revjohn
NCD Spirituality Style project
Posted on: 03/10/2009 10:56
Hi Gang:
Was just checking my hotmail account (not my primary e-mail) and noticed a new update from NCD (The Institute for Natural Church Development.
They are currently putting together a new resource that will assess spirituality styles.
The survey is 126 questions in length and provides results for 9 different categories. NCD claims that the survey can be completed in about 15-20 minutes. I clocked in at a little over 8.
The resource that it is attached to rolls out in October 2009 and will no doubt have more information to work with.
Other diagnostic tools developed by NCD often have a component which asks a close friend to also assess you to provide something of a corrective lense. This diagnostic doesn't have that in the online version. The wording on the results page leads me to believe that it is a strong possibility.
At any rate I scored the following:
Rational Style
125
Doctrinal Style
122
Scripture-driven Style
121
Sharing Style
114
Ascetic Style
108
Enthusiastic Style
96
Mystical Style
116
Sacramental Style
115
Sensory Style
113
Because it is still in the preliminary stages they are asking for respondents to identify their country and denominational affiliation.
When I did the survey they didn't have The United Church of Canada in the drop down menu so I selected "other" and typed in The United Church of Canada. I have no way of knowing if that meant I am the first or it just doesn't exist in their drop down menu yet.
If you would like to participate you can head on over to:
http://www.3colorsofyourspirituality.org/node/add/spiritual-style
They are collecting data until April 30, 2009
Grace and peace to you.
John
Comments
cjms
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:03
Thanks, John. Should be interesting...cms
RevMatt
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:07
hrm. I can't get the link to work. Can someone confirm whether it is a problem with the link? It could equally be my uber-crappy Rogers DNS locator.
cjms
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:10
It worked for me...cms
Serena
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:21
The link worked for me. It was a fun quiz. Here are my scores:
Rational Style
104
Doctrinal Style
123
Scripture-driven Style
109
Sharing Style
117
Ascetic Style
82
Enthusiastic Style
120
Mystical Style
115
Sacramental Style
110
Sensory Style
108
Panentheism
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:23
It worked for me - what is interesting is the bias in the questions which made it hard to answer some -when I get my results will post them -
Panentheism
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:25
Rational Style
116
Doctrinal Style
88
Scripture-driven Style
102
Sharing Style
104
Ascetic Style
97
Enthusiastic Style
95
Mystical Style
107
Sacramental Style
122
Sensory Style
126
RevMatt
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:31
K, kicked my modem, and it works now. But ewwwwww. I really hate the questions. A lot are very hard to answer. I'll post my results, for what they are worth, momentarily.
RevMatt
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:43
Rational Style
119
Doctrinal Style
96
Scripture-driven Style
93
Sharing Style
91
Ascetic Style
94
Enthusiastic Style
89
Mystical Style
98
Sacramental Style
89
Sensory Style
96
Does anyone know what these numbers actually tell us?
RevMatt
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:44
Other than I have less of all sorts of style than everyone else so far... :)
Kappa
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:49
I don't know RevMatt, your avatar DEFINITELY has style. How can one not love goalie Jesus? Further evidence that there is some important element of "style" that this survey does not capture.
revjohn
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:53
Hi RevMatt,
Well, I suspect NCD does and we will not fully know until the resource becomes available in October.
From what I read on the site while looking at this the intent is to determine which style is your best path to a deeper relationship with God. Just from looking at the results shown so far I have yet to see anyone who scores really high in one style and really low in all others (or vice versa).
Some of the questions gave me pause also but I have found this to be true of a lot of NCD diagnostics. They try very hard to be non-denomination in their focus and yet speak to all of Christianity in all global contexts.
They read as being more right of centre in their diagnostics and certainly in the material that accompanies the diagnostic one could read that bias as well. Some of the larger materials that they have produced tends to be more moderate.
Grace and peace to you.
John
revjohn
Posted on: 03/10/2009 11:59
Hi RevMatt,
Other than I have less of all sorts of style than everyone else so far... :)
Higher scores do not make one a better person.
Think of it in the same vein as a Myer's Briggs typology. That these are learning preferences not learning abilities.
Grace and peace to you.
John
RevMatt
Posted on: 03/10/2009 12:12
Which means I have no preferred way of learning, or that I prefer not to learn?
IBelieve
Posted on: 03/10/2009 12:18
I felt the questions were very straight forward with the odd exception:
Rational Style
112
Doctrinal Style
122
Scripture-driven Style
128
Sharing Style
128
Ascetic Style
116
Enthusiastic Style
126
Mystical Style
116
Sacramental Style
87
Sensory Style
96
Be Blessed,
IB
crazyheart
Posted on: 03/10/2009 12:40
Matt, don't feel bad Here are mine.
Rational Style
104
Doctrinal Style
95
Scripture-driven Style
88
Sharing Style
91
Ascetic Style
90
Enthusiastic Style
91
Mystical Style
105
Sacramental Style
88
Sensory Style
98
Panentheism
Posted on: 03/10/2009 12:42
I noticed in mine a connection between the rational and the mystical - my preference for more sacremental forms of worship and also the connection with the experience of music and the environment. Which is more how I see myself.
I used some of the scriptural questions in the idea of social gospel which made it higher than doctrine.
RevMatt
Posted on: 03/10/2009 14:05
Thanks, CH :)
cjms
Posted on: 03/10/2009 14:22
Yes; I had to substitute words sometimes to be able to answer the principal of their question. It really may not have worked effectively.
Rational Style
109
Doctrinal Style
75
Scripture-driven Style
77
Sharing Style
109
Ascetic Style
81
Enthusiastic Style
79
Mystical Style
90
Sacramental Style
81
Sensory Style
110
revjohn
Posted on: 03/10/2009 14:46
Hi RevMatt,
Which means I have no preferred way of learning, or that I prefer not to learn?
Hey! That's right in my wheel-house. Has Home-run written all over it.
You have a preferred way of learning. That would be the highest score from among the 9 different styles.
It may not be as high as others for a number of reasons other than you preferring not to learn.
Grace and peace to you.
John
Serena
Posted on: 03/10/2009 15:21
Or maybe that you are THE perfect student and can learn ALL ways?
Faerenach
Posted on: 03/10/2009 15:53
Okay, 'cause I'm a formatting nerd, I ranked mine:
Rational Style
115
Sensory Style
113
Sharing Style
107
Ascetic Style
98
Sacramental Style
97
Mystical Style
97
Scripture-driven Style
93
Enthusiastic Style
90
Doctrinal Style
88
Punkins
Posted on: 03/11/2009 13:11
For what it's worth ...
Rational Style
109
Doctrinal Style
90
Scripture-driven Style
97
Sharing Style
100
Ascetic Style
85
Enthusiastic Style
95
Mystical Style
104
Sacramental Style
93
Sensory Style
109
SG
Posted on: 03/11/2009 16:00
123
nighthawk
Posted on: 03/11/2009 22:57
Rational Style
123
Sacramental Style
115
Sensory Style
114
Doctrinal Style
110
Mystical Style
105
Sharing Style
103
Ascetic Style
102
Scripture-driven Style
98
Enthusiastic Style
92
Me in a nutshell.
Kinst
Posted on: 03/11/2009 23:23
They have United Church of Christ but no United Church of Canada! We're just as big as the UC Christ. This is imperialism!!!
revjohn
Posted on: 03/11/2009 23:32
Hi Kinst,
They have United Church of Christ but no United Church of Canada! We're just as big as the UC Christ. This is imperialism!!!
The Institute for Natural Church Development is headquartered in Germany and is non-denominational.
They work with congregations primarily. At one point they were trying to get denominations on line and were very willing to train individuals as coaches to go back and work with the various denominations. I don't know why that strategy stopped. I do know that for the seven years I was in Newfoundland and Labrador I was the only coach in The United Church of Canada and the only congregations that were interested in NCD were the ones I had a pastoral relationship with.
I think that the highest number of coaches with NCD training the United Church ever had was 5. 1 in NL, 1 in NS, 2 in ON and 1 in BC.
The United Church of Canada as a whole, does not seem to be aware of the existence of NCD or their material. I suspect the same is true of them knowing about us.
Grace and peace to you.
John
revjohn
Posted on: 10/09/2009 21:24
Hi Gang,
Resurrecting the thread because there is new info.
The 3 Color of Spirituality is now at the printers and will be available about the middle of November.
NCD is sending Christian A Schwarz on a North American tour to coincide with the book's availability. There are two Canadian workshops planned. The first is in Edmonton on Nov 4th the second in Toronto on November 13.
Cost for the day is $50 and includes lunch and a copy of the book.
Grace and peace to you.
John
stardust
Posted on: 10/10/2009 23:20
Hi guys
I couldn't get the link so I went to my god (little g) google. While there I did find some short videos of Christian A. Schwarz , the founder of NCD, if anyone cares to peruse them.
Videos - Christian A. Schwarz founder of NCD
stardust
Posted on: 10/15/2009 15:38
Bumping this up because its interesting to hear what C. Schwarz has to say on the link I posted above. Very short videos. I think he brings a lot of inspiration to churches that don't feel they're doing very well.
revjohn
Posted on: 10/18/2009 14:52
Hi Stardust,
Schwarz is pretty amazing and very low key.
The videos are top-drawer.
Grace and peace to you.
John
stardust
Posted on: 10/18/2009 19:05
Rev. John
revjohn
Posted on: 03/10/2011 21:07
Hi Gang.
I'm bumping this thread up as NCD has put up a page which includes more detailed information on the 3 Colors of your Spirituality (including definitions of the different styles we were scoring upthread.
Page found here: http://3colorsofyourspirituality.org/
Some interesting resources available (most with purchase of the book).
Grace and peace to you.