comands great respect. The green man is a god of nature.

That Pan book sounds interesting Mendalla. I am reminded of Mr Thomnas in Narnia, a satyr as I see it. He secums to his own darker nature too.

Nature is like that, and we all have it in us, and we all have the choice of which side to nurture, our light nature and our dark nature. The Green Knight reminds Gawain of this. Gawain succeeded in resisting the wife, who represents mother nature/nature goddess, and all her lusty ways of giving in and bounty and procreation, though he was tempted. The Knight and the wife are in cahoots see, to teach Gawain this lesson, and that ironically, is kind.

As the months roll by, I feel more and more that we share a shard of universal consciousness.

Becoming aware of our awareness. Examining our free-form thoughts.

Avoiding dogma (to remember and obey) -- and enjoying the happiness that is independent of external things,

Neither the past nor the future exists...all we have (or need) is the forever present now.

Quantum understanding agrees with the Buddah: Everything is connected, it's the separatedness that causes all the trrouble ,,,,

Nice to know that the Arminius lamp is ON.

HG,

Did you know that "separateness" is derived from the old Hebrew word A'B'D, which came to be known through a Rueben ... sort of sandwich in affairs ...

One could think of this as message rub'd on a cave wall, in sooty characters ... from alien space of the creative sole ... but don't tell anyone straight out ... knowledge is evil in a Romantic twist of the parietal lobe ... causes recessive Jinns (crevasses) something to stop and think about arresting the intellect for a bit as the issue is knocked off the walls ... a bounce ... like reflection ... even Canan eKos ...

Is there a world beyond Latin? Many many tongues ... moor than a Romantic could know? It is a frothy issue on this side of the abstract dimension ...

No, I didn;t know that. I spend extremely small amounts of my time looking for old Hebrew

derivites. Current meanings hold my interest better. I am somewhat ashamed to admit it but I am English-bound, with which you take unconscienable liberties. Flagrent! A semantic holocaust! For shame!

(edging away) uh...ok...I'll keep that in mind...

Well HG, people seem really to take no interest in the errors of the past ... they might become aware of something that would cause them variation in their present pathè ... the pain of the "devil of thinking" process ... causes spectres of alien ways ... strange wonderings from fringe peoples? In the words of old Romantic Gods .. a thinking man is the devil ... doesn't follow any literary roué ... Western Axiom: "It's a free world!" Then, who respects that in the other? Requires a fine sense of balance in literal schemes ... like Fin Against Wake ... Celtic Frau Loch ... amuses distant powers of intellect as defined in the English train of word ... Sam Johnson and then the Webster Triad (Wll, Noah and Dan) then isn't D'n the devil of an opposing shift of Ayres ... Arid high lands? It's all in the binomial Cos of metaphor ... few go there for the other side of the story they firmly believe as superficial ... nothing below to fall into! They believe in no de core eM ...

It sah hardy cause ... holes in emotions and emotions are said to be nothing ... from which something was made ... deeper satire than a mortal can touch in Plateau's Cavein to Romantic visions ... sinkhole? How much lower can a mortal get? Well consider that here mortals do not tolerate truth ... if we did we wouldn't be into this chit about war and idealising the thing. Then one has to be prepared for hostility and a good subliminal giggle ... say it so they won't understand ... the birth of the story as satire .. a lightly bier dead parable? Jah Zeus did you see that go bi ...

It seems the way I'm La-belled ... like an idealism of unconscienable behaviour, questioning higher feeling powers? Do your feet tingle with me here below yah ... the sod-o'r-me? Some call it the dirt on neuropathé ... takes some freedom with old words to understand the process of the Ais of mind ... imagination that is the root of desire ... of how one Fury can screw up another ... Cosmic Gammos ... dark volume that you should get your head around ...

Wasn't there something in the sacred syntax about learning the tongues of all peoples ...but mortals have fixations (institutions) and the immortal has what as incarnation? Just a wee spark ... like star dust ... falling mire?

Grim & beautiful indeed.  And either word I attribute to nature I can never seperate myself from.  There are the facts, like this happened at this time for this duration and then there is the interpretation, is it good, is it bad, is it ugly, is it important, is it meaningless?

Thus, a stereotypical Marxist & a stereotypical Free Market Capitalist can look at the same labour situation and one will see the relentless exploitation and another will see possibilities.

Again, how someone reacts tells me more aboot them (and is more fascinating, btw, for me) than what something really 'is'.

Viewpoints are the spice of life.  We need our conformists as much as we need our 'hippies'.  Both have roles.

Then there is the polynesian adherants that believe love is natural and natural is evil in the sight of bared soles in the san (without, aesthetic ... adornments?). Grass it over ? Now there's a weak opening ...

Some feel great guilt over baring their desire for necessities! Then speaking of such things would be unnatural ... th'aught process that follows a blind love session in depths of space ... no end tuit!

The biblical version states that God, Love will come between all things ... mothers, fathers, siblings, all relations ... but some do not believe in relating. Thus the atom is 1/10 to the 15th power ... ratio of empty space .. an aesthetic of a flamboyant symbol of nothing N'ess requiring feeding ... sole prerequisits? It needs culturing folks and we as mortal don't believe in that ... divined comedy? In such separation we shall be consumed, to digest what we have unconsciously learned ... then many do not believe in the abstract, or aesthetic side of the mind that illustrates something missing ... devoid nut case ... fallout of the Buddha'n tres ... triad as psi ... mire wind in the willowing ... at the root ... Shadows, sous la Light overhead ... unsect' din combining form well alloy'd as Çhi-ite ... internalized fire ... homogenus ... so as to avoid busting out until ripened a bit! Qol ESS'd?

Did you know that according to psycho pathic rule ... a mortal can learn nothing without parable ... then the mortal powers try to put end to that ... monotheistic belief in emotions alone ... a disturbance in thinking space ... keeps the Ba' eLeM moving ... in dimpled space--Einsteinian movement differing from Brownian movement of pas Zion ... all quite subliminal to man as plagurism of stuff beneath the sun ... Phtha Roe's didn't like eM ... sent pollenation to the desert as omi Zion of th'aught ... nut cases all in woven baskets under the moe'n ... awkward and heis ferrous ... irony in finest form ... pyre-ite? Fool's Gold; pagaens giggling over alien stories ... purely satyr IX ... the rich don't understand as the soul is removed by love of the mortal form ... spirit and soul being something else ... the other side of Charles Har Veis ... de Light? Even Romantic Theosis states that salvation is in de light although they oppose such things in the pagaen ...

Yes it is all about the interpretation, that is the art of life.

I am going to make the big Waterbuoy comprehention effort :

The tens of thousands of history books sold every year, history classes, are mere affectations, and the world is populated by unthinking dullards. 

Do I read you correctly?

Does thinking pain you? People you know? EVERYBODY?

All scholarship is affective fraud?

In sum: People don't think. OK. Got it. You have been wailing this for the last 4,765 posts, Why?

What audience are you trying to reach?

For 4,763 posts...I see your post, I say to my self, here's a nice guy; took the trouble to posting a nine page effort...wish I didn't have to skip it becauae it makes no sense whatever to me ... Gertrude Stein by comparasion is clear as a bell,

Does he sit down and say, here I go not communicating again.,,doesn't matter because people don't think and wouldn't understand anyway,,,

Naaa ...just curious. and a trifle sad to have to go away saying 'I wonder what THAT was all about'

Yeah, Waterbuoy, you would reach your audience if you spoke clearly. People do think, they just don't have the time or inclination to try and unravel your coded musings. Code may work for only short poems though.

Stellar effort on Happy Genius' part.

Heh,

Call me crazy in a world where it is against the law to tell truth ... so I take Freud's advice ... let it all out (explitive?) in a way no one will know its truth. It'll really Pi' Sem off the authorities otherwise.

My apologies for nonsensical explitives ... enough for recessive Jinns ... dimples in space? I'll retreat there and think. Did you know under Latin Law  thinkers were immoral, un-ethical and contrary to the mob mentality? My nonsense obviously causes HG as much pain as a wedgy ... so the dipthong will retreat ... like the sole a'Mon in this stage of the game ... that's tha mind ... a rarely seen thing in an emotional world ... sort of ethereal ... don't you think? Sorry ... there's that dirty word again ... thinking! Improper in a religious institution!

It is a subliminal resource for emotion/spiritual beings ... a realm in which I'm uncomfortable to say the least. They say competition is about beating the neighbour down then claim Christian attitudes about the alien ... strange thinker! In aboriginal Christian nature I ask your forgivness for my existence here ... caused dip thongs like tha bikini thing ... sort of a metaphor of a near naked sole ... painful in truth of the matter?

I Corinthians praised understanding along with divers love ... a small point in the modern Christian Eros ... that can kill ... an extended sole ...

Suppose this is why it is difficult to find a thinker today ... Philosopher's Stone? Look up philosophy in Webster ... a word thinly understood and much hated in religious circles that praise business as normal ... a real RIP'Ur ... like Pedre Prin. Put the incompetant on top ... it is a test ---I Thessalonians 5:21. Could this be real?I retreat into the creases among the isles ... recess!

Hey, one must go by the book, few are processed within it ...