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Post Secondary Education

I'm curious to know everyone's level of education and their degree (if applicable).

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Going into grade 11, pretty awesome huh? teehee

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Grade 9; Matric Equivalency Exam eight years later; then one year at Humber College for computer programming (plus another 2-3 years of night school there for an additional 4-6 courses).  Additional system-related courses and training at work.

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Undergraduate degree in biology (Pacific Northwest Marine Invertebrate Morphology)

 

Several IT trade tickets including MCSE.

 

Graduate of the University of Applied Violence, Gagetown NB Campus.

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I feel a tad inferior Witch ._.

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BSc(OT) from the University of Toronto.  This was many moons ago.  Occupational therapy is now a master's degree.

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Why?

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I am a RN and later returned to school to become an Occupational Health Nurse.(OHN).
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Useless undergrad in Social Development Studies at the University of Waterloo.

A friend of mine, and former coworker has a position she loves at a community college.  We were both support workers with the same agency and she left and was scrambling to pay her bills by waiting tables etc.  She started volunteering with the literacy program and ended up with coordinator's position within a few months because she applied for it when it became vacant.  Makes stupid money more than 3x what she had been making.  The reason for this is that she has a forty-year-old degree in MATH.  The reason I'm still a support worker is that my degree isn't in a "teachable subject".

Study math kids!

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BA in Classics from the only University that matters, Trent.

 

MDiv from Queen's Theological College.

 

But yeah, why do you ask?  Just curiosity?

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B.Eng.&Mgmt. (Civil) from McMaster University.

 

Which is why it was pretty ironic when Witch compared Jae challenging biologists with challenging a structural engineer, with me around.

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Sebb wrote:

I feel a tad inferior Witch ._.

 

No need to.

 

An undergraduate degree in Biology merely allowed me to pursue my dream.

 

Driving taxi

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chansen wrote:

B.Eng.&Mgmt. (Civil) from McMaster University.

 

Which is why it was pretty ironic when Witch compared Jae challenging biologists with challenging a structural engineer, with me around.

 

You have to admit, it was good for a segue

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Witch wrote:

Sebb wrote:

I feel a tad inferior Witch ._.

 

No need to.

 

An undergraduate degree in Biology merely allowed me to pursue my dream.

 

Driving taxi

 

lol

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I'm doing my B.Sc, 2/5 years done

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Woot Kinst, just 3 years to go ^_^

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B.Sc. (Math major)

B.Ed.

Both from UWinnipeg.

 

Would like to eventually go back and get a Masters in something, preferably Peace and Justice Studies or something like that.

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Most of a diploma in electronic engineering technology (life happened and I flunked a couple of courses and didn't finish my senior project)

BSc (chemistry)

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BSA (Bachelor of Science in Agriculture) - Animal Science major - U of S

 

Business Administration Diploma - SIAST Palliser (Moose Jaw)

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I beat Sebb. I didn't flunk out of high school until easter of grade eleven.

Did a general BA, mostly at night a Sir George Williams in Montreal. It was general because my grades were so low, they wouldn't give me a major. (I had a D- in the introductory course in canadian history.)

Then a one year teaching programme at macdonald college because any idiot could get in and pass in those days.

After teaching six years, talked way into Acadia for a qualifying year. Got my first top grades since elementary school. Got an MA and got into Queen's for a PhD in history.

Later became chairman of the department that had refused to give me a major. (most of them felt they had made the right decision in the first place.)

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Radio Broadcasting diploma from Loyalist College. Now working towards a BGS from Thompson Rivers University - Open Learning.

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Sounds like Graeme and I tie for being the most "overlettered".

My stats: BSc(Hon) (UWO),  MSc (UWO), PhD(UofA) and then after 5 years of post-doctoral work and realizing there weren't many research jobs out there went back for:   BEd (Queens). 

Talk about piled higher and deeper (phd)!  But then, some of those years were complicated by a struggle with Crohns' Disease (which at least two other WCer's also have).  When I taught high school I was always amused by Grade 9 students complaining about how many years they had been in school. Compared to my 26 years (including Gr 13, now gone), after a paltry 9 years, they had hardly just begun!

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lastpointe wrote:

Why?

 

Hi Lastpointe, 

 

Were you asking me about occupational therapy?  Don't get me started. 

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p.s. just to confirm ninja's comment about taking math - despite a lot of science background, it was three math courses that were most valuable from a teachable point of view. Math teachers always seemed to be in demand. And the classes were easier to teach than science or computers: no messy labs to prepare and clean up, no machines to break down, and it was easier to come up with new questions.

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Paradox - were you commenting on OT becoming grad -level? (before the switch I taught OT's and PT's, among other students).  I wonder if it was because there were too many applicants - increase the requirements and there will be fewer with the qualifications that can apply. That certainly happened in medicine. UWO used to admit a few with only one year of their bachelor's. Now it's not uncommon for a quarter of the class to have advanced degrees.

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spiritbear wrote:

p.s. just to confirm ninja's comment about taking math - despite a lot of science background, it was three math courses that were most valuable from a teachable point of view. Math teachers always seemed to be in demand. And the classes were easier to teach than science or computers: no messy labs to prepare and clean up, no machines to break down, and it was easier to come up with new questions.

 

If a train leaves Boston, at 9:00am, travelling at 50 mph, and another leaves Detroit, at 11:00am travelling at 47 mph, and a math teacher is tied to the tracks at an indeterminate place, what is the latest time the math teacher could still be alive?

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Oh spiritbear, so true. I came from way outside the academic world, spent much time thinking there was something wrong with me for not enjoying it as i should, then realized what a collection of pompous asses it was.

You taught high school? So did I. I had more respect for me and for education at that level.

graeme

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I had a high school chemistry teacher, Doctor Hebden, who was offered a professorship at several different Universities after his research days were done. He turned them all down to teach high school chemistry.

 

He said it was more fun.

 

We enjoyed the explosions.

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graeme wrote:

I beat Sebb. I didn't flunk out of high school until easter of grade eleven.

Did a general BA, mostly at night a Sir George Williams in Montreal. It was general because my grades were so low, they wouldn't give me a major. (I had a D- in the introductory course in canadian history.)

Then a one year teaching programme at macdonald college because any idiot could get in and pass in those days.

After teaching six years, talked way into Acadia for a qualifying year. Got my first top grades since elementary school. Got an MA and got into Queen's for a PhD in history.

Later became chairman of the department that had refused to give me a major. (most of them felt they had made the right decision in the first place.)

 

You win this time Greame! But I'll be back! STRONGER AND WITH MORE BOOK LEARNIN'S!!!! MWAHA HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! *walks away laughing like a mad man*

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me well..... i had lot of jobs i studied electrical tech. now i do asst nursing.but i want to do fashion design.

 

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Hi paradox3, no I wasn't directing it to you.

 

I was directing it to meoff66.

 

My question was why would you want to know.

 

 

 I think there can be a level of education snobbery.  those with degrees and multiple degrees, get or feel they get or others feel they should get, a higher level of attention and respect.

 

In an online forum, I don't care where you went to school and I dont' want others without an education to think that they are in a place where everyone is sooo educated that they should keep quiet.

 

Sometimes a thread gets input from someone with a specific education and we can all learn from that.  But just because someone has a univeristy education doesn't make their opinion any more valid to me.

 

that is why I haven't given my own.  If I want to know more about someone I look at their profile

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snobbery, arrogance and overconfidence do come with degrees. There's an epidemic of it in the universities, a sense that the more classes one takes, the wiser one becomes - in all areas of life.

Universities don't just tolerate this sort of thing. They wallow in it.

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I think that many of us would agree that degrees don't necessarily equal wisdom.  They do, perhaps, equal knowledge in a specific subject area, but I wouldn't go too far past that.  I know too many highly educated people that are just plain stupid about the world, how it works, how people think, and all that stuff.  I also know far more people who have a high school education (if that) and have an incredible amount to offer and have a far keener insight to the world around them than other people do.

 

One thing I like about WonderCafe is that everyone is on equal footing -- at least, from my perspective.

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I had no motive to posting the question. I meant no harm to those who may feel they cannot answer, or must keep quiet. I want to see the diversity in education here. I was merely curious.

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I was a straight A student until I dropped out of grade 12 my first semester. Then I came back with a vengeance and graduated highschool Valedicotorian at age 17. Garnered the Governor General's Academic Award. Went to UofA for my B.A. for one year. Life happened and now I am working on my Professional Writing Degree, because I realize I do not need 4 years of education to follow my passion of writing. Once upon a time I wanted to be a lawyer, but my mind changes like I change socks everyday (BTW i think this thread is neat. I admire those who partake in higher learning!).

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And eventually it will come back to horrify them all;for that same arrogance planted in every University student will find expression by way of the Unspeakable;new laws that allow no censure of experimentations formerly forbidden;the removing of laws that protect people from being reduced to nonentities in order to slate them for use as subjects (as they are mentally and physically inferior)in a wide range of applications(slave labor,lab rats,cannon fodder,etc.)It simply has not happened yet because the former generation who experienced the terrors of the Third Reich have not completely passed away yet;but as soon as their nightmares fade a little from the public consciousness the latest generation of Intelligensia will begin to think,using that higher education of theirs:Why Not?

If people could truly become wiser for education,why do the majority end up making better bombs and stronger viruses(both computer and organic!);and never come up with solutions to the urgent troubles of our times

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I know that the comment I posted prior to this one comes off as hate-mongering against University students,and for that I am sorry;Students dont become maniacal monsters for enrolling in College or University!!!But what my argument is :why the atmosphere of arrogance and snobberey?What in the world do these professors and  other specialists in higher education think they have done,or could do,that justifies such behaviour---or teaching impressionable minds the same?Have them find a way to end world hunger;or cure cancer,or end terrorism,or end pollution,in a way which doesnt require compromise or risk,and I will call them geniuses.

My deepest apologies to all you college and University students,you worry much,suffer much,feel much...it just doesnt seem right to me that when you finally have your degrees in hand that you have to compromise your dreams in order to make a living!!!

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lastpointe wrote:
I think there can be a level of education snobbery.  those with degrees and multiple degrees, get or feel they get or others feel they should get, a higher level of attention and respect.

 

Respect? No that shouldn't be.

 

When it comes to attention, however, and financial status, and power, education should be a route to those things.

 

With investment should come pay-off.

 

Higher education demands a great deal of investment in terms of money, time, energy, and work.

 

Those who strive forth should be rewarded.

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Some people "strive forth" because they are privileged Jae.  Post-secondary education of any kind takes money.  And time.  Many people are out in the world working hard at a young age.

 

I don't know.  My family taught me that all work is honourable.  People choose to do all sorts of different things.  All have value.  It's our society that has learned to value some things more than others.  And going out into the world without post-secondary education doesn't mean any less work and investment in my opinion.

 

Those are just a couple of thoughts.  Not any kind of argument intended - your post just got me thinking Jae. 

 

TL

 

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Hmmm.....just thinking some more.  When I said "some people" are able to get a post-secondary education because they are privileged I'd like to clarify that I didn't mean all people.  Some people also really work their way through.

 

And that's it for me.  Long week and pooped and signing off  :-)

 

TL

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meoff66 wrote: "I'm curious to know everyone's level of education and their degree"

 

EZ Answer: Anger management certificate, Ferndale Penitentiary

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There are many paths to the same destination. I know people who never even graduated high school who have excellent career paths. I also know people who have received an abundance of education, yet have no set direction as of yet. I know people who were homeschooled, people who were educated only in one aspect of life with nothing else (refused academic education). People who have challenged the system, and people who have failed the system but found their path elsewhere. Education is not for everyone. Sure there are life long learners, but there are different types of people, and different types of learners.

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meoff66 wrote:

Sure there are life long learners, but there are different types of people, and different types of learners.

Very very well said. Different paths exist for different people.

My mother had two sisters and four brothers. Of the seven children in that family, the one who did best in life, evaluating on a strictly financial basis, was the one who did not attend university. My eldest uncle went straight to work after secondary school and worked his way on up to being a paint company president.

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Tiger_Lily wrote:

Some people "strive forth" because they are privileged Jae.

 

Yes, you're right. And some people go to school through scholarships. And some go thanks to government grants. And some are supported by private clubs, churches, family, neighbors, etc.

 

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Post-secondary education of any kind takes money.  And time.  Many people are out in the world working hard at a young age.

 

They do have opportunities to continue learning. There are night schools. There are part-time studies. There is distance learning. Many schools now offer courses, and even whole programs via the Internet.

 

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Those are just a couple of thoughts.  Not any kind of argument intended - your post just got me thinking Jae.

 

Yes, I seem to have that effect on people.

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meoff66 - lots of wisdom in your post. 

 

Jae I posted what I felt.  I get some things OK and miss others.  That's just me.  Thanks for responding.  I agree with what you said about the various ways that people get through school.

 

TL

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 PhD at Glasgow: supported myself through writing, which was more rewarding in most ways than the academic stuff. At this level, it's sheer persistence that gets you there as you struggle to make the blindingly obvious totally impenetrable.

But you should seek education -- at any level -- not to get a job, but to get a life.

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Passed on a planned second year of Gr.12 in Alberta (1969)at my mom's insistence (I still don't know why). Drank my way out of an Electronics Technology course (everything was woefully obsolete anyway).

Got certificates in workplace safety, welding, Six Sigma Green Belt and Six Sigma Lean Management. The last two only last year.

I am a readaholic and largely self educated. My ADD might have something to do with it.

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Love it, very fascinating -

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