Not quite. Let's just say that I am betwixt and between, but I am finding that things are very attractive on the other side of the fence.
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Rowan
Posted on: 06/11/2014 10:01
Which fence are you thinking of hopping?
crazyheart
Posted on: 06/11/2014 10:44
Are you nimble enough to jump fence? lol
naman
Posted on: 06/11/2014 11:22
Rowan, the fence between WonderCafe and WonderCafe2
chansen
Posted on: 06/11/2014 11:54
Considering this side of the fence is on fire, I'd say the choice is getting easier by the day.
naman
Posted on: 06/11/2014 12:56
Oh Dear! I have a lot of bags to pack so that they do not go down with the ship.
redbaron338
Posted on: 06/11/2014 13:08
Oh Dear! I have a lot of bags to pack so that they do not go down with the ship.
Ummmmm... if you're on a ship.... and you're jumping over a fence.... where will you end up? Hope you're wearing a PFD.
naman
Posted on: 06/11/2014 13:54
Earlier today, I was jumping back and forth to WonderCafe2 or WonderShip2 but now I have to stay on this old ship because I have lost my password to the new ship. I Hope that the new password that I have asked WonderCafe2 for arrives in time. In the mean time I am wondering about my baggage.
chansen
Posted on: 06/11/2014 14:10
Should go instantly to your email address.
If it doesn't, let me know here and I'll send you a new one and confirm your email address.
Saul_now_Paul
Posted on: 06/11/2014 16:29
It's still pretty hostile to passers-by.
I just get error messages and 3 people laughing down at you from the top right.
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 06/11/2014 16:34
It's still pretty hostile to passers-by.
I just get error messages and 3 people laughing down at you from the top right.
the Holy Trinity do seem to get around, don't they?
chansen
Posted on: 06/11/2014 16:44
It's still pretty hostile to passers-by.
I just get error messages and 3 people laughing down at you from the top right.
You're trying to gain access to a forum that isn't technically open to all yet, so you get an error, but you are on the site. Pre-registered people are now in. If you didn't pre-register your username, it will be open for unregistered (guest) access and web registration soon.
Do you want to pre-register as Saul_now_Paul or Jesus?
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/11/2014 16:56
It's still pretty hostile to passers-by.
I just get error messages and 3 people laughing down at you from the top right.
Count again brother. It seems there are now 5 Administrators.
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 06/11/2014 17:03
It's still pretty hostile to passers-by.
I just get error messages and 3 people laughing down at you from the top right.
Those two would be Sophia & Shemp -- after working for so many millenia, Jesus & the HS have finally worked out a paid vacation contract with The Boss...
naman
Posted on: 06/11/2014 18:59
Back here on my iPhone. I have lost my internet connection.)
Tabitha
Posted on: 06/11/2014 19:09
But their is no "Church Life" on WC2. I miss it.
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 06/11/2014 20:00
But their is no "Church Life" on WC2. I miss it.
You can make your own? Just include it in the title of all of your posts, so like "[Church Life]: Tabby misses it"?
chansen
Posted on: 06/11/2014 20:39
LOL - did I forget to add Church Life?????
Edit: And lo, chansen did create "Church Life", and looking down on what he hath created, he knew it was good.
crazyheart
Posted on: 06/11/2014 21:14
lol
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/11/2014 21:36
LOL - did I forget to add Church Life?????
Edit: And lo, chansen did create "Church Life", and looking down on what he hath created, he knew it was good.
crazyheart
Posted on: 06/11/2014 21:37
Tabitha, your wish is Chansen.s command. Church Life is now there.
gecko46
Posted on: 06/11/2014 21:40
LOL - did I forget to add Church Life?????
Edit: And lo, chansen did create "Church Life", and looking down on what he hath created, he knew it was good.
Any other neat creations up your sleeve?
Pinga
Posted on: 06/12/2014 00:26
Naman, did you get straightened out. I wouldntè want to reset a password that has been reset .
Tabitha
Posted on: 06/12/2014 10:12
wow Thanks Chansen
naman
Posted on: 06/12/2014 11:15
Yes Pinga, I am betwixt and between again. My internet connection was acting up and is now completely shut soon. The repairman is coming at noon. In the meantime I am logged on with my iPhone.
chansen
Posted on: 06/13/2014 08:54
wow Thanks Chansen
Don't thank me - I was an idiot for forgetting it.
revjohn
Posted on: 06/13/2014 11:29
Hi Dcn.Jae,
Count again brother. It seems there are now 5 Administrators.
I believe he is referencing the graphic and not the Council.
And for the record the Council at present has 3 administrators and 5 Moderators.
So if we were all laughing at him it would be 8 of us.
And why would we be laughing? Would it be because he can't get in or because instructions were given to get in, he ignored them and is now complaining that he cannot get in?
Grace and peace to you.
John
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 14:06
Hi Dcn.Jae,
Count again brother. It seems there are now 5 Administrators.
I believe he is referencing the graphic and not the Council.
And for the record the Council at present has 3 administrators and 5 Moderators.
So if we were all laughing at him it would be 8 of us.
And why would we be laughing? Would it be because he can't get in or because instructions were given to get in, he ignored them and is now complaining that he cannot get in?
Grace and peace to you.
John
Rev John - at one time - and possibly still now - there were at least 5 Admins - Pinga - chansen - Mendalla - Wondercafe2Admin - and Rolph.
Pinga
Posted on: 06/13/2014 16:27
No, there are 5 accounts. One is shared by 3 folks, and 1 is inactive but available for emergency support
Jae, we covered this by email
chansen
Posted on: 06/13/2014 16:49
Hi Dcn.Jae,
Count again brother. It seems there are now 5 Administrators.
I believe he is referencing the graphic and not the Council.
And for the record the Council at present has 3 administrators and 5 Moderators.
So if we were all laughing at him it would be 8 of us.
And why would we be laughing? Would it be because he can't get in or because instructions were given to get in, he ignored them and is now complaining that he cannot get in?
Grace and peace to you.
John
WC2Admin is the Super Admin account. We rarely have to use it.
Russ is the other. He is the stylist we hired. He kinda needs an account to do his work, but the account will be disabled when he isn't using it.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 17:56
Hi Dcn.Jae,
Count again brother. It seems there are now 5 Administrators.
I believe he is referencing the graphic and not the Council.
And for the record the Council at present has 3 administrators and 5 Moderators.
So if we were all laughing at him it would be 8 of us.
And why would we be laughing? Would it be because he can't get in or because instructions were given to get in, he ignored them and is now complaining that he cannot get in?
Grace and peace to you.
John
WC2Admin is the Super Admin account. We rarely have to use it.
Russ is the other. He is the stylist we hired. He kinda needs an account to do his work, but the account will be disabled when he isn't using it.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 17:59
InannaWhimsey
Posted on: 06/13/2014 18:09
Jae, young padawan, prooftexter of you WC, lover of sombunall genocide,
5 different admin accounts do not equal 5 Administrators :3
A stylist with an admin account doesn't equal the 3 admins of WC2
Pinga
Posted on: 06/13/2014 18:43
Hi Dcn.Jae,
Count again brother. It seems there are now 5 Administrators.
I believe he is referencing the graphic and not the Council.
And for the record the Council at present has 3 administrators and 5 Moderators.
So if we were all laughing at him it would be 8 of us.
And why would we be laughing? Would it be because he can't get in or because instructions were given to get in, he ignored them and is now complaining that he cannot get in?
Grace and peace to you.
John
WC2Admin is the Super Admin account. We rarely have to use it.
Russ is the other. He is the stylist we hired. He kinda needs an account to do his work, but the account will be disabled when he isn't using it.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Jae, your bulls hit games are boring.
You either are extremely obtuse or are playing games
Your question was asked and answered
chansen
Posted on: 06/13/2014 19:07
So you're admitting that there are more Admins then the number approved by the Wondercafe community. So it's true - the whole voting thing was just a scam. You Admins - it seems - had decided to hide the truth from the rest of us from the get-go. And you ask what's wrong with me.
Even your God thinks you're being an idiot.
WC2Admin is a shared Super Admin account. If anyone is logged into that, it's probably me. I don't use it unless I have to because using that account, you have access to promote any user to admin, which is about the only thing a regular admin can't do. I last used it on May 27th. I don't know when I'd use it again. Pinga, Mendalla and I have the password for it. Every XenForo account has a super admin account, and they recommend you not use it for your everyday account. That's three admins (people), four accounts.
Russ is the style contractor who made WC2 look like it does. We don't have that capability. His account has full control over the style of the site, but the password is changed right now, and he doesn't have the new one. When we need him again, we'll reactivate his password. Russ has no say on any other workings of the site, nor does he want any say. He's a contractor.
So, there's your five admin accounts. Stop being an idiot for sport.
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:05
Jae, young padawan, prooftexter of you WC, lover of sombunall genocide,
5 different admin accounts do not equal 5 Administrators :3
A stylist with an admin account doesn't equal the 3 admins of WC2
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:13
Russ is the style contractor who made WC2 look like it does. We don't have that capability. His account has full control over the style of the site, but the password is changed right now, and he doesn't have the new one. When we need him again, we'll reactivate his password. Russ has no say on any other workings of the site, nor does he want any say. He's a contractor.
So, there's your five admin accounts. Stop being an idiot for sport.
chansen
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:21
Maybe you think you're funny. You are not.
crazyheart
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:25
Jae, Letis talk about this. I thought you were coming to WC2 as a new person and what do I see the same a**h*** that I have see since the first time you steppd in.
My question is "Why"?"
I can't see you being a pastor, a Deacon, or a poster. It is all a game to you. Always was and always will be. You are hard to like.
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:30
Maybe you think you're funny. You are not.
gecko46
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:41
Maybe you think you're funny. You are not.
Jae, if you don't like it, leave! No one else is complaining.
It has been clearly explained to you. Are you that obtuse?
chansen
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:42
We talked about the stylist working on the site. He had to have an account. That's pretty much a given, unless you're suggesting he use one of our accounts, or the super admin account, which has more rights to user information?
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-...
Is that what you prefer? Giving the contractor more access than he needs? I'll delete his account and give him the super admin password if you want, which will let him have your email address. Just give the word.
kaythecurler
Posted on: 06/13/2014 20:46
Is there a Paranoia Flu going around in your neighborhood? I'm starting to think that Jae has caught it from one of his contacts.
revjohn
Posted on: 06/13/2014 21:01
Hi Dcn.Jae,
It isn't an issue of my being funny or not. It's an issue of the WC2 Admins having hidden an important truth from the Wondercafe community.
If it was "hidden" as you allege it is doubtful that it would have been revealed so candidly.
It has been explained that one account is shared between Pinga, Chansen and Mendalla. It has also been explained that one account is held by Russ who is a hired gun design wise and that his account is limited.
Russ is not part of the council.
You can either choose to believe that or not. I'm guessing you will choose not to because that is more congruent with your repeated expressions of suspicion and your general attitude of distrust to the council in whole or in part.
If you truly do not trust the Council, if you are going to spend your whole time at WC2 looking for a conspiracy directed against yourself or others then I can't imagine that being a part of WC2 is in your best interest or even remotely conducive to your emotional well-being.
Grace and peace to you.
John
crazyheart
Posted on: 06/13/2014 21:02
Jae thinks this gives him power.
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 21:15
It has also been explained that one account is held by Russ who is a hired gun design wise and that his account is limited.
Russ is not part of the council.
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 21:16
Jae thinks this gives him power.
crazyheart
Posted on: 06/13/2014 21:25
Mendalla
Posted on: 06/13/2014 21:35
In that case - the WC2 Admins should have been open and honest with the community from the get-go. No mention was made that there would be another person with an Admin account. At this point they ought to admit the mistake that they made of not having notified us all of this. Now - I am willing to believe what the Admins are currently saying that Russ is but a designer and - as I have already said - those who own the WC2 site can really do whatever they want with their site. What I'm issuing here is a call to honesty.
How were we dishonest? No one ever said that no one other than admins would have admin rights. And there was not a Council or other mechanisms in place at the time. Russ was done his work and gone long before anyone other than the three of us was on WC2 and before any of the documents were voted on. There was no need to say anything because he was no longer a factor by the time we had a Council. He shows up in the financials as a supplier and that is where he should show up.
Mendalla
revjohn
Posted on: 06/13/2014 22:01
Hi Dcn. Jae,
In that case - the WC2 Admins should have been open and honest with the community from the get-go.
Chansen has linked to the conversation where a stylist was assisting.
We are also in the process of using a styling consultant to make it look familiar to WC members. It should be an online home you're proud of. It will look inviting and professional. I think it looks like an updated WC, and we're still tweaking.
For the sake of repitition this is one of the threads chansen references:
http://www.wondercafe.ca/discussion/church-life/wc2-its-heavy-reading-we...
Chansen's quote was lifted from a post which is time stamped. Look for Chansen's post on 05/05/2014 at 10:57.
On the other thread that Chansen references above he says:
XenForo.
The stylist is due to start on our site tomorrow.
Again for repetition sake that thread is linked here:
http://www.wondercafe.ca/discussion/social/what-features-would-you-see-n...
And the post of Chansen's that I just quoted is: 04/15/2014 at 16:20
No mention was made that there would be another person with an Admin account.
Technically true. What kind of account did you expect him to have while doing the work that he was doing? An admin account allows the stylist to certain bells and whistles which control the way WC2 looks and performs.
It does not make the stylist an Administrator in the way that we have defined the term for WC2.
It has been no secret that we have had somebody other than Pinga, Mendalla or Chansen doing some of this work and all of us have been informed about it as early as mid April.
Any of us forgetting about it is not the same as anyone hiding it.
At this point they ought to admit the mistake that they made of not having notified us all of this.
True they did not give every detail. They did not fail to notify us of another individual working on the site and again, what kind of account would you expect someone doing that kind of work to have?
And account that is equal to the one you have now? That would allow anybody on WC2 to change the site's functionality on a whim.
Now - I am willing to believe what the Admins are currently saying that Russ is
No you aren't and no you haven't and it is likely that in the future the only thing you will be willing to believe about the Council is that it cannot be trusted.
Your distrust and suspicion is obvious. It runs so deep that it has mastered you.
What I'm issuing here is a call to honesty.
No. You aren't. You are sharpening your axe and nursing your grudge.
This is a repetition of the conversation we had in the first thread I reference in this response.
Grace and peace to you.
John
Dcn. Jae
Posted on: 06/13/2014 22:04
In that case - the WC2 Admins should have been open and honest with the community from the get-go. No mention was made that there would be another person with an Admin account. At this point they ought to admit the mistake that they made of not having notified us all of this. Now - I am willing to believe what the Admins are currently saying that Russ is but a designer and - as I have already said - those who own the WC2 site can really do whatever they want with their site. What I'm issuing here is a call to honesty.
How were we dishonest? No one ever said that no one other than admins would have admin rights. And there was not a Council or other mechanisms in place at the time. Russ was done his work and gone long before anyone other than the three of us was on WC2 and before any of the documents were voted on. There was no need to say anything because he was no longer a factor by the time we had a Council. He shows up in the financials as a supplier and that is where he should show up.
Mendalla