Each church in the united church, pays what is called and assessment to the next up body of the church, the presbytery.  The presbytery pays an assessment to the conference.  And the conference as well, often receives a grant from the national church which comes from the mission and service fund, which is collected - voluntarily - from the people who worship in the congregations.

Both tend to agree in the interview that Presbytery is a dangerous place, competitive and not a safe place for ministers

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