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How is advertising affecting our faith and how we live. Someone called last week for a thread on advertising but I wasn't sure where to post it.

Two things on the news this morning - marketing of Obama daughters in the form of two dolls. Apparently the Obamas are upset that their daughters will be used in such a way. If you look at it another way,  these dolls could be advocates for black children who usually only find white dolls under their trees.

 

A big controversy on a "how to on breast feeding" on FaceBook. Full nudity of breasts is not allowed.

 

And of course there is the ongoing "bus signs" dispute.

 

Of course, we all see the insidious ads on  TV , in magazines that show svelte, skinny, young, beautiful women in everything from soup commercials to toilet paper. The "Canadian and American Dream" that is nowhere the reality of where we are as  men,women and children.

 

Do we as a faith community of any stripe have obligations to speak out about these ads?

Are they okay as they are?

Should we be worried or not?

 

This is open for discussion.

 

 

 
 
 
 
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Sure CH - way to move the thread while I'm posting to it!!!

 

Re: Obama dolls.  The line that is crossed seems to be in the permission to produce a likeness of an individual(s) without their consent - or their parents' in this case.  I believe it to be wrong without consent.  If they did consent, then the question becomes one of parental exploitation.  Would a doll harm the girls in any way?  How are they being depicted?  Will they have DD-cup breasts and an 18" waist just like Barbie?...cms

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Sorry cjms - couldn't find the right place to post it. Glad you found it.

It also begs the question that once you are a celeb etc, do you lose all personal rights? Because I am sure the Obamas wouldn't launch a suit.

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cjms wrote:

   The line that is crossed seems to be in the permission to produce a likeness of an individual(s) without their consent - or their parents' in this case.  I believe it to be wrong without consent.  

 

Does this include the Bobble Head Jesus?

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tee hee, CF Didn't you know that the UC had permission in writing? And then "Jesus  wept"

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There haven't been a lot of good dolls for girls who are black and these seem like a great fit and I can see why they would be popular.

TY, the company that has put them out, says they aren't modeled after the Obama girls but they have the same names so DUHHH

 

The dolls shown in the paper are cute little things with breasts.  The Obama girls are 7 and 10 i think , Not very smart.

It appears that no permission was obtained but I don't think you need permission, only if something is copyrighted. 

 

I think an issue is the privacy that is usually accorded the children of presidents.

 

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consumingfire wrote:

cjms wrote:

   The line that is crossed seems to be in the permission to produce a likeness of an individual(s) without their consent - or their parents' in this case.  I believe it to be wrong without consent.  

 

Does this include the Bobble Head Jesus?

 

I think that he is in the public domain now...

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I think it is not appropriate for dolls of the Obama girls to be sold.  To be role models for African-Americans is too great a responsibility for a 7 and 10 year old.  What if one or both of them ends up acting like a Bush girl?

 

Whereas Mylie Syrus and other child stars have some say in their rise to stardom, I don't think the Obamas could anticipate dolls of their girls--were there any Chelsea Clinton or drunken-Bush-girl dolls?  Also, where other child stars having doting parents to (often unsuccessfully) look into their childrens well-being, President and First Lady Obama will be otherwise engaged for the next 8 years.

 

It is not fair to these two young girls that they be made into role-models or public personalities.  For their sack,I hope it doesn't go too much further.

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