Christmas music is playing in the mall, and Santa's all setup getting wishlists and taking pictures.  Santa was there on September 12.  The Salvation Army had their kickoff today. I realize that it's not the same organization that plans these 2 start dates, but to me the order seems a little backwards.  Personally, I would like to see them either start at the same time or for Santa to show up a little later.  I guess it doesn't really matter, but considering it's only November putting the commercialism ahead of the charity kinds irks me.