It will be interesting to watch the Joe Lieberman bill as it works its way through congress. If it goes through in its starkest form, as I suspect it, will, then this means the final stage of American liberty has ended.

The bill woul strip the citizenship of any Americans suspected of terrorism. They would lose all rights to freedom, legal representation. They would be iimprisoned at a Guantanmo (there are quite a few of them), and tried, if at all, by a military tribunal. That means torture would be fair ball.